01.Oct.2016 Oregon State @ Colorado (Game Thread)

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  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    1st AND the post dating of this thread worked so that’s already 2 miracles (a bit of a stretch) today and perhaps the Beavs can make it a third.

    I’ll second Angry’s and NorCalBeav’s Go BEAVS!

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Speaking of post dating a thread, how far ahead would a thread have to be if the topic was: BEAVS WHIP NIKE, ROSE BOWL NEXT UP?

      That said, GO BEAVS!, one game at a time!

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        Sometime in the next 28 years?

        • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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          Then one would have to wonder if the current software would even run on the hardware that would be in use at that time. πŸ™‚

  • NorCalBeaver NorCalBeaver says:
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    Go BEAVS!

  • Theboneyard says:
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    GoBeavs!

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    GoBeavs!

  • bleedorange says:
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    I think the biggest key to this game is the o line if they play well i think we’ve got a shot.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Go BEAVS!!!

  • bleedorange says:
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    Who is # 36? He had dreads with highlights i saw him during warm ups thought it might have been wallace. He was in pads i can’t think of who else he could have been.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Does anyone have a stream that works? Streamendous isn’t working for me. Argggg

    Never mind, found one.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Don’t be shy with the updates fellas, I’m working today.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    I tuned in a few minutes late. Beavs using good mix of straight ahead running, QB keepers and short passes to get into Buff territory.
    Can we turn it into points?

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    And Lauina is down on the field with an injury which stalls the drive momentarily

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    IIRC, Ortiz had to penalties last week and now one this week. Something to watch.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    LG Lauina is the only OL player to be at the same position this week, rest of OL has been shaken up/moved around.

    Freshman Lavaka is in at LG

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    garretson major miss on that pass should’ve been td.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    Garretson is not a very accurate passer. 0 for 2 on touchdown passes that drive.

    • Mammothboner6969 says:
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      I don’t think he’s even hit a long ball either this year. First game under threw all deep passes and then every game since has been over throwing.

    • bleedorange says:
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      Ya they would be much more productive if he had been more accurate to rhis point.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    3rd and 4 at the 15. Pass to bolden in endzone out of reach. Garretson passes over 10 yards have been off.
    Field goal good. 3-0

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Garretson’s timing and execution are again found to be wanting. How long will the coaches leave him in?

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    4th and 4 at the 14, FG good. Beavs up 3-0
    Any argument for trying to get the first down instead of getting the FG??

    • JockItch JockItch says:
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      It’s a good call…. if the D holds up. Early in the game, getting the points is the best thing to do.

  • Calibeav says:
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    Garreston just never gives our guys a chance to make a play on most balls.. So frustrating.. Some of this falls on the coaches too.. Put some fucking air under the ball son. I mean they can’t keep being ok with him overthrowing dudes left and rigjt

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Wonder if Lavaka will get any carries this year. He was a big ass RB in high school.

  • Doozeldorf says:
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    Garretson can throw side to side, that’s about all.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    And my comcast connection drops. Fucking inreliable piece of shit….

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Welp, down 6-3 now.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Pierce 2 carries, 1st and 10 Beavs

  • BlkOrange says:
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    Is it bad of me to wish that Blount would come in?
    That shovel pass was ugly.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Get Garretson out of there.

  • Calibeav says:
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    I’ve seen enough Garreston already

  • Corey says:
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    The more I see of Garrettson, the less I’m impressed. Always overthrowing his receiver and can never convert on a big down.

  • Mammothboner6969 says:
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    Garrettson is not our guy. I think I’ve seen enough to make a complete review.

    • osbeavs says:
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      I agree. I really wanted Garrettson to be good. It just doesn’t look that way. I was only able to catch portions of last week’s game. Is there any reason that Blount wasn’t given more serious consideration as the future starting QB?

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I’m starting to think the game is already getting away from the Beavs.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Our run defense is non-existent today, I see. Corners aren’t doing well, either.

  • Calibeav says:
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    Montez is carving us up!

  • BlkOrange says:
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    We’re a mess.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    TD Buffs. No pressure on the QB.

    • Calibeav says:
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      True he had all fucking day lol

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      No pressure on the QB or coverage on the receiver. 13-3 Colorado. The route is on…..

