06.Oct.2015 Seth Collins — Recruiting Weapon?

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While I’m not a fan of Collin’s passing skills, I do think he could be a benefit on the recruiting trail. For one, players see the hurdle and all that glitz. Sure, many of us see it’s dumb, but so are Oregon’s uniforms. The bottom line is players like that kind of thing. Also, he has the alpha/Joe Cool personality at the QB position. This, too, should attract recruits. The guy does “command the room” or whatever you want to call it [at least when he’s not moping], and I think people, in general, are attracted to that type of personality.

Does anyone know GA’s policy on who can host a recruit? Collins is too immature at this point, and we don’t know much about his off the field life, but hopefully by next year he grows up and can host.

And I don’t think McMaryion has this ability at all, since people will want to go there.

Back to Collins, I heard Mamma Machado discussing him on her podcast. Her and Sprague felt he’s doing well “for a true freshman” (I don’t like this qualifier, but that’s for another post). I’d grade him at a C+. I feel his best traits at this point are his legs and alpha personality. I’d like to see him run all over the upcoming three teams who are all soft, and then get him involved with recruits. So yeah, this is an unorthodox thought, but Collins has value as a recruiting tool, but he has to earn the starting QB job (next year and beyond) for them to cash in on that.

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  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Welcome back Angry.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      BTW. You have to find a replay of the Nebraska / Illini game. The last five minutes may be Riley’s magnun opus in how to fuck up a football game.

    • angry angry says:
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      Thanks, yeah I need to find that. I read all about it, but reading doesn’t show the laughing and gum smacks.

  • wannabeav says:
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    paradigm shift

    • angry angry says:
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      Being away from things gave me time to reflect on the situation. I don’t think it’s a paradigm shift. StS still can’t throw and all that and it’s all consistent with how I feel about his QB skills, but I’m trying to focus on how he can be maximized.

      Also, I watched an interview with him today where he had me completely engaged in his persona, so that played a part in this post. If I’m engaged as a grown man, then his peers will be. Maybe that part is a paradigm shift since his past interviews have been pretty awful.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    The things that are endearing me more and more to Seth are (1) he seems to be pretty tough. His spindly looks led some (me?) to believe that he would be quickly broken in half. That hasn’t happened yet and he has remained pretty healthy. And, (2) he seems to be learning and doesn’t make the same major mistake multiple times. Becoming an accurate passer, with varying degrees of touch is hard. How much of that skill has to be innate and how much Seth can acquire is an unknown to me. Regardless, he’s fun to watch as any play could be magic (or disaster).

  • alex says:
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    I think Collins is better than you’re giving him credit for. Here’s a legitimate impartial perspective:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQluKE1UEAQHYPh.png:large

    CFF – College Football Focus – is a spinoff of Pro Football Focus, the definitive expert in football and player analysis. They’re the folks that look at every player on every play and assign a grade. This is a PAC12 QB ranking through 5 weeks.

    Collins comes in at #7, just below average but above some “bigger” names.

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      Sorry, meant to link the tweet. Here we go:

      https://twitter.com/JB_Long/status/651172769091072000

      Anyway, to say that Collins over his first 4 starts as a true freshman has performed better than half the starters in the conference is pretty encouraging to me.

      Note- this is a pretty comprehensive grade. On a play-by-play basis, they take into account things like O-line deficiencies, receivers not gaining separation, etc.

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        Interesting list, I believe everybody is a Senior listed above him, well maybe not Goff what is he?

        He passes the eyeball test for me. I think he has gotten better with each game, and he has been effective for the most part. The one really positive is that he hasn’t really hurt the team with turnovers. You say you don’t like his passing skills, and he is inconsistent in his passing game I will give you that. However, I would expect that for a true freshmen playing D1 ball. But I think he has thrown the deep ball really well, and he has had some drops, without those his numbers would look even better. I am more concerned with the wideouts than I am at QB at this point. The main point is that he seems to be getting better every week. The challenge will be as teams get more film on him will he be able to adjust to their adjustments?

    • angry angry says:
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      He’s better than a C+ ?
      What’s your grade for him?

