25.Jan.2016 Where are all the Seth Collins Backers?

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It’s lame they all went into hiding. At least stand up and admit you were way way wrong. All the “he played great for a freshman QB” talk, making up excuses for his egotistical behavior and interviews, and essentially calling me a liar when I heard from a good source he slammed his protein shake down and walked out of a post-practice interview.

Saw this coming a while ago. Oct 22nd post:

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Sounds about right.

But I’m not confident Collins will remain engaged. More likely he’ll slam his protein shake again, pout, and look to transfer.

How did I know this? I didn’t 100%, but all the cues pointed to that reality.

I have a lot of other [hard-to-stomach/reality based] predictions, so if you have a specific field or question lay it on me and thank me later!

 

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  • wannabeav says:
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    check out Andy Panda’s latest (I found it on OneClick/Beavers). Too old to provide a link. sorry. Interesting stuff, especially the analysis on Mike Parker

    • angry angry says:
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      What did it say? I don’t see anything about Mike Parker when I googgle Andy Panda.

      • wannabeav says:
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        sorry. Andy is the principal columnist at buildingthedam.com. Google will find that

        • angry angry says:
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          Found it. Here’s the link: http://www.buildingthedam.com/2016/1/25/10823710/breaking-down-a-long-long-rebuild

          Yes, Parker sucks.

          • wannabeav says:
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            actually, I think he’s a pretty good baseball announcer, though his funks when things aren’t going well for the beavs are troublesome.

          • angry angry says:
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            Those funks make him unbearable. Jim Wilson is good. Parker is awful. They should give Wilson the job and a lot more money. He deserves it.

          • helmsley says:
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            Can’t abide Mike Parker – if I have occasion to tune into a game on the radio, I go to the opposing team’s announcer – 90% of the time they sound much more professional and, especially if the Beavs are winning, it’s fun to hear what the opposition is saying.

          • BusterBeaver says:
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            At least he can hold down a job.

            Unlike some people…

          • Manchumba says:
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            Parker is paid by OSU and knows he can’t be completely objective. He often won’t comment on issues his partner John Warren will. If you want objective listen to duck stations in Portland

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Holy crap!!!

            Leave it to a Rivals Anon Troll (heretofore called RAT) to prove what they think always.

            Indiscriminate stupidity is funny that way. It shows who is the buster and who is the bust.

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Did you study human psychology Angry?
    Just seems like you’re pretty intuitive when it comes to predicting results based on people’s behavior.
    Maybe change site to IntuitiveBeav.com

    • angry angry says:
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      I read a few papers online about psychology over the years, but usually when I have a theory, just to see if their discipline backs it up or ever thought about it. Like BIRGing…I could spot it, so I had to investigate if it was a real thing. In fact, there is BIRGing going on with Seth Collins. Everyone is distancing themselves from it without quite saying, “we didn’t want him anyway”, because that would be obvious sour grapes. Nobody wants to admit I was right, because there’s an entire faction that shows up here just to prove I’m wrong. Thus the quiet as a mouse thread about a huge event.

      I’m not sure where the intuition comes from. As I kid I was very quiet and observed more than talked, and that probably is true to this day and the senses just get refined from it.

      But on the flipside, I feel everyone should see what is coming. There were obvious clues. So part of it is also my willingness to talk about bad things, whereas most people just want to twist things to make them good, because that feels better.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Are there any updates re Marcus McMaryion leaving too?

  • angry angry says:
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    Apparently Seth Collins teammates didn’t like him, either. SC pointed the finger at other players [for his mistakes?].

    GA gave him way too much time.

  • Moving on says:
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    He is an explosive threat when the ball is in his hands as a RB/WR. Never will be a legit QB with his arm. Sad to see him leaving if he was going to play ” Slash ” role and buy into team concept. Happy he is leaving if he wanted to stay at QB. Went to a few practices during the year and the can not make all the throws. Leadership skills are a -10 in my book, it’s all about ” Seth The Great “. Not well liked in Locker Room with his ME attitude. I’m glad Andersen let him sit those 4 games, he was lucky to be on the bus to the Civil War…

    Next man up ” Respect the Process ” …

    • angry angry says:
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      GA cleaned it up fast, but gave him too long a leash at QB. I wonder if that was so GA can defend himself on the recruiting trail, because you know SC and his dad are going to be bashing OSU, and other coaches will say GA doesn’t give QBs a fair shot…

      • cj cj says:
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        Seems like they are already doing some bashing with dad’s comment in the Tribune about the boy “having no help” or some words like that.

        I was excited about the possibility of Seth being the “slash” player. I thought playing that role might make him a “star” player. At least and elite player.

        Maybe dad should let him fend for himself…instead of living through him.

  • Beavlover69 says:
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    Congratulations you hated a player from the moment he arrived on campus, said a million different things about him, flip flopped numerous times on things you had said, and then we’re right about one of em. I’m proud of you man. What happened with that 5 win prediction though? Or what about how Datrin Guyton was gonna be a star? Where are the blog posts about those?

    And for the record a lot of Collins backers fought you on many things but I don’t remember any of them saying you’d be wrong about him transferring. The QB situation was handled about as confusing and poorly as possible this year. You might remember Nick Mitchell and Del Rio also transferred? The numbers say that predicting a QB would transfer from the Beavs was actually the safe bet this year.