  • Mammothboner6969 says:
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    RIP Beavers 2016

  • Corey says:
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    My god this defense is fucking atrocious in every single aspect. This is going to be a horribly long rebuild.

  • angry angry says:
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    Buffs up 13-3. Beavs settling for FGs and then giving up two bombs for TDs (missed extra point).
    Beavs look like absolute shit in every facet of the game.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Worst facet? A tie between pass rush and pass coverage.

    • Corey says:
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      Not sure why I believed they had a shot at an upset. This is a clinic against them.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Blount now warming up, per Jim Wilson. as CO returns a KO nicely, unusual this season.

  • Calibeav says:
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    Looking forward to seeing some spectacular over throws by Garreston here

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Now the question is: Is the coaching staff going to leave Garretson in or are they going to yank him and give Blount or whomever the game experience he needs?

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Going to the 2nd qtr, now the sun will be in the eyes of the Beavs. Can’t hurt the passing game though??

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    It’s not like Colorado isn’t giving our offense room to operate. We just cant make the passes theyre giving us downfield. The multiple 5 yard runs from Nall/Pierce/DG have been encouraging. Just need to complete those first down passes and keep possessions going

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Garretson’s pass to Collins was also overthrown.

    I continue to be unimpressed with the OC’s and QB coach.

  • calibeav calibeav says:
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    Yea qb coach gets much of the blame.. He just has no touch on his throws… Rarely gives guys a chance to make a play… This needs to be engrained in him over and over

  • BlkOrange says:
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    Looked like the Colorado guy going after our QB was offsides.

  • bleedorange says:
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    Our potential offense is handcuffed by garretsons ineffectiveness.

  • calibeav calibeav says:
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    Again…

  • Corey says:
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    Oh look another overthrow

  • Corey says:
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    And does anyone else notice the continued predictable playcalling? Long overthrow on first, handoff on second, and 3rd and long every time.

    • youngorst says:
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      Nothing wrong with the play calling. The deep ball is there on first down. Just need a QB that can make the throw. Play calling has been good so far, execution has failed.

      • Corey says:
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        I guess I agree and disagree. In theory it’s there, but Garretson has never shown that he can hit it. It’s been that way all season, yet they keep doing it.

  • youngorst says:
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    Garretson is simply too inaccurate to win with. Period. Time to put the Frosh back in.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Garretson plays like he’s the guy who has had almost no time playing with the ones.

  • mexibeav mexibeav says:
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    RUN the ball.

  • BlackBeav says:
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    Garretson is terrible. Over threw Hernandez, Bolden and now Collins all for touch downs. We’re leaving points on the field right now.. we need a new quarterback if we want a shot at winning this one.

  • osbeavs says:
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    I am sick of these coaches. I think this is the first time I have been pissed at GA and staff. I have been pretty accepting of the fact that we simply don’t have talent. But what is going on here today? How can we keep taking deep shots and wasting downs? Our offense has been driving when we use all 3 downs to try to get a first. Every deep shot leads to a stalled drive. Our team simply isn’t built to take shots. We get a shitty 3rd and 7 where the d can tee off on our garbage line. We simply can’t get behind schedule when we have a matador lineman and a bad high school qb.

    • youngorst says:
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      Because the deep shots are there. Its not on the coaches. The game plan and play calling are great. The QB isn’t executing. If you never take deep shots (or can’t execute them) you have no chance.

      • osbeavs says:
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        As a general principle I agree with you. But you have to know the limitations of your talent and use coaching skill to hide those talent gaps. This is what football is all about, especially college. We haven’t seen Garrettson be accurate deep. Stop killing drives with these shots. We all blasted Riley when he did this. Can’t pull punches on the new coaching staff for the same mistakes.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          the deep ball isn’t the only option on those plays. It’s the receiver the QB chose to throw to.

  • bleedorange says:
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    Ya im over it we could be winning this game if he hits those. At least give blount a drive.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    LB Titus Failauga injured.