      • Tlingit Cannon Tlingit Cannon says:
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        Solid B IMO

      • alex says:
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        I would give him a B grade overall.

        While it may not make sense to give him credit for being a true freshman, I think you have to give him credit for being a first year starter. First year starters rarely perform well in any system…just look at the Ducks. Riley took the first-year effect to a painful extreme, but most programs/QBs are affected by it.

        Taking the first year starter factor into account, I would give him an A. He’s significantly exceeded my expectations as a passer. As others have said, he’s improved every week. And while his accuracy clearly needs work his decision making and judgment have been solid (again, pretty surprising for a freshman- though the running as a plan B surely helps).

      • Ionebeaver Ionebeaver says:
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        I’d say definite B so far, too.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        C+/B- he’s 52 for 95 at a 54.7 completion %. There have been at least 1-2 dropped balls per game by the recivers(like hit them in the hands and dropped). If he get 2 more catches per game he’s sitting at a 63.1% rating. That’s not bad for a true freshman. On the other hand he has throw some in the dirt and thrown behind guys also. But I think he has gotten better since the Michigan game.

  • Bill says:
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    Unless things have really changed from my day, the host depended on how big of a recruit they were. High level recruits got the name players, the rest were hosted by freshman/and or the position group.

    Collins still has upside to his throwing. His arm is much better vs when he came in. And he wasn’t asked to throw a lot in high school nor was he going to all the camps like other qb recruits. Because of that his biggest issue is accuracy. Timing takes a while to develop. I think that he’ll be pretty good by the end of the year. Consistently completing over 60% of his passes.

  • angry angry says:
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    Anyone have thoughts on the actual topic?

    Do you see Collin’s “alpha” personality as a recruiting asset?

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      I don’t know if its an asset. At this point in the programs development I think the coaches are the ones doing most of the selling of the program. SC hasn’t even been in the program a full year. But I do think he has shown leadership and players do follow him, as Storm Woods seems to be a very strong supporter.

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        It could be an asset indirectly if his teammates really believe in him and share their confidence with visiting recruits.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      This ranking has us last, yet a chance to beat AZ. Plus its got Usc #1 and Stanford #3?
      https://trove.com/a/Pac-12-Power-Rankings-Oregon-State-is-last-in-the-Pac-12-and-might-beat-Arizona-this-weekend.e7nNo?utm_campaign=hosted&utm_medium=twitter&ts=1444185976&utm_source=sns&nocrawl=1

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      Anybody going to the Hoops Tip-Off dinner tomorrow?

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Yes, I’ve said before (although not sure which thread) that I think the hurdling is the type of sizzle the program needs right now to get noticed by recruits. A 5 second clip can make a big impression with the younger generation who likes their media in short little vines/tweets/gifs/etc. That play vs Weber still gets replays. Nobody even knows there was a holding penalty on the same play. SC attracts eyeballs, and that will pay off in the short term.
      (On the other hand, special teams snaps that go backwards 48 yards dont help the cause)

      Regarding his personality, it helps to have a qb who exudes confidence. This is one of his greatest assets. Guys will want to play with a guy who doesn’t bow down to anybody.

      Also helps to see a first year player getting a starting role. Shows the coaches will give anybody a shot to play early and often if they earn it.

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      yes. the leaps and twirls give the program a positive vibe. concur that he has really grown in his ability to converse. If he has a big break through game this week, or really at any time this year, it will turbo charge recruiting because some eager folks will want to get in on the ground floor with that.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      It has to be an asset. A QB who is full of energy (seen in the occasional running athleticism) will rub off on the rest, and kids always like high energy stuff. So I think its an asset in team play as well as in recruiting.

    • whatever says:
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      >Do you see Collin’s “alpha” personality as a recruiting asset?

      Maybe for some kids, but I doubt it’s much of a draw. Maybe by the time he’s a junior or senior. Now, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. I do see the fact that he’s playing as a true freshman to be an asset. Early playing time is a big selling point.