    I’m glad you are all stoked that he’s gone. I can’t wait until we get to burn Moran and/or Strucks redshirts because the coaching staff alienated 60% of the QBs on the team (so far). Should be fun to watch.

    My stance has always been that he was the best QB of the shitty ones we had available this year. I still stand by that. But yeah man you did great I’m proud of ya 🙂

    • angry angry says:
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      What happened with that 5 win prediction though? Or what about how Datrin Guyton was gonna be a star? Where are the blog posts about those?

      I already addressed the 5 wins. Never made a blog post that Guyton would be a star, to my knowledge, but was high on him. He looked great and on his way to that, then messed up. Based on his twitter feed, he looks to have mental problems, so that might prevent him from reaching potential. But he could be an NFL WR if he wants to be one.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      Not sure how any WR is supposed to be a star without a QB that is capable of passing them the ball.

      • Beavlover69 says:
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        So he gets a pass for being kicked off the team because the QB was bad?

        • Jack Jack says:
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          He didn’t get a pass for that. Where are you getting that pile?

  • Beav11 says:
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    Can we cool it on the masturposts?

    Congrats angry, you made a prediction that was pretty obvious at the time. Given his desire to play QB (why he was going to SJSU prior to our offer) and our 2016 QB outlook (Garretson), his transfer seemed likely and it happened.

    BTW – his push to a hybrid/diminished role and subsequent transfer does not, in any way, validate your opinions on McMaryion (completely and utterly wrong, terribly, terribly so) vs. Collins. It speaks to the coaching staff’s support of Garretson in 2016.

  • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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    Should of bought a powerball ticket Angry! Oh wait those are much worse odds than saying if SC will transfer or not. Pretty sure that gets you a 50% shot at getting it right or not angry and guess what you got it right. Just like beavlover said most of us were not saying that SC was the best QB in the world but the best option OSU had last year. You tried to claim some GA conspiracy about how he was only putting in Collins because of favoritism. Then when Collins got injured and Mitchell took over we all saw what GA was seeing in practice. Honestly angry it wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to predict this one. The only reason he came to OSU is to play QB, he’s stated this many times. After the civil war, it was pretty clear he wouldn’t play QB here. This is not a huge surprise here. By the way angry as far as psychology goes if you think you can diagnose a 18 year old person just by watching a handful of interviews and watching body language, you really are an idiot.

  • Angry@angry says:
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    Angry is a self righteous idiot. Doesn’t make a new thread for days. Then makes a new one to pat himself on the back.

    • angry angry says:
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      Translation of all these posts: let’s take it out on angry that we bought into SC.
      Figures you losers wouldn’t own up.

      • Angry@angry says:
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        Own up to what? It’s been pretty clear I liked SC more than McMaryion or Mitchell. I still believe that. And what makes you an idiot is all the pats on the back you give yourself. Collins is immature. It isn’t all that surprising an immature kid, who just had his own kid, would transfer when he gets demoted.

      • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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        Lol… Honestly I am not heartbroken about SC Angry or I would have commented about it earlier. My post was purely reactional after reading your ignorant thread. What’s entertaining is Angry can sometimes can be so right on the money about things, than other times he is in outer space. Right now it’s the latter!

      • Beavlover69 says:
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        I don’t know what I’m supposed to own up to? I can’t remember anyone calling you and idiot for saying he would probably transfer. Chuckle and Beav11 pretty much hit the nail on the head

      • Cake says:
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        >bought into SC.

        I would argue that few, if any, Beavers fans fully bought into Seth Collins at QB. Bought into the concept that he was the best option at QB last year? Yes. Bought into him as a Swiss Army knife going forward? Definitely.

        But as a QB? Not really.

      • angry angry says:
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        Three blind squirrels searching for an acorn.

  • osbeavs says:
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    I will own up on SC, at least hoping that he would be good. I definitely saw flaws this year and agree with angry about thise flaws. I figured flaws were acceptable this year as the talent just wasn’t there on this roster. This was the perfect time for growing pains. Yes he seems to act childish but the flips side of all that is fire and passion which didn’t exist on prior Riley teams.

    Personally, I was excited about his move to his new position. I thought there was real potential to really improve this team as an all around playmaker with hopefully some maturity coming (he is only 18, most 18 year olds are punks). If he didn’t want to be a part of this roster that is okay with me as he has potential to be a cancer. IMO he was an extremes guy, either going to be extremely good or bad for this roster and he swung to bad we will move on. Disappointing sure but measured expectations was always in order.

    • angry angry says:
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      Good job, OSbeavs. Man up!
      He actually had a chance to be good in that new slash position, but SC, being a batshit crazy puppet whose dad pulls the strings, of course couldn’t see it or accept it. I heard he fathered a kid, too, but is there any truth to that? What is funny is that people bashed my GF for her opinion that he looked like the type of guy who would sleep with a player’s girlfriend, yet we hear all his teammates hate him and he has a kid. I told her that, and she said, “the mother is probably one of the players girlfriends” hahah. The blind squirrels owe her an apology, too.

  • Homefry Homefry says:
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    It’s not always about who is right or wrong. A humble winner is appreciated by me. Your opinions and predictions were correct, just don’t go all “AngrytheGreat” now.