  • scotty says:
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    People are acting like the season is over, but that’s not true. We can still watch the ducks tumble down to earth and see Biley divide those poor bastards. It’s all we have now, really :/

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Thumbs down. My turn to throw up in my mouth a little bit. πŸ™‚

    • angry angry says:
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      I like both those stories. Riley better start floundering this weekend. His schedule has been so easy thus far (Ducks stink this year) so I’m not surprised by 4-0, though they have looked pretty good

  • calibeav calibeav says:
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    Lol… You had the sideline as an extra defender there but fuck it let him go outside..

  • angry angry says:
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    Holy crap, this is unwatchable. GA has lost this team — they’re not even trying.

    • youngorst says:
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      Nonsense, I know your whole schtick is anger but if Garretson could throw a deep ball its a tie game right now. Colorado has done this to everyone this year including Michigan. I guess Harbaugh had lost his team?

      Maybe Colorado is just good?

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Welp, time to do something else today.

  • Corey says:
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    This team is actually unwatchable. Going to do something else

  • BlackBeav says:
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    This is very embarrassing…

    • youngorst says:
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      How? I mean, I get it. We are upset but Colorado did this to Michigan a few weeks back. The only embarrassing part of this game is Garretson. Everything else is expected.

      • BlackBeav says:
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        I guess I expect to win games, not lose them. Maybe I’m a dying breed of beaver fans? Who knows.

        • youngorst says:
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          I do too but there is a difference between wanting wins and living in fantasy land. Colorado has dominated the first half of games all year. With a QB that could throw a deep ball the Beavs would be keeping up. You had to expect this today. You had too. Colorado is a really good team and the Beavs are rebuilding.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I guess those 3 long touchdowns given up must have been Garretson’s fault

  • bleedorange says:
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    Wow the hurry up is killing us they don’t know how to line up.

  • mexibeav mexibeav says:
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    Put in Blount. Garretson not getting it done.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I’m with Ran and Corey. Need to figure out which brand of Physio ball I’m going to buy (on doctor’s orders).

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Oregon State, the team to play if you’re looking to have a career day, in the 1st half alone

  • VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
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    You guys give up way too easily! As the proud owner of 84 NCAA loses, I raised losing to an art form. I’ll let you all know when the point of no return, for this game, has been reached. JB

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    You all can lament Garretson and the offense all you want but this defense has very little Pac-12 talent on that side of the ball.

  • Sandiegobeav says:
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    We are playing like we look in these tacky uniforms. Time to get back to the basics and cut out all the wanna be bullshit.

  • scotty says:
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    Washington will kill this team. Literally, not figuratively. I am seriously concerned for their health.

    • angry angry says:
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      It’ll be like Daniel Son’s first session at the Cobra Kai

  • calibeav calibeav says:
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    I really like Peirce.. That’s one nice thing to say

  • youngorst says:
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    I’m just throwing this out there to all the whiners. Have you guys not seen Colorado all year?

    31-0 at half vs. Colorado State
    49-0 at half vs. Idaho State
    21-7 at end of 1st quarter vs. Michigan
    26-7 lead late in 2nd quarter vs. Ducks.

    This is what they’ve done all year.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    At least Pierce is looking good.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      He had a nice block on that last overthrow by garretson too. I like Pierce’s versatility

  • mexibeav mexibeav says:
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    No more deep throws until garretson proves he can get into the end zone without it.

    • bleedorange says:
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      The beavs r like a bad gambler at the table they have got to complete one of these deep balls out of sheer probability. Right?

    • scotty says:
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      Garretson being a good teammate and taking the onus off Bolden and Villamin for potential drops. Can’t drop it if it’s uncatchable!

  • osbeavs says:
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    How did we take another deep shot that failed? That crossing route to Collins bailed us out. Slant, Crossing route, motion swing pass, QB Draw, and Cutback zone have all been there all day against this d? It’s not like we need to throw deep in order to open up these plays, they have been there! This has got to stop.

    • youngorst says:
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      The deep ball is there too and those other plays won’t be there if you can’t threaten them deep. They need to bring in Blount, he is more accurate on deep throws. Should’ve already happened.

      • osbeavs says:
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        Those plays have been open even before we started taking shots deep. Can’t get greedy. You don’t need to throw deep to create diversity in your offense.

        But I agree, Blount should be playing. Maybe have even started.