  • Ionebeaver Ionebeaver says:
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    He is a leader. Seth is the one that said “We keep playing until the game is over” for the final drive against Stanford. And his teammates nodded in agreement (this according to a Canzano post-game article which I won’t link cuz I can’t stand him, but it’s there). That kind of leadership and having the team buy in to it is important.
    Plus, he is a true freshman, so he’ll learn and grow like all freshmen do. Whether you like that qualifier or not, I think it’s a legitimate one.
    So if he exemplifies confidence and leadership, I can see it being a recruiting asset.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    I think the Alpha Male thing wears off in a hurry. It depends on how much he walks-the-walk, accepts responsibility (whether it’s his or not), focuses on maximizing his teammates, etc.

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      Yeah, I agree with that. If he really is mopey, and doesn’t accept responsibility for his failures, that isn’t going to endear anyone to him in the long run.

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      I don’t think so. Not if he delivers in games and if he isn’t abusive towards others that have less ego. Most people are followers, and want somebody to lead them.

      Has Tom Brady’s alpha personality worn off? Apparently the ball boys think so, but it doesn’t appear it has for teammates or super models.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    As to whether it helps in recruiting, I’m not sure it does. Using an overwrought military example, the guy you would follow into battle is different than the guy at the recruiting office who tries to talk you into joining. But, it’s hard for me to transform my thinking into a premier, 18 year old athlete as that is about as far from me as one could get.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Looks like Anus Solomon is “day-to-day” so that sounds like he will probably play, that may not be bad if he is rusty.

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      You are full of crap about Anus. A rusty Anus is most certainly a bad thing.

  • wannabeav says:
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    Collins seems to have the one thing Angry (correctly) deemed as a deficit with Mannion: “moxie”. One more win and he will have equaled Mannion’s first year total as a RS frosh

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Didn’t Ryan Katz start a few of those non conference games before Mannion was anointed as the next?

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        Lost to and looked like shit against Sac State. Our first FCS debacle.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Here is something that doesn’t help recruiting, attendance across the board is up slightly (1%) but OSU is in the bottom 5 with decreasing numbers
    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/25329428/college-football-attendance-making-rare-increase-early-in-2015

    • angry angry says:
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      Gotta finish the stadium.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        That 5 o’clock Friday start didn’t help either.

      • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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        If you build it, they will come?

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        Okay I admit I have been a proponent to finishing the stadium and it doesn’t warrant that looking at the numbers. I am okay with them waiting on the stadium for now because its a logistic nightmare and the fanbase sucks. However, as long as they continue to build then that is important. So, the Victory Through Valley makes me content. We need to keep showing recruits that we are going to have new things and are growing the program.

        Now the fanbase, the supply is low. There are 6 home games, that is it. You can’t make it down for 6 days out of 365? If you can’t make it can you give them to somebody who can? I just don’t get that. There is one home game in October, you can’t make one night? The game times do suck, but its not like the times are any worse across the country. SEC kickoffs several games around 7pm (4pm-4:30pm pacific) and they don’t have any problem filling stadiums. Of the teams that have seen a decrease 3 were from the Pac12 (ASU, WSU and us).

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          Attendance has been disappointing, but they’ll come back as the team improves. Was a bad time to raise ticket prices. It’s tough to convince somebody they should pay $80 plus fees for a single ticket in the upper levels. There’s no way in hell I’m bringing a family of 4 to a game at that price. any game. If you’re a season ticket holder, it’s much more affordable on a per game basis, but that means you’re counting on most of your ticket purchasers to be willing to buy season tickets.

          I went to the Stanford game with my nephew. Friday game, so I left work early at 3:00. Picked up my nephew in North Portland and headed down to Corvallis. Couldn’t leave any earlier because that’s when he got home from school. Ended up arriving at the stadium during the national anthem. A 4 hour drive from Portland which should last maybe 2 hours on a Saturday is enough to make me want to avoid future Thursday/Friday night games. Could have spent those 4 hours drinking/eating at home and just watched the game on tv.

          Gotta give credit to the Beaverdam though. They really brought a ton of energy to that game and looked good while doing it. I think they said 9000+ students attended that game.

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          Nikegon has also decreased. And don’t forget he CW is down here this year. That might have more to do with it than anything. Two out of three were without students, who could have put us at last year’s numbers alone. Two out of three were on a Friday. Two out of three were not exactly marquis games. Only four conference dates with no CW. Times variable until a couple weeks before each game.