    • Beavlover69 says:
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      Reminds me of a quote from the movie “The Other Guys”:

      “Shake your dicks boys this pissing contest is over!”

    • angry angry says:
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      I like humility and would remain that way, but what I don’t like is the guys bashing me never own up. Constantly disappear when it’s time to pay up.

      • Angry@angry says:
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        I’m right here dick. Own up to what? I already asked you that. Pay up? Did we make a bet?

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          how do you know his name is Richard?

          Own up to maybe that you were wrong? It’s what real men do when they’re wrong

          • Angry@angry says:
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            Wrong about what? I never said Seth was anything but better than Mitchell and McMaryion. I still believe that.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Well considering you also wrote that Marcus McMaryion would never start a game at Oregon St, I’d say you got your opinion wrong. But you also never owned up to being wrong on that one either

          • Angry@angry says:
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            Okay he started what… One or two? And holy smokes he lit it up too. My call of him never starting was a little over the top. But, he’s never gonna be the guy at OSU. We all know that. So I was wrong that he was the starter (in near emergency situation). I still see Collins as better. Atleast in potential. And that’s what this season was supposed to be about…. Let the young kids play and see who has potential for development.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            see was that so hard to admit????

            “Okay he started what… One or two? And holy smokes he lit it up too”

            He has as many Pac-12 wins as Collins and Mitchell did. Any of the three could’ve started the Weber and SJSU games and the result is still the same.

            “But, he’s never gonna be the guy at OSU”

            Agreed

            “I still see Collins as better. At least in potential. And that’s what this season was supposed to be about”

            GA would disagree with that statement

            “Let the young kids play and see who has potential for development”

            GA would disagree with that too. That’s what the offseason, practice and spring ball is for. He wants the best 11 guys at their positions out there in games. Now that being said if one or more of those 11 guys has an attitude problem or is me first, well guess what? That individual probably isn’t going to play

          • Angry@angry says:
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            Thanks whiskey for saying all that and nothing at the same time.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            I didn’t say anything. I typed it. What information one hears is really up to that individual. Thanks for letting me put my thoughts inside you

    • Ripper Ripper says:
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      Well said.

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      It is like he is turning into the Seth Collins of blogging.

  • Beavlover69 says:
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    At the risk of being civil, is anyone else seriously concerned about the lack of QB depth? We’re basically one-deep on the depth chart with Pac-12 level QBs and that one guy hasn’t even played a snap yet. McM got a lot of love as the “anti-Seth Collins” but with Collins gone I think the consensus will soon be that he’s not a good QB.

    And I don’t even want to think about the calamity if both those guys get hurt.

    • angry angry says:
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      There’s a rumor McM is transferring, too. Maybe that dies down now that SC is gone.

      I’m nervous about it. Made a post about it a few weeks ago…

  • blackhillsbeav says:
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    You guys are being way too tough on Angry. He could see the writing on the wall, and said so–and I’ve found that his opinions are well thought out and have information behind them. You should note that he wasn’t bashing SC on the new and innovative slash role–pretty much the opposite.

    My own feeling is that, though comments about stardom or even competence for SC at quarterback were way too early, stardom did seem to be in his future with the Beavs with his new role. It’s really too bad he didn’t see the opportunities this coaching staff laid golden at his feet. Sports Illustrated attention, path to the NFL, in my opinion. Yes, I think that…and I still realized, along with Angry, that SC sucked as a quarterback because real quarterbacks share the ball and concentrate on getting first downs.

    And yeah, that makes McMariyon the better choice for the team this past year.

  • Jim says:
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    You did seem to have Collins pretty much pegged from the beginning. You also dredged up 3M from the bottom of the depth chart and he turned out to perhaps be the best option, all things considered. Kudos on both of those prognostications.

    Too bad things did not work out for him at OSU, as a play-maker would be very valuable next season.

  • Bill says:
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    Posted this in the other thread but this one is on the coaches.

    They handled Collins wrong from the instant they started recruiting him. They promised him his dream of pplaying QB when it was clear he would need a lot of work to be a good QB. They knew of his transferring high schools. They knew his Dad and his thoughts on his son.

    They gave him more than what he earned on the field. They made him the starting QB and stood behind him. Then they pulled him in the middle of a game when it was clear he wasn’t progressing like they thought. Then demoted him. Then tried to salvage the situation with a slash position knowing that’s not what they had been promising him for the past year.

    The coaches took a big chance and it blew up in their faces. You just hope the coaches have learned from their mistakes. The question now is, have they over promised the current incoming recruits?

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      There’s not much to over promise at this point, at least concerning the QB position; frankly, the depth chart for QBs is only stacked two deep.

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      and i responded that I disagreed with you and still do.

      ” Then they pulled him in the middle of a game when it was clear he wasn’t progressing like they thought. Then demoted him.”

      And you know this to be true how? So it’s not possible he had an attitude problem? And that was the reason he was benched?

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        It’s the most likely answer. The game against Colorado. In fact, they pulled Collins in the middle of a series in the third quarter. It was clear he wasn’t injured. They were only down 3 points at the time. Next time we saw him was CW. The only way I see him getting pulled for attitude in the middle of a series is that he was deliberately calling the wrong plays. And if he did have a bad attitude, the coaches were rewarding him for it by starting him for the first 6 games.