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          But when the deep ball is there (and it is) you should throw it deep.

  • angry angry says:
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    I say give Blount some shots.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    We should’ve gone for it on 4th there.

  • osbeavs says:
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    Let’s get a game count of deep throws that Garrettson embarrasingly ruins our offense with. I have us at 5 now. Only one was inconsequential, the rest were devastating to our drives and all have cost us points.

  • BlkOrange says:
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    Blount is warming up!

  • bleedorange says:
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    Ya lets not wait til the second half.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Radio reports that Blount warming up so maybe……..

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    They keep on burning us on the right side, and it’s making me mad.

  • mexibeav mexibeav says:
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    How Colorado is calling the game is what the OSU OC should be doing. Enough of trying to be cute. Just run it until they can stop us. Then throw slants and quick throws.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Montez comes up gimpy. Something to watch

  • BlkOrange says:
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    Irvine injured. Possibly left arm. Didn’t look good when he was down.

  • angry angry says:
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    They’re not going to have enough players to field a team soon. Might have to forfeit the season.

  • youngorst says:
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    This defense is terrible. Out of position over and over. That is where the coaching complaints should be directed. The offensive game plan has been good but poorly executed by a lousy QB (why did they not like Del Rio?) but defensively they just look lost.

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      Many of our players are out of position because the line is simply moving our guys out of position. Can’t blame our players for being weaker, slower, and less talent. I get mad at the coaches when that reflects recruiting (can’t be true yet for this staff). I blame the coaches when scheme kills what is effective (see OSU offense). We all know our defense is a sieve and there is nothing that will change that.

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        I’m talking about DBs not DL. There is no excuse for the Colorado receivers being so wide open so often.

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          DBs are looking in the backfield to help support the run and/or blitzing. Of course their WRs are open.

          Also DBs lack talent. Don’t have the speed to keep up with the CU wrs so we play a lot of zone. A good QB can beat a zone d. Montez is a good qb.

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            DBs should NEVER be looking to the backfield to help support the run when they have coverage responsibilities. That is not their job. So if they are doing it, that is a direct reflection of coaching.

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            Zone’s ran correctly might give up completions but they don’t leave WRs wide open over the top which has happened 3 times already. That is DBs not doing their jobs. Speed or not.

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            Well I am finally glad we can agree that the coaching is the issue here. Let’s stop calling it execution and get to down to facts. We have the least talent in the entire Pac (maybe all of power 5) and our coaches aren’t pulling their weight to try to hide that in scheme.

          • youngorst says:
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            I disagree offensively, I just can’t agree that you abandon the vertical passing game when its there. You need to take those shots, you just do. Otherwise everything else will stop working when CU walks their safeties up.

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        Execution is killing the offense, DBs being out of position is killing the defense.

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      So frustrating, take ’em to 4th and inches but can’t keep Bison out of end zone.
      27-6

  • angry angry says:
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    Nebraska up 7-0. Gross.

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      Nebby opponents including Illinois are a combined 6-10. Biley not exactly ploughing through murderer’s row, but don’t tell TPB that

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    Ugwoegbu is the only Bright spot. *Bada Bing*

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    That’s a back breaker for the defense right there.

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    Not yet.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Can we transfer some of our special teams guys to offfense and defense? Because it’s clear they’re the best unit on our team right now.

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    Lol we trash

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    Well shoot, now Bright O. might be hurt.

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    Time out CO with 1:12 remaining and up by 21…….can you spell PUT THE KNIFE IN

    Admirable coaching, seriously……looking forward the Beavs having that killer instinct. Some day.

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    Besides the blown assingment chappell looks good again.

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    Give up! Time to sub, save injuries, plan for Cal and look forward to that tasty post-game Subway sandwich, chips and a Snapple and a fun plane ride home. JB

  • angry angry says:
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    37-6 as Garrettson throws a pick 6.

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      That was Blount, not Garrettson. And that was more on the receiver (Collins, I think?), not Blount.

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    Lol this team is a fucking JOKE.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I’m not impressed with the play calling.

    Screen passes require timing. So they call a screen pass with a QB that has almost NO playing/practice time.