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            The variable times are a big one. Good point. My wife likes to plan an outing with a big group of friends to one game each year, but scheduling an event with a big group is difficult when you dont know if the game is at 1:00 or 7:00 until 2 weeks out.

            If I were a single guy going to games with a buddy, we’d be much more flexible and adapt to the schedule on the fly. OSU needs more than single dudes if they want to fill the stadium.

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            Wish I knew start times much more in advance too. Going to the game on the 24th. Debated on flying but decided on just driving up from sacramento and leaving Friday early with a hard right detour to Prineville to see a buddy. We are hoping for a late game Saturday so we don’t have to wake up at the crack of crack to make it to Corvallis for some tailgating with other buds before the game. Any of you guys going? Tailgate I go to is usually either at Avery or the fairgrounds.

        • angry angry says:
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          I’ve driven up from CA many times to catch a game, so these people who whine about driving 4 hours seem pathetic to me (crap, I just realized Blazer said that, and I like Blazer). Hey, sorry Blazer.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            Ha, no worries. I like criticism. That’s what makes this site work.

            How often do you drive up for games? I’ve only heard you talk about driving up once or twice in the last 4 years.

    • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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      Really think that many people are sour about Riley? Is it fans not buying into the new staff? I live almost 3 hours away and the only home game I’ve missed are when I was in Florida on vacation.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        two Friday home games have not helped the numbers

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          People forget the high school football factor. Is it a loss of 3000 people? Most likely not, but it’s still fans who have to choose between driving to the game after work in terrible traffic, or watching thier kid stand on the sidelines at his football game.

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            Excellent point about the high school football factor. Lot of high school kids aren’t at those Friday night games with their folks. My best friend that I usually go with is an athletic trainer for a high school so he’s only been able to go to one game so far. Meanwhile I don’t have kids so I’ve been able to make the trip from the north coast for all the games so far, including the Michigan one.

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        >Really think that many people are sour about Riley?

        Judging from the people I sit near, that’s definitely not the case. There is a lot of open smack talk about Riley and Banker.

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          Yeah… was on campus a couple weeks ago, and a friend looked at me and said of GA, “Why didn’t we be careful what we were asking for sooner?”

          Apparently when a head coach takes an openly no nonsense approach to his craft people don’t need to be constantly defending him with ambiguous statements like, “Don’t think he’s not competitive,” or, “He’s really a good coach.”

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      It’s the 7:00 + start times, plain and simple. We’ve sucked since the TV deal was struck, therefore we always play at 7:00.

      The Pac 12 has an obligation to fill 3 times slots (half of Pac 12 games) every week that start at 7:00 pm or later. Unless it’s a marquee match up (which if we suck like the last few years it’s just the civil war) chances are it’s a late one.

      If campus was in a major metro area 7:00 games would be easier to do. Even if it was just one or two a year in a rural town it would be fine, but if it’s 4 of 6 like it’s been it’s a total pain in the ass. Driving home at 12:00 am in horrible traffic with a bunch of drunks on the road for 100 miles just plain sucks. Especially once November rolls around and it 37 degrees and raining sideways.

      Myself and at least 10 other season ticket holders I know cancelled because of this, even though we were excited about GA. Not to mention they also threw in a 20% price increase on top of a shitty home schedule.

      If they don’t fix the TV deal, don’t even bother expanding capacity. Consider a remodel just for asethetics adding luxury boxes or something. Even Autzen (Most “Inflated” sell outs, loudest stadium, blah blah blah) empties out a halftime unless they’re close to losing.

      • Bob says:
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        You are exactly right in my case. I did not renew my three season tickets this year because of all the late starts last season. This year it’s single games, and only during the daylight.

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          Speaking of single games, I most like cant make it to the UCLA or UW games, so if anybody wants to pay season ticket face value rather than box office single game prices to either game, let me know. 2 tickets in Sec 225, row 19.