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      Whoops, Bill, I accidentally gave you a minus. Only just figured out how these plus-minus deals work.

      I agree completely that the coaches seem to have overpromised. That would explain having to bring in a special coach midseason…they needed validation for the realization they’d already come to.

      Really, really too bad, though, that SC doesn’t see the golden carpet laid out for him, once the coaches started thinking creatively. Can he reverse his decision–which would be an impressive first step to telling Dad to take a backseat?

  • 2002 says:
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    Congratulations on running Seth Collins out of town! Mission Accomplished!

    It was funny I never heard anything about his “attitude problem” except from some butthurt Marcus McMaryion fans on this website.

    We would have lost the Civil War by 40 without Seth. He’ll be good where he turns up. Ironically the one team that could really use him next year is the quackers.

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      “Congratulations on running Seth Collins out of town! Mission Accomplished!”

      Seth left on his own accord. Probably because it’s well known he wants to play quarterback (or daddy wants him to play QB. You pick). If Seth left because of what some folks wrote on an internet blog, well, good luck in life.

      “It was funny I never heard anything about his “attitude problem” except from some butthurt Marcus McMaryion fans on this website.”

      Maybe you should try researching that some more.

      “He’ll be good where he turns up.”

      Maybe if that transfer is to an FCS or non power 5 conference school

  • Beavlover69 says:
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    For the record these were my thoughts preseason on the QBs:

    “Beavlover69 says:
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    I think Collins has the most talent and talent should play especially since this is most definitely a rebuilding season. I love the cockiness and see that as more of a positive to a certain extent (look at the 3 previous heisman winners before Mariota) and even see a bit of Cam Newton in his game. Obviously the cockiness has to be reigned in so it doesn’t get out of hand and you can’t play that reckless when you weigh 185 lbs (What’s up RG III) but the ceiling seems to be highest with Collins and since this year is more about development than wins, I think he’s the man.

    That being said, I think that
    a. Everyone will play. None of them can really throw so defenses will eventually pin their ears back and hit the crap out of all of them so we’ll actually get to see who’s best instead of just speculate and

    b. Garrettson and the incoming frosh Moran are probably better than all 3 of these guys anyways so, barring any unforeseen (and welcome) development, we’ll likely be right back here next fall.”

    I will concede that my Cam Newton comparison turned out to miss the mark entirely (putting it mildly) but other than that I stand by what I said. Especially point b.

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    Angry… Just a thought: you should taking your gift of clairvoyance and turning it into a money-making endeavour. Rather than strumming your guitar, concocting recipes for soap and fooling around with Angrybeavs.com you could be raking it in!!

    Just think what the Eagles would have paid to avoid the Chip Kelly flame-out, or in an even simpler application consider stock picking or sports betting. JB

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      True, and I could have told you you were going to be fired the day before so you could have quit instead…though, then you couldn’t have collected unemployment…let me know which you prefer next time!

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    Its disappointing in the fact that he was our biggest offensive weapon. And insurance for the other qbs. I dont like loxker room cancers they can kill a team. i thought we would have beaten colorado if he played that whole game. Lets just hope we have a healthy season next year. This qb situation could really set back this rebuild. At least our o line pass protected well this last season (probably partly because of seths athleticism) but should play well next season.

  • angry angry says:
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    Any truth to the rumblings that Seth fathered a kid?

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      The QB is leaving because he recently became a father.
      He is also an asshole and won’t be missed by many.

      Only mention I saw.

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      I think I’ve seen 1 mention here, 1 mention on olive, and 1 on rivals. Several rivals posters with “my daughters a current student, says Seth is an asshole” etc… But nothing substantiated

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      If Seth the Great is so great, why’d he not pull out in time?

  • mckalk says:
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    I can’t be the only one who thought that Collins had weird, immature mannerisms (even for an 18 year old) and was semi-inarticulate in interviews. Being the paranoid asshole that I am, I also think the injury was fake or not that serious while they worked out whether Collins could get a grip mentally.

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      Well it the rumor is someone just had his kid (and his twitter photo somewhat confirms that). If true, that can explain his bizarre behavior and crappy play a bit more. Can’t imagine being 18 with a kid and also being a student athlete/freshman QB. It’s his fault, obviously, for being an idiot, but still a rough situation. Maybe he’s transferring to have a year off and be around family etc. Though, his dad’s parting shots are lame and imply it’s not that. Oh well, next man up.

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      Collins is 20 years old by the way. Didn’t know that he was held back a year.

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        He flunked the contraception portion of his sex ed class. Transferred to another class.

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        That kind of makes his behavior even more inexcusable, although BYU seems to have it’s share of 26 year olds who act like assholes on the field of play in more than one sport.

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    Angry I’m intrested in knowing were you heard he was not liked by other players? Is it a guess or did you get first hand info? If true, along with the blow up at the post practice presser, his pouting about not playing QB aND daddy issues, his cancer rating now goes to a stage 4. Good riddance.
    And your quote about Collins seemed tounge-and-cheek and not really a definitive statement. I think if you posted the same statement in several threads it would come off as honest to goodness statement.

    • angry angry says:
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      I heard it (he wasn’t liked) from a media member.

      • Angry@angry says:
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        Must be true then.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        Ahh, got it.

        • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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          Duh, it’s those “inside” sources… Non biased, 100% accurate “inside” sources. Some people call it “The No Spin Zone”. What’s your word of the day Angry?

          • angry angry says:
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            I just won’t share it then, and you can remain in the dark. No skin off my back.

          • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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            I’ll just quit commenting on here. I don’t want you to have a scapegoat anyway, then you can pull your only child, I’ll hold something over your head shit with someone else. Pretty sad cause it’s alright for you to say what you want but on the other hand you want to censor anyone who disagrees with you. It gets old, doesn’t make people want to speak their mind. I don’t get it because you critisize other sites for doing the same exact thing your doing.

          • angry angry says:
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            They ask me not to give names. I’m not breaking that trust for ol’ Chuckie. If you can’t understand that, don’t know what to tell you. Go somewhere else if you can’t handle that.

          • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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            Other people may of been asking for names but I was just making a joke… I could care less the name of the sources you have. I just get tired of the attacks on people who disagree with you, that was my point so I am not misunderstood. Sources and whatever else that’s your business. I’ll try to make this my last post if I am understood correctly this time

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            How about sentence of the day?

            If you don’t like the internet blog or forum you’re posting on, go start your own

            Seems reasonable to me

          • Chuck_The_Mouth says:
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            Valid points. Then I could get my own sources and treat everybody like they are less then me. Thanks for the sound advice whiskey!

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            there you go. your blog, your rules. See ya Chief

          • Chuck_The_Mouth says:
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            Would be nice whiskey but ya see I just don’t have the time. I’d rather harass you

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Much like the dmv you’ll have to take a number

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Bye, Felicia.

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          wow no one anywhere uses that one lol

          • Chuck_The_Mouth says:
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            WFO is probably that annoying guy that always repeats all the new cool sayings and uses them all the time

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            Who doesn’t use me?

          • Chucks Moms Anal Orifice says:
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            I get used ALL the time.

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            ^^^This poster is full of crap.

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    Time to forget about this kid. Shift the focus to someone/anyone else who actually has a chance of scoring touchdowns or baskets or throwing no hitters for Oregon State University.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Angry — thanks for the prediction offer.. I can use some insight into the Dow. Is it gettin ready to go belly up? No disasters in the world right now, economy is strong…. what do ya see?

    • angry angry says:
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      I think the economy is weak and what we have is a situation where the govt releases good jobs numbers yet doesn’t talk about the quality of the jobs. Bad jobs, part-time jobs, and seasonal jobs carry the same weight as a job that pays 500k in silicon valley. A job is a job, according to the statistics, and the media eats it up and reports that all is well. Treating all jobs the same skews job reports and gives a false picture of health. Money velocity is a better sign of health, and it’s at very low levels.

      So what happens?

      We have asset bubbles everywhere that want to pop, yet governments won’t let them. Eventually they will pop, but the question is when, and I don’t know b/c it depends (a) what govts do next and (b) if investors buy those “solutions”. My gut says not for a while because people continually fall for it, but it’s a confidence game, so who knows.

      My best guess is we’ll see more of the same. “The trend is your friend” is the Wall St axiom, and the large trend is Central Banks take turns printing money and it drives up assets around the globe. Dow is down like 10% and people are freaking, but that’s barely correction territory. Any good investor knows 10% corrections are healthy and normal.

      My guess is stocks might drop a little, and if they do, QE4/infinity will happen this year and assets will continue to rise once that happens. Thus, I’d hold, which is what I’m doing. Until all that, we’ll probably see down days followed by violent short squeezes upward and just increased volatility…rinse repeat until QE4. If we get a good correction, like 30-50%, which is what we need, buying would be wise [because p/e and future returns would be more in line with fundamentals], but not at 10% or even 20%. Regarding whether to sell, personal call and really is a matter of how much pain you can take. You want to sleep well at night first and foremost.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        In your opinion, what are the top 3 bubbles in the market right now?

        • angry angry says:
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          That’s tough since almost every asset is in a bubble, but I’d say SF and NYC housing (and to a slightly lesser degree housing in general), Bonds (at 2-3% returns, we would have ZERO buyers without central banks buying), and cash. Any debt instrument (so bonds and cash) has to be considered in a massive bubble when you consider 20 trillion in national debt.

          Art and collectibles are up there. Stocks are high, but with a P/E of ~20 and a historical norm of 15 I wouldn’t call them in a bubble, just on the high side of fair market, though much of that is due to share buybacks, and those strengthen the bubble argument for stocks, too. On the flipside, commodities are cheap. What I find hilarious is that the mainstream news will tell people the economy is great, and then not make the connection that if the economy were truly great, commodities (in general..some vary due to drought, oversupply like fracking/oil, etc) would be booming. Dr. Copper is always the key, and he’s low.

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        When everyone’s slaving away at two jobs just to make ends meet, they’ll boast a 200% employment rate

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          A household, let alone everyone, wouldn’t need to work two jobs to get by if everyone didn’t buy everything they are told to buy… and we went back to investing in education.

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          Exactly right, Scotty. Even their “consumer confidence”, which made the market briefly go up, is based on shoddy polling with illogical conclusions.

          I give stats little merit. A few are good and accurate, but most stats tell a tall tale, or, incomplete picture of reality.