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    We force CU to kick a FG before halftime, then on our next offensive play we throw a pick 6. Half step forward, 10 steps back.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    The light has gone out of my life.

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    Mmmmmm hot garbage :-3

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    We thought the Boise St 1st half was bad….

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    Time for the big comeback

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    Garretson really missed too many opportunities early that stalled the offense to keep the game close. Overall play calling has been fine. Glad to see Blount in the game, but that ball was in Pierce’s hands and he just bobbled it

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    1-11, here we come….

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    When does basketball start again?

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      We trash in basketball too yo

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        Typically I’d call a troll like you a cocksucker, but I know how hard you’\re trying to quit.

  • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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    Rebuilds suck. I don’t expect rationality in the middle of a beat down. Unfortunately you have to wait years to see if they will work. You can’t have a new staff come in and blow up the program only to bail on them after 1.25 years.

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    Lets see blount and pierce with collins and lucas in the second half. D needs to adjust and line-up.

  • youngorst says:
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    0-9 last year with an average margin of loss at 25 points.

    I was never overly excited about Anderson but figured he was a good hire given his history but I am starting to question that. I wanted Beau Baldwin and truly think he’d be a better fit.

    I know Anderson will be given at least 1 more year but the lack of improvement is maddening. Even when McIntyre was getting destroyed at Colorado I would watch and could see what he was trying to accomplish. I have no idea what Anderson is trying to do.

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Part of it is the OC play calling, part is lack of talent, a lot of it is lack of depth.

      Which is easiest to fix immediately?

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        I think its mostly QB play that is the problem. OL is not great but skill positions aren’t bad. Put an average PAC QB on this team and I think its more competitive with a few PAC wins under their belt. Probably 2-3 last year and capable of 4-5 this year with average QB play.

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      I think my biggest concern is what he is doing at the QB position. I like that they are redshirting Moran and think he has talent but how he can drive a guy like Del Rio out for Collins and Garretson is just unbelievable to me. Not that Del Rio is an All-American or anything but you can’t tell me he isn’t better than those 2.

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        He wasn’t when he was here, he was even second. Sure the coaching staff had a hard on for collins but del rio wasn’t even second string. Hind sight is 20/20 but del rio just wasn’t that good either, nobody ran him off, he quit on his own.

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          We can say that but shouldn’t a quality coach have seen that talent? He was 2nd string at the end of 2014 and seemed to be Riley’s guy. I’m not gonna defend Riley (believe me, I am very happy he is gone) but Riley did know QBs and Riley liked Del Rio. So I don’t think its just hindsight but more a lack of foresight.

          He left because Anderson buried him at the bottom of the depth chart which appears to have been an error in hindsight.

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            And just to add another thought. I assumed he buried Del Rio because he was planning to implement a spread option attack and Del Rio didn’t fit that but its become obvious (to me at least) that was not the reason. So to me its now clear he just failed to see talent in Del Rio and I think that was clearly wrong.

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          Also it wasn’t the first time Del Rio ran from a situation. Not sure that is reflective of good leadership. Nor has he looked that impressive at Florida. Gators have a lot of talent, but Del Rio on this squad and I imagine he looks like hot garbage too.

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            Lets be factual, he took a shot at walking on at Alabama. It didn’t work out and he likely was not offered a scholarship there after 1 year so he transferred to Oregon State. That is nonsense to say he “ran from a situation”.

            I get it, you think its all coaching but the reality is that the play calling has been pretty good and has attacked weaknesses of the defense but Garretson has been terrible at executing those calls; he has also been terrible at recognizing when a free blitzed would be coming which will always happen.

  • cj cj says:
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    Time to go on a bike ride….

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      I got the lawn mowed before the rain came, but looking at the score it time to get the Halloween stuff up I guess

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    Why is Lucas been out of the games? I don’t see him on the field let along hear his name the last 2 games. Doghouse? Not understanding playbook? Injured?

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    Well, Boulder is a great town, so at least that makes the trip not feel like a total waste.

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    Poor throw by Blount on 3rd down. Had he led Collins good things would happen.

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      Looked to me like Collins got tripped there. Would’ve liked a call there.

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    Titus F. hurt, won’t return today. Tears from Gabby??