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      A whole bunch of things impact the numbers. We have had one of the top five increases here in Minnesota and that was with a huge bump in ticket prices that had the fans bitching all offseason.
      The biggest factor was the success of last year and the perceived upward trajectory of the program.
      The second was a great home schedule with an opening game with the preseason # 2 team TCU and most of our big rivals playing at home.
      I suspect that if GA can show some hope by pulling off an upset or two, the numbers will skew upward even with all the noted handicaps.

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    Only a C+, angry? He’s gotta be an A for AIR COLLINS!!!

    He’s better than freshmannion. That season was a disaster

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      Katz should have played that year. Bad decision…even though a ton of people on the board supported it.

  • SalemBeav says:
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    I have been pleased with SC’s improvement and the things he brings ( mobility ). But I would have to disagree with comparisons to Mannion’s first year. He had Langsdorf and Riley as coaches. How many drives in his tenure were stalled by false starts ( remember Remmers )? I don’t think we had one false start against Stanford?? I think SC excites the fan base with his runs and that may translate into motivating recruits. I know we lost to Stanford, but I enjoyed it more than any game in years. Now that we are outside observers and we don’t have a “love my school” connection, looking at Nebraska. How much did Mannion and his team mates get robbed by the coaching? I think the year we went to the Alamo bowl should have been 12-1, but for Riley, Langsdorf and Banker. Was there ever a short of the three stooges coaching a Div 1A football team?

  • Beavlover69 says:
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    I think the new-age offensive system has as much to do with the uptick in recruiting as Collins’ “Wow” plays. Kids just want to play in the spread. It’s a lot easier to pick up which leads to earlier playing time and you have the opportunity to make bigger, more exciting plays in space which leads to more individual exposure. Collins impressing as a freshman also shows recruits that the future is bright and it also shows that the coaches are willing to put their money where their mouths are with regards to playing young players.

    • marcodg marcodg says:
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      The uptick has been greater on defense where Sitake appears to have a lot of respect.

  • dwill03 dwill03 says:
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    Collins may help, but in reality I think it’s 99% the staff. They’re a young, energetic, passionate and engaging and they really seem to connect with recruits.

    If you watch the practice film, this staff makes football look like a lot of fun. Riley’s practices were boring as shit.

    Watch any big defensive replay (Saulo int. return for td) the way Sitake jumps around and chest bumps/high fives makes me want to suit up and play for him.

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      Looking forward to seeing you on the field next year. DT or LB I hope?

      • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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        Size of a Corner or Small safety, Heart of a Line Backer, Speed, athleticism and somatotype of an Offensive Lineman. Where can they use me? I’m ready to hit someone coach!

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          Long snapper?

        • ObjCritic says:
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          You sound like the kind of diamond-in-the-rough that Riley and Banker might want to coach up into a neat story….

          Tweet them, maybe you’ll get an offer.

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    https://zonazealots.com/2015/10/06/arizona-football-everything-you-need-to-know-about-oregon-state/

    Looks like Arizona thinks were overconfident.

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      You just linked a piece where the first paragraph ends with the author sourcing another author for a fact she can look up herself in about 30 seconds. In fact, it probably takes less time to just look it up and say it than it does to hyperlink text and extend your sentence… one that goes nowhere and is meaningless other than to take up space.

      Let’s see… frosh miss mommy. Bring back the parody of a haka nobody on our team had any cultural connection to. Zony is missing backers who did not much when they were in. Stanford is Stanford. SC is confident (there it is). Anu might play… or might not.

      Gina’s stats… again… could be found and reported instead of being second hand. Gary’s reporting. SC again. Villy. Ignorant slaps at OSU. Doesn’t know what “Go Beavs!” means.

      Maybe she should try “focussing” on Pac football before writing another “article.” In the end, it’s college football. Anyone can win depending on more than weather. As fluff pieces go, this one sucks.

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        I was just linking it exactly because of that. They think were cocky but they’re just ignorant.

  • Beav in TX says:
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    I liked the Storm Woods quote about him: “The kid just demands greatness.”

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    After a few games, one of the things that has surprised me about SC is how long he tries to extend plays before he takes off and runs. In his HS film, as with most young, speedy QB’s, he scrambles as soon as he sees his first option covered.

    So far this year, he seems much more patient when he leaves the pocket. He’s probably left some rushing yards on the table, but it shows me he’s responding to coaching.