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        Velocity of money is not a good indicator of economic health. All it does is tell you that consumers are buying new goods. Noids hoarding whatever their endtimes friends tell them to hoard, bartering and re-purposing goods all kill V.

        Jobs are jobs. I don’t know what to tell you. They are just jobs. It’s an employer’s market out there still. So if that’s what you’re getting at, then you can go that route. But that’s because consumer capitalism needs it to stay this way in order to be a viable system.

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          Nobody hoards goods for end days. That’s a super small minority. Probably like under 1% of the population. 60% of people have less than 3 days of food in their house. Most live paycheck to paycheck. Not sure what you’re talking about with hoarding, but it sounds like more anti Bircher paranoia.

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            As fat as America is, I’m suspecting they have more than three days of food in their homes. And who doesn’t know what houses have huge stores in their neighborhoods? I suspect those are the ones you’re talking about. Maybe they’re just more common out west?

            And food isn’t the only thing hoarded in times of paranoia. Try money on for size. Who has it, and who is hoarding it?

    • angry angry says:
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      And on cue, my fiancee got laid off this morning, in this booming economy.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Who said it’s booming?

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          Mostly the media, but above Steve said it’s strong.
          There is a general sentiment things are about to pickup, which is funny because we haven’t had a technical recession in 7 years, and we have one ever 5, so the law of averages alone says we’re due. Yet the media says we’re ready for takeoff!

          • Jack Jack says:
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            It’s booming for hedge funds, and they own the media. So I guess there’s that.

            But they also pull the strings of political puppets like Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan, who constantly disrupt or threaten to disrupt (which, ironically, disrupts) the economy all the time. This is what you get with little or zero regulation in financial markets. This is pure capitalism.

            Are you saying you dislike pure capitalism?

            Sorry about the job situation, btw.

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            Thanks, Jack. Rough day. She’s upset.

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    Mizzu QB allegedly suspended for snorting Coke…nice. There’s even a video evidence assuming it’s him. Oops.

    • Dave Baldwin says:
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      Oh crap, they punish people for snorting Coke now?! First I get demoted, then the whole thing with Seth, and now this! FML.

      They don’t test for Dr. Pepper, right? That’s practically medicine, I can get a card

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    There’s no mystery as to why Seth Collins has decided to transfer from Oregon State, according to his father.

    “That’s a real simple one,” Trent Collins said Friday. “Seth wants to play quarterback. Oregon State doesn’t want him to play quarterback. That’s what it’s about.”

    A 6-3, 185-pound true freshman from San Diego, Seth Collins started through the first half of the 2015 season, showing electric skills as a runner in the Beavers’ spread offense. But he was also erratic in terms of passing, decision-making and leadership

    That last statement is why he was benched. I omitted the part about the alleged injury. Because same as in the beginning, I’m not buying it. Yeah that’s totally the coaches fault. Maybe someone isn’t coachable. Nah. Couldn’t be that.

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/290080-167459-desire-to-play-qb-is-reason-for-collins-transfer-father-says

    So, in other words, since I’m not getting what I want I’m taking my ball and going home. Did Brent Vanderveen bitch or transfer out when his coaches asked him to change position? I can’t think of a single player that has for that reason. Dude needs to get over himself. Good luck wherever he winds up. He’s going to need it

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    You are all idiots!!! Seth’s dad obviously worships idiot boy. Nothing speaks higher than an opinion as fortuitous!

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      I highly doubt that.

      Idiot boy hates black people and doesn’t exactly do well with the vulva demographic.

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        White guilt seeping out Jock. You don’t know the guy but call him a racist. Very liberal of you, ass.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Angry, how about a prediction on the outcome of the Harney County idiots?

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      I have many opinions about them, suffice to say they are costing me $5 a day. Gohomemalheur.com

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        EDIT: gohomemalheur.ORG. Haven’t had my coffee yet

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          I have questions about the gohome… outfit, do you have answers?
          1-It is my understanding that pledges are due when the occupation ends (ie: nothing has been collected so far), correct?
          2-What system, if any, is in place to audit use of any funds collected?
          3-Since gohome… says they will distribute what they collect to 4 other organizations, what is the process for any tax deduction for those who donate?
          4-Any thoughts on how many pledges will actually be fulfilled?
          5-And this is key—–What are the chances that this campaign will have ANY effect on the occupiers?

          • Homefry Homefry says:
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            1: yes
            2: I don’t know
            3: believe a receipt will generated showing contributions
            4: probably 80% or higher now that the deal is done
            5: no effect but a way to support causes either directly affected or supporting education of rational thought.

            I was on some major deadlines today, didn’t see this thread blow up until now

      • angry angry says:
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        Can someone give me a non-lunatic/non-conspiracy theory explanation as to what’s going on?

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          2 guys get charged with terrorisim for starting fires on their property that Burn onto public land. The fires were started to back burn wildfires headed for their property. They put them out themselves. Both men (father and son) are kind of sketchy, (ie they have been said to threaten fed officials and their families, maybe poachers, several other things that so far I haven’t seen credible evidence). They go to trial found guilty of fires and sentenced. Judge hands down lighter sentences from what mandatory minimums were (mind you, they were charged with terrorism for a fire they put out). Gov attorneys go crazy, and fight sentencing, while guys serve time. Guys get out, feds find judge to overturn sentence and send guys back for more time served.
          People get pissed guys will be sent back to prison. Clivin Bundy gets involved sends militia guys up to protest also. Locals don’t want them there, and they decide to take over refuge building about 30 miles away from town. Lots of talk back and forth from then, til know.