  • angry angry says:
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    GA’s message has fallen on deaf ears. These players don’t care and just want to go home and put on their little boy pants.

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      I’m not so sure this is a deaf ears performance. This is more like taking 6th grade math students and placing them in calculus. We can’t really blame them for poor performance. Their talent limits their ability to perform in a meaningful way. I honestly think this team is a 6-6 FCS team. The talent deficit is just too deep.

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        Don’t know if I’d go that far, but yes, we definitely have the least talent in the Pac-12, and the gap between us and 11th place is significant.

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    Wonder if it’ll be another 28 years before we see a winning season? Just not enough talent out there on the field.

    • youngorst says:
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      No, it will not be another 28 years.

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      I think it is possible. We are going to need some sort of small miracle to pull us out of this. I just don’t see how they can possibly recruit enough talent to catch up. Certainly going to take years before we even have enough depth to be competitive in games.

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        Yeah, okay. You know they were able to recruit enough talent to finish above .500 11 of the last 17 seasons but its gonna take 28 years to do it again? Sure….Jesus some of you have lost sight of reality.

        Its a lack of quality QB play. Bad QB play means you lose lots of games. Good QB play and the Beavers will win 6 games next year.

        Colorado was 4-9 and 1-8 in PAC play in 2015, you realize the only real difference on their roster is the redshirt QB that knows what he is doing. The rest of the roster is nearly identical to the helpless team of 2015.

        If Anderson finds a QB the Beavs will be just fine, if he doesn’t (and I lack confidence on this one) they will continue to stink.

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          CU has improved O line play. QB play is not the only story (otherwise the Colts would be good). I have seen situations where both Garrettson and Blount haven’t had time to hit a WR running a quick out because the pressure has them on the run before the receiver reaches the break point on their route. There isn’t a QB that can come in and play through that inconsistency. Also QB play doesn’t explain a 40 point deficit. CU will be ranked and will have a shot at the south this year. The point isn’t that its happening against CU but that it continues to happen. We struggled in the trenches against Idaho State, that screams massive talent gap.

          • youngorst says:
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            Have you watched the Colts? Andrew Luck is a below average QB and has been for the last 2 years. He simply isn’t the star everyone thinks he is right now. When he was the Colts were winning.

            You know what teams consistently have the worst offensive lines in the NFL? New England and Seattle. Yet they keep on winning because their QB play is excellent.

            The only times the QBs haven’t had time is when CU has brought a blitz and the QB failed to recognize it early enough to audible or hit the hot route. That is also on bad QB play.

            QB play does explain the 40 point deficit today. The QBs have both missed multiple big play opportunities today. I am not claiming that have the talent to win the North anytime soon but to win 3 OOC games vs. Minnesota, Colorado State, and Portland State along with going 3-6 in PAC play. Yes, the 2017 roster could do that with quality QB play.

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            Luck isn’t below average (he’s actually above), but he’s not a super star. He was also becoming a superstar when he got hurt last year, and he’s banged up this year, so part of it is injury.

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          Below average may not be correct, I will grant that but he isn’t elite right now. And that was my point. I didn’t make the point as well as I could have.

          You put an average QB on OSU right now and you get 3-4 wins. Above average and you’d get to 6. Elite and who knows.

          I stand by that belief. QB play is killing any hope for OSU right now.

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            An elite QB is needed and would help. The o-line is so bad that I’m not sure it would matter unless this theoretical QB was also a great runner. Moran is the closest to that on the roster. Maybe take off the red shirt? I know it’s crazy and short-sighted, but for morale it might not be a bad move. The morale on this team must be abysmal given that GA looks suicidal in interviews.

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            I disagree, not gonna claim the line play if good but even with the bad line the offense has had open receivers down field and time to hit those receivers. The QBs have just failed to do so.

            No way would I pull the redshirt on Moran. If that was even an option it needed to happen last week (if not in Minnesota). At this point; you commit to prepping him for next season and get 4 years out of him.

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            To put it another way, you can mask bad Offensive line play with schemes:

            shotgun
            3 step drops
            draws
            screens
            keeping extra guys in
            1 read routes
            hot routs
            etc….

            But you cannot mask below average QB play. It just can’t be done.