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      Very evident in Stanford game, his eyes were mostly down field the whole game and he made some nice throws.

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      Yes. His efficiency increased because he was peeling along the LoS to extend plays. That was nice to see.

      Zony has been decimated through the air and are only slightly better against the run. One of the things their “analysts” are keying on is that we’re last in Pass O in the Pac. But they are ignoring the improvements being made. Yes, Stanford ran over us. But the difference in our D was we were trying to crash and collapse the edges instead of breaking around them. We couldn’t do it. But it made the game more of a grind. Zony tried breaking around the edges, and SU just opened that hole time after time for big gashes.

      If our backs are patient off tackle, they could be looking down DBs on the second level all day. But what needs to happen most is SC finding his third read instead of looking two and dumping or evacuating the pocket. When he finds his TEs, he can break a game open.

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        I’m not confident our OL is good enough to open the holes for him to get there.

  • Beaverfan5 Beaverfan5 says:
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    Saw on the Olive practice report that Collins and Clute got into a scuffle and had to be split up.

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      He kept hurdling Clute.

    • Numbers says:
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      Good, hopefully Collins is getting on the ass of underperformers from Riley era.

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        Figuratively, of course.

      • Jack says:
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        Clute’s been playing well. He, for one, has seemingly taken his role in Baldwin’s system with effort. Smith has been the one standing around looking for something to do most often. And that’s with him being out for half our games.

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      Collins tea bagged Clute and Clute got pissed. It’s all good now.

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    9999https://twitter.com/7era_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw About Shurod Thompson who said he could see himself at OSU for four years even if football didn’t work out. Perhaps it’s only a media statement but I’m impressed.

  • Jack says:
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    OT… WOO HOO!!!!
    OSU making all our lives better!
    http://phys.org/news/2015-10-discovery-battery-overturns-decades-false.html

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    Great news for the Energizer Bunny. JB

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      And Borat’s homeland. An economic boom is coming.
      National Anthem Of Kazakhstan (With Lyrics) – YouTube
      Video for potassium and Borat? 1:58
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq8y_Wkrs3c
      Sep 19, 2009 – Uploaded by tnicholl22
      Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium. … and they are horrible compared to Borat who …

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    So I don’t get chided by Angry: I think Collins is a recruiting asset overall; B grade for a freshman QB (which I think is relevant in a “growth” year for the program).

    Off topic: A couple of comments from Utah fans on Sitake versus the new D coordinator, Pease.
    http://www.blocku.com/2015/10/6/9460017/utah-opponent-preview-cals-offense#331733746

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    Don’t think I’ll get chided by angry, here is another aspect of recruiting. The usual suspects among the sports scribe tribe won’t likely put much stock in this, just sayin’.

    Corvallis #3 in Top 20 College Town study (we don’t need no stinkin’ airport!):
    https://www.aier.org/cdi-top-20-college-towns-3-corvallis-or

    • Bill says:
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      Some kids prefer the big cities. Some like the small town atmosphere. It’s a wash in recruiting. I usually advise kids to take a long look at college towns. It’s one time in their lives where they will be surrounded by people their own age everywhere they go in town. Big cities can wait until after school.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Don’t get too excited about the ranking. They rated Ames, IA #2.

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    When will they announce the CU game start time?

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      Guessing early next week as they tend to announce about 2 weeks prior.

    • Bill says:
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      Monday is when they’ll announce. I’m guessing a day game because Utah is playing USC that weekend and fox is has an open 4:30pm slot.

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    the latest news from Huskerville: seems the players and their former coaches are talking to one another. man, this got ugly fast.

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    GA on Canzano today. It’s interesting if you have a few minutes to kill. Talks a little about recruiting numbers and how our mix of Offensive vs Defensive scholarships is weighted too heavily toward the offensive side, and they need to get that back in balance.

    https://soundcloud.com/kxtg-the-bald-faced-truth/bft-interview-gary-andersen

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    How long til Riley starts talking about how his team just needs to find their identity?