          This is just cliff notes. Every aspect of this deal goes down its own rabbit hole. The lines of good guy/bad guy are very blurry in this case. But like I wrote before, his reasons are valid, but this take over is not. At this point the arson and Bundy deal are 2 different things with government over-reach the common denominator.

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            That terrorism charge seems like BS.

            I’ll have to look into the rest. It seems the devil is in the details with all that.

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            Yeah its definitely BS, the original judge even said so. This whole thing was started because of that charge and the government attorneys unwillingness to accept the sentence handed down even thou they won the case. It also sounds like the gov attorney did some back door BS to find a judge that would overturn the sentence also.

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            Pretty good cliff notes, BB. Especially liked, “Every aspect of this deal goes down its own rabbit hole”, so very true!
            BTW: I saw a link to the trial transcript (or summary), may try to locate it later. Anyway, it changed my opinion of the father/son from thinking they’d been given a raw deal to believing they deserve the longer sentences, and more. Example: One of the fires they set was not on their property and was downhill from an encamped group of wildland firefighters!

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            They’re not convicted of terrorism. They’re convicted of arson on public land. Unfortunately for them, that carries a mandate formed under AEDPA that it carry a sentence of five years. The trial judge ruled that sentence an infraction of the Eighth Amendment and lessened the sentences to 3 months and one year respectively. But that was overturned, and now they have to serve the full five years each.

            Bundy is a puppet of Big Oil/Mining who is trying to lessen federal control of federal lands so that legislators in some states can glean profits (and accrue power) from drilling and mining operations by taking control of those lands. I don’t know if he knows he’s a puppet. But that’s who controls him. I’d be willing to bet he does know, and that he’s all hat.

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            From what I understand those guys were like 2 miles away watching the main fire burn acrossed private land. But that is the problem the gov attorneys I think fudged a lot of details in the trial. For example the kid who testefied against them who is a family member. He said they were deer hunting on the property when the guys started a fire….just to start a fire. He told them everyone was hunting because it was opening day. Problem is..it was august. Deer hunting begins at the end of September in the Steens unit. The attorneys hung a lot of their case on this kid, it shows that something was fucky.

            And I’m still on the fence about those guys. If you were to put me on the jury with an arson charge…I’d convict aND go for time served and a fine. But a terrorism charge…no way. And I read somewhere that their attorney tried to get the gov to change the charges to arson and that they would have plead guilty to that. I’m not sure if it is true or not but It sounds like they were fighting the terrorism charge more than anything.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            This whole thing was started because of that charge and the government attorneys unwillingness to accept the sentence handed down even thou they won the case. It also sounds like the gov attorney did some back door BS to find a judge that would overturn the sentence also.

            Sorry, but you can’t have it both ways. The US Attorney is bound by law to pursue this. If you want federal mandates on sentencing, then this is what you get. Congress deemed this punishment appropriate in 1996, and nobody has changed it since. If you want to say mandatory sentencing as a whole sucks hard, then I’m with you. I think it takes the judgment part of being a judge out of the equation and makes them courtroom babysitters. And there are prisons stuffed with people just like this because of them.

            But the people we elect aren’t going to do anything about it as long as there are incentives other than service for them to make laws.

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            And I read somewhere that their attorney tried to get the gov to change the charges to arson and that they would have plead guilty to that. I’m not sure if it is true or not but It sounds like they were fighting the terrorism charge more than anything.

            They were not convicted or even fighting a terrorism charge. They were only fighting arson charges. They would not have fought those charges if they didn’t carry a federally mandated sentence of five years. That should tell you something.

            The only reason “terrorism” is mentioned is because the sentence for being convicted of burning public property is mandated under AEDPA, which was passed in the wake of terrorism… a chest-thumping, tough on crime law.

            If you don’t like the law, change the law. But don’t go selling rumors.

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            Jack, they are saying that the terrorism charge was false and it was always an arson charge. But the original court documents show it as a federal charge of arson under the Patriot act, which includes terrorism. The gov attorneys are now stating that terrorism was never what the charge was….yet in an interview before trial the lead gov attorney told a local paper that the Hammonds were terrorists. But your right I shouldn’t have said terrorism.

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            That was probably a basket of suggested charges that prosecutors introduce in order to induce a plea. That is also a practice I abhor. It’s essentially the prosecutor saying, “Well, we could prosecute you under this,” when they can’t.

            If they could have prosecuted them under the PATRIOT Act, then they should have done so if only to expose that stain in our nation’s history.

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      While I understand their reasons for doing this, they are completely wrong in their execution. Bundy lives for this shit, he’s a narcissist. If they stopped the nonstop news coverage and everybody just ignored them, they would go away eventually.

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      I really have not followed that at all.

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        Angry, dig deep in to how the BLM has gone about acquiring land in the Malheur area over the last 30ish years.

        Also have a look at the moonbat from Coos Bay that was cherry picked to be the US Attorney and her handling of the Hammond situation.