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            Agree these QBs are all below average and can’t be masked. Collins was horrible. These two guys are very bad. That’s not the kind of “upgrade” you’re looking for.

            GA doesn’t know how to handle QBs. Early on I said his success would depend on getting a valid QB in here, and he hasn’t. He/we better hope Moran is the real deal.

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            When they went with Collins I assumed we’d be running a spread option system that included lots of roll outs with option passes which don’t require near the level of accuracy as a traditional passing game does.

            But then we didn’t do that stuff so I don’t understand why they were so committed to Collins and ditching the more traditional QBs that Riley had recruited. I think that Anderson would like to have those decisions back. For all of Riley’s faults (and he had many) he did tend to have an eye for QBs. Anderson should have probably gone with one of Riley’s guys last year. And that probably should have been Del Rio.

            I am hoping Moran is the real deal, if he isn’t I think OSU might start looking for the money needed to relieve Anderson of his coaching duties.

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            I doubt they’ll buy out Andersen so quickly, but a lot depends on Moran. I wrote early on that finding a QB would make or break GA.

            Thing is, he has had QB problems in the past and just doesn’t seem to get it. Riley is good with QBs for sure.

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            I think if they keep getting blown out in PAC play they might look for that money after next season. They’re average margin of loss over his first 10 PAC games is around 30 points. Reser was about 25% empty last week and would have probably been over 50% empty if not for Boise State fans showing up. I’m not sure Ed Ray will have patience when its as bad as its been. if they are competitive next year (or get competitive this year) or Anderson wins a Civil War than sure he’ll get 4-5 years but if not I could see them moving on after 3 years assuming they can find the cash. They may not be able to afford to wait longer.

            Might mean hiring the next guy on the cheap (Beau Baldwin or a similar type maybe) but you can’t let this go on for too long or you are in even worse shape financially when people completely stop showing up/donating.

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            Washington State and CO just went through this. It takes like 5 years…

            I think if they’re this bad after 4 people will want him gone, but I think people are mostly willing to give him 4 years.

            That first recruiting class was scrapped together at the last minute, so he’s only had 1 true cycle. Needs at least 3. I’m seeing a lot of flaws with GA but still like him and believe he can get the job done. His biggest flaw is not understanding QBs/offense.

            B. Baldwin probably won’t be around when GA gets fired or leaves. Someone is going to hire him soon. I’m not convinced he’s great. E. Washington gets a ton of tweeners who bully the teams in that conference who don’t.

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            While I wanna agree, I watched Colorado when McIntyre arrived and I always believed he’d figure it out, that team had an identity and played hard.
            He also won a PAC game year 1, was competitive in several of the year 2 losses (2 were in double overtime), and was competitive in several PAC games in year 3. You could see his teams improving on the field. It was a clear progression.

            WSU went Bowling in year 2 under Leach so the comparison to WSU isn’t fair in my view.

            We shall see how the rest of the year goes but I don’t see this as being the comparable to either of those situations unless the Beavs are much more competitive in the coming weeks.

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            I’m not giving up on Anderson but I do think you might underrate his QB issues. To me, that is a fatal flaw for a coach. If you can’t evaluate that position accurately and get the right one on the field nothing else even matters in my view, you will fail.

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            I’m not sure how much attrition those teams had. GA lost like 50% of his team and then had a makeshift recruiting class year 1. So he’s a year behind in that sense. I’m not making excuses for the guy, but he has a horrible situation. Riley is to blame for some of it, but GA should have encouraged more players to stay. He wanted to clean house and get “his guys” into the program, but that puts him a year behind now.

          • youngorst says:
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            I was never really high on Anderson to begin with. He just doesn’t excite me and I have hated how he’s handled the QB position from day 1 which for me is just a huge red flag. But it started before that, I am simply in the camp of having a head coach with an offensive background at the college level. You can find quality defensive minds to be coordinators but the smart offensive guys get head jobs.

            Look at the AP top 10. I believe 9 out of the 10 teams in there are coached by a guy with an offensive background (Saban at Bama being the only exception). I don’t think that is a coincidence.

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            I don’t disagree, man. I think I wrote a post a while back saying the only way GA would fail at OSU is if he didn’t get a QB.