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Apparently their identity is they’re not buying into Bike Smiley

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      The trick of that is, and what he doesnt seem to understand, is that they have adopted an identity — of his bumbling, disassociated nature. I believe the coach sets the identity. If they adopt another, of a more intense, focussed nature, it is to their independent credit. Good luck on that, NU….

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      That player (Alex Lewis?) who told the Nebraska fans “we suck” already found it. Riley might want to talk to him

      Bigger screw you to Oregon State by Riley:
      Saying this year’s Husker team is better than any of his OSU teams? Or pitching Banker for HC on his way out?

      I’m going with the Banker thing, but the other comment was pretty bad.

      Imagine if OSU had hired Banker. Riley ditches a big piece of dead weight and is maybe 4-1 or 5-0 right now. Everyone says how great Riley is at a big time program (lol) like Nebraska and that Corvallis was holding him back. Meanwhile, this is reinforced by Banker being winless right now… But he was part of Respected Riley’s crew, so it’s just a reflection of how hard it is to win here.

      So messed up!

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    Jesus Christ on ice skates: you’re the visiting team, ir’d going to be hot, we ear all ehite;

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/10/oregon_state_beavers_to_wear_b.html#incart_river_mobileshort

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    I try to move on and not watch the Nebraska train wreck, but it just gets better every week. Now they’re so po’d about last weeks game, enough so that they printed the word “dadgummed” on a t-shirt:
    http://www.cornnation.com/2015/10/7/9476289/introducing-the-run-the-dadgummed-ball-t-shirt

    Many of their fans seem to be a full outrage, and they’re getting push back from the ‘Riley won’t get fired in the next two to three years so lets get used to it’ people. The latter crowd then uses all sorts of rationalizations and blame, either of the players or Pellini. What’s missing are the people who say ‘we can’t do better’ and ‘be careful what you wish for’ that kept Riley around for an extra 5 years at OSU, so they got that going for ’em!

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      Lots of tweets all saying the same thing…Run The Ball!!!!

      We would harp week after week here the last couple seasons and it made little difference. T-shirt seems like a smarter way to voice the displeasure and maybe get a few more runs called. No doubt Riley will see many of those shirts on his next walk into Memorial Stadium.

    • whatever says:
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      > ‘Riley won’t get fired in the next two to three years so lets get used to it’

      I guess you’re saying that because a lot of OSU people said similar things due to the fact that we don’t have any money. And those people were right, Riley wasn’t going to be fired…and he wasn’t. Fortunately, we were given a reprieve by him bitching out on us for the second time, but make no mistake about it, we couldn’t afford to fire him because we can only play so many bodybag payday games per year like the one off trips to Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, etc, etc. Each of those games paid a fair chunk of change to get rid of three of our shittiest coaches over the last decade: Craig Robinson, Lavonda Wagner and Jay John. To say that we could have just waved a magic wand and created $7 or $8 million to buyout Riley and to say that that’s somehow fans being delusional or that it’s a rationalization…I disagree.

      Of course, once it becomes obvious that he’s a complete failure in Nebraska, they’ll get rid of him because they have a budget that dwarfs ours.

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        Just suffered through the entire Illinois v bigFred game posted above. Wow, what a steaming pile of a game coached by the good ol’ boys. So thankful we have turned the corner. The melt down is imminent.

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          “The melt down is imminent”

          It’s already started. It should burst into flames and start spiraling out if control on Saturday in Nebraska.

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            You are correct. Should have have written ‘escalating’. It is interesting to observe from afar. Less frustrating and more pleasant.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            I like to call it “sick pleasure”. I just can’t let it go, it keeps me warm at night. I was following the Illinois game on espn gamecast. After halftime I forgot about it, until about halfway thru the 4th quater. As soon as I saw the score I knew he’d give it the ol’ Riley special. I couldn’t stop laughing.

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            Never heard of a signature loss, but man was that one. Something for Riles to remember in a couple of years in San Antone.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        true to an extent. But, they’re still paying Pelini to go away. And in the long run if Saint Bikey doesn’t get another job, they’ll have to pay him over 8 million to go away. Deep pockets or not, that’s a big chunk. I seriously doubt they shit can him after just one season.