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          http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?referer=

          This may shed some light on why the government wants arid western land.

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            Apparently natural gas companies didn’t grease the right paws for that plot. Or… they just know they can drink that milkshake anyway.

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            Jack, I agree 100%. I don’t like the Bundys one bit, but I’m conflicted about their involvement because now at least there is some national attention to the Hammond/BLM situation.

            I wish there had been another way to draw attention without the Bundy Mormon media circus involvement.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            http://m.shalereporter.com/industry/article_0de547ba-8ca4-11e2-ab4e-0019bb30f31a.html

            Oil and natural gas are getting theirs from the BLM too.

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            https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2015/fracking-06-10-2015.html

            BLM was sued in California after they approved millions of acres of public land for fracking. I’m no enviro- whacko but that’s just bullshit. There has to be some use of public land for businesses but grazing cattle is just a bit different fracking or strip mining.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            The BLM has little to do with the privatization of public lands… except for those who have power to mandate what the BLM does. This is the end game for those using ranchers as some kind of “freedom” excuse. As soon as public lands grant private domain, those ranchers are gone because their cattle would all die off… from not one documented case of mining or drilling adversely affecting the water supply.

            edit: There are no documented cases, btw, because of the Halliburton Loophole in the 2005 Energy Act. I watched the hearings and floors when that was discussed. I heard what they were saying, and I knew who was paying them to say it. I’ve also read the legislation. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. It’s written into the public record.

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          WFO… those guys are thugs. They’re just a bunch of goons. They were not even arguing the pretense you suggest above. They were not welcome by the people, probably because people don’t usually like gangs of armed thugs hanging around in their town. They were told, by the people whose plight was their pretense for coming, to go away.

          They are puppets who are sent to try and tear the fabric of our society into smaller pieces. They’re simple divide and conquer tactics.

          The federal government should be stockpiling water sources right now for the sake of our people. The water wars have already begun, and we the people will lose if private interests get their hands on everything.

          Then again, we can all just go buy a plot on the Guarani Aquifer if we’re truly worried about it.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      They might seem like idiots now but will they still be after stuff like this starts happening?

      https://www.youtube.com/embed/44vzMNG2fZc

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        That video doesn’t have anything to do with the idiots in Harney Co. These guys are entitled, whiny, victims who want a handout in order to attempt to make a living wrecking public land while clinging to a dying career. Then they use violence and intimidation on top of it. Nothing they’re doing is justified.

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    New topic, seth the great is gone ….

    Recruiting ?

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Kyle DeVan is the new o-line coach at Ball State. Good for him.
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14646497/ball-state-cardinals-hire-tim-daoust-defensive-coordinator

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    What is a pretty good recruiting class for OSU would be a terrible – horrible recruiting class for USC, UCLA, etc. I know after last year recruiting to OSU is even more difficult but my question is how does OSU get over the recruiting hump sort of speak? Does anyone feel like we are really headed in that direction or is it just a dream. I know, I sound like Debbie downer but when I look at our recruiting class as compared to other Pac-12 teams it is just discouraging:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/01/pac-12_football_recruiting_ran_1.html#0

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      What works for one football team doesn’t work for another. That includes players that fit systems and playing style. UCLA has usually top classes in the pac12, look at were they are at. 8-5 and can barely put together a complete game everyweek, even with an established coach and philosophy. It’s wait and see how these guys fit the program, but scoring 4* recruits is a start. 3* guys are everywhere, so lossing some isn’t as bad as higher rated guys. I’m happy with the position we are now…it’s exciting, things are changing, for better or worse I don’t know, but I’ll give GA the benefit of the doubt until year 4.

    • Bill says:
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      Winning helps everything.

      Looks like they are done with the class. Just trying to hold it together. Maybe one or two more but no big time signings. With 7 JC transfers, it’s important for those guys to have an immediate impact, not to bring depth but to step into starting roles.

  • Bill says:
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    Basketball team’s resume coming down the stretch:

    It’s not a bad one at all, it’s actually decent. I was thinking 10 wins would get them in, but now I’m thinking 9 should do it. The non conference turned out to be a decent one that helps a lot. Current RPI is 40.

    The good –
    1. There are no bad losses. All the losses have come against top 50 RPI teams. Valpo has helped out a lot leading their conference. Kansas is going to be a top team all year.

    2. Three wins vs top 50 RPI teams.

    3. The depth of the PAC12 will keep the Beavs on the bubble barring any collapse. Outside of WSU, all PAC12 teams are in the top 100 of the RPI.

    The bad –
    1. No conference road wins.
    2. Wins at Colorado and Utah would have really boosted the resume.

    Losses that would really hurt –
    1. WSU – worst RPI of the conference. 150+. Play them at home.
    2. UW – 2nd lowest RPI.

    Wins that would really help,
    1. @Arizona
    2. @Oregon
    3. @Cal
    4. @USC
    5. A win the pac 12 tourney.

    So 6 more wins should do it. I think they have that many in them.

    • Beavlover69 says:
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      Some good points but why don’t we just see if this team can string together a 2 game winning streak in conference play first before we talk tourney

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Anybody know who had the worst record for a basketball national champion was? Like most losses and won it all? Thanks

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Since the expansion to 64, I would guess it’s either Villanova with Rollie or KU with Danny Manning.

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