    • angry angry says:
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      No, year 4, which means we have another 2 years of this…

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        Year 4 to win a pac12 game or year 4 for a winning season?

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Penalties: Beavs 2/10, Bison 4/40.

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    I’m done. When Colorado can play their third quarterback against you in a full quarter of garbage time…. I refuse to watch. JB

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Disappointment today is partially spelled DEFENSIVE BACKS.
    I had thought the Beavs had a shot against Cal and WSU, now not so sure.

  • angry angry says:
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    Riley is now losing.

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      Sadly, that is exactly the type of game he has historically lost. Build up expectations, then piss them away. They’ll do that then beat some Top 10 team later in the season, because fuck consistent coaching.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Lotta game left to play.

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    Seth Collins is a headcase.

  • Outcast says:
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    Kick Seth Collins off the team and be done with it. I don’t care how talented he is, his attitude is an absolute cancer.

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    NO DISCOUNT FOR YOU!!!

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    16-10 Illinois.

  • angry angry says:
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    “Teachable moments for the Beavers”…lol

    • them beavers them beavers says:
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      they must be the smartest team around with all these lessons

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      a “revelatory” moment for Blount…….and the team

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Not watxhing but my espn game tracker says beavs completed a pass for negative 46 yards? Is that real?

  • angry angry says:
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    Eggers copied my pun.
    https://twitter.com/kerryeggers/status/782322182781145088

  • mckalk says:
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    Any insiders heard anything about Villamin? To my layman’s eyes, he’s somehow lost a step. I know the QB play is shitty, but he’s not getting much separation either.

    Also,I got a few thumbs downs when I said something over the summer about Garrettson being a servicable mid-major back up QB and expectations were too high with him. I think that has come to pass.

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    Riley just got a little gift from the officials. Nebraska was definitely stopped short on 4th down but got the call. No way was that a first down.

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    Lovie Smith is a really bad coach. Is he only getting jobs because he’s black? Seriously…

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      To be fair and shutup the social justice warriors, I think the same about Lane Kiffin. Awful coach who keeps getting gigs because of his dad.

      And I’m 6% black so go fuck yourself.

      • youngorst says:
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        Lovie Smith is an good coach. Got a raw deal with the Bears (who gets fired when you go 10-6 in the NFL?) and wasn’t given time in TB for some reason. So I don’t think his color has anything to do with it.

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          Maybe, but every time I come across a game where he’s coaching I scratch my head. Dude makes some very questionable calls. .500 coach in the NFL…I guess he’s average at least. Maybe I just bump into his worst games.

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        I agree with your approach to the SJW’s, but you’ll never shut them up. It’s both a religion and knee jerk reaction for them to scream RACIST!

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    I don’t mind seeing CU become relevant in the PAC, especially if UO is on the descent. Wouldn’t be good for the league if Utah and CU were irrelevant.

    3 years before Beavs are relevant again. Unless Anderson leaves and OSU has to start all over.

    Go Cougs!

  • angry angry says:
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    Riley moves to 5-0.

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      The back half of their schedule are the tougher games.

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        He’ll come crashing down, we all know how it works. General mediocrity with some surprise upsets (and being upset) to divide the fanbase. Yawn.

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    Anderson may need a JUCO or transfer QB to go along with the JUCO lineman.

    I know one should be patient in a rebuild, but I think it needs a jump start as Moran or others are developed, or recruiting becomes that much more difficult.

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    we suck. sad beav.

  • I like carrots alot says:
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    Back from hunting…I see I didn’t miss much in the beavs game today. No bucks were seen hunting today. However, driving to an old unmaintained Forest service trail, a 250-300 black bear ran across the logging road in front of me. Beautiful shiny jet black(including its muzzle)with fur around 5 inches long. My daughter and I gave pursuit but alas they are much more suited to running through old growth forest with lots of blow downs and no shot was presented. I consider this hunt a success, quality time spent with my daughter trying to stalk a big Bear is a win in my book. It was the 1st bear she’s ever seen in the wild to, so that was pretty neat for her. Afterwards she was like, I can’t believe we were trying to stalk something I am terrified of. What a day!

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