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        You’re also forgetting that Saint Bikey is Eichorst’s guy. He became AD in 2012. Pelini was not “his guy”. I expect Eichorst will defend Saint Bikey for the time being.

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        Whatever, I was saying that there’s Nebraska fans saying he won’t get fired this year because of the cost. This is just what I’ve picked up from reading different fan forums. My guess is that Riley stays after this year, but Banker and Langs go.

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          Maybe Eichorst tells Dadgumm Riles to jettison Hand Jive or the Kidney Kid and Riles bails on the job completely instead, that’s a familiar refrain.

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          What about Yosemite Cav?

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    Is there a new episode of the Drive tonight? I’m just seeing the second episode being aired tonight…

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      I don’t see it in the listings or on the PAC 12 Now app so no episode I guess 🙁

      • OrangeFlush OrangeFlush says:
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        They had a bye week, so they didn’t do an episode this week.

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      pac-12 fb page says new episode next week

  • Corey smith says:
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    Welcome to Tucson. How many beavs are coming down? Crush the cats and Hansen their sportswriter who called the Beavers the worst football program in the pac12 in his article on tues.

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      Hey Corey, any input on the decision to wear black helmets? Forecast for some wind and about 90 at game time, how do you expect that to translate to actual field conditions? Breeze gonna cool guys down a bit??

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        The black iniforms should be put in the homecoming bonfire. Perhaps the ugliest uniform in all CFB.
        Nike’s joke on OSU.

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          No, the bra uni’s were the biggest joke in all of CFB

  • Tlingit Cannon Tlingit Cannon says:
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    Tell Hansen to look in da mirror

  • Ayy Lmao says:
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    It’s no question that Anus will probably start Saturday.

    Rich said “If he’s cleared he will start”

  • World Starr Wildcat says:
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    Outsider opinion but the beavers still have a ways to go. Look at Washington State and their past 30 year record. It is hard to imagine much better for Oregon State.

    We’ve had bad coaches too but I see a ton of similarities between Andersen style and Mike Stoops. The quotes are almost word for word. I’m definitely not the first and won’t be the last to draw this conclusion.

    Riley was an old bean bag chair that had beer spilled on it and your buddy slept on it for a month after visiting rural Colombia and swearing off showers.

    Seems like recruiting could still be a box of dicks for a while, and they’re plenty of holes to fill. Good luck in the game because you sewer rats will need it!

    • Numbers says:
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      I wish you had something of substance to say. I enjoy hearing from the other side. Andersen/Barney Rubble comparison isn’t close. Try again. How about telling us something more precise about how the smellycats supposedly overmatch the Beavs on the field?

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        Barney had never been a HC before. GA does have a track record. I miss Barney going ape shit
        on the sidelines. He was very entertaining.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      when was the last time the mild kittens beat OSU in Tucson? Yeah, that’s what I thought

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      Remind me what is so bad about the 30 year track record of wsu? A handful of rose bowls isn’t terrible. More than Arizona has had in their history (ie zero).

    • Tlingit Cannon Tlingit Cannon says:
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      6 in a row at your place bud

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        Going back to the 2000 season. In fact this game will be played one day shy of 15 years on the dot since ‘Zona has beaten OSU in thier house . OSU is 12-2 against ‘Zona since 1999. That.is.crazy.

        • Jack says:
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          I feel like we’re jinxing ourselves with that stat. Living in the past doesn’t help tomorrow.

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            True..but I didn’t know it was that epic of a run. That’s the only reason I posted it. I think that might be the best run of wins against any pac12 team in that time frame. I’ll go take a look.

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            Yup 12-4 vs Cal and 10-5 vs WSU. Same time frame.

          • Beav in TX says:
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            What does the success of Riley teams have anything to do with this team?

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            I only posted as an interesting stat, that’s it. I’m not trying to read into it in any way, other then you would have thought our best run in that time frame would have been Cal or WSU. And you are right, the beavs need to wash the stink of Rileys past off and move forward.

    • Jack says:
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      I would counter point for point, except there’s not one point to counter which isn’t so obviously wrong that countering would be a waste of time.

      Good luck watching the Rose Bowl from home… again… and forever.

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      +1 for bean bag chair Riley, even if the rest of your post is full of crap

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