I believe Jermar, AP, Noah, and Hodgins will all have big games today. The run defense has gotten better the last 4 games. If they play like they did against UW, they will keep us in the game today. GO BEAVS
My hope is the Beavs come out and play the game of their lives.
My fear is Luton gets hit a few times and folds and starts throwing the ball up for grabs.
My other fear is the ucks running the ball over the top of us with very little resistance.
Hopefully because we are playing for a bowl we show up and the ucks don’t.
When a good team meets an aspiring, developing team the better team wins. The Ducks have a lot more and just need to use it. I think it will look like the UW-WSU game last night. Cougars just couldn’t hang in the long run. Ducks win 48-24.
Interesting drama with the Luton injury. Defense being able to compete for the duration feels like the x factor but tough circumstances for the offense/Gebbia. Godspeed.
Injured forearm. Ruled out early in the week as Gebbia’s been preparing as starter since Tuesday. Interesting how they were able to keep it under wraps.
maybe Hayes wasn’t the better kicker earlier in the season, but as the season went on, Hayes got better? It’s hard to tell with practices being closed.
IMO Smith has been ultra-conservative across the board with personnel moves as a remedy to the toxic culture he walked in on taking over for Anderpants. He’s spoke a lot the last two seasons about “building trust”, and I think he’d prioritized establishing a healthy culture with his players over a cut-throat meritocracy, which is what many fans seem to prefer. As this season has drawn on we’ve seen a changing of the guard as some of those warts have been demoted and even transferred out (Choker/Hicks-onu), and others have emerged out of obscurity to take a bunch of minutes (Riley Sharp). There’s arguments to the merits of both those approaches, but it’s also pretty clear that JS has been successful at building a healthy relationship with the locker-room and has continued to get great buy-in and effort.
That 3rd down play by the beavs with the motion man getting the ball was very obvious. need to disguise that better or not use a set up play on a 3rd down.
wow, our special teams is the opposite of special. We’d be better off going for it on 4th down instead of punting. well, that hands to the face penalty really hurt us.
I’ve said that a lot this season just to see this team come back. Aren’t the ducks more a first half team? Well, the beavs aren’t necessarily a second half team.
Welp, Beavs are going to need a miracle to prevent the blowout. No offense, no defense, bad special teams = no win.
Maybe Herbert will start throwing picks?
The slot receiver on the left side needs to do a shallow wheel route while the outside receiver does an inside slant. There is no one within 8 yards of the slot receiver and Oregon is playing man coverage.
Gebbia locked in on Lindsey there and missed Pierce opening up some space in the flat where he probably could have converted. Good on the D to get a stop tho.
Oregon is out-classing them physically a-la Washington (and Utah of course), especially on the line-of-scrimmage. They’ve got to find a way to settle down and get the ball moving somehow on offense, even if it’s scrappy. Otherwise yucks will really run away with it as they’ve got a lot more Offense than Washington did.
If Gebbia had gotten some actual game time playing in games when OSU had no shot at winning, his tuck and run decision-making would be crisper. He’s got a good “clock” but it’s still just a tick slow.
I. Hodgins was open for a shovel pass on the 3rd down as Gebbia was approaching the line of scrimmage. The beavs are being completely over matched/out coached this half big time.
Defense has actually did ok. Special teams have killed us and offense is struggling with dropped passes and penalties.
Play calling is questionable as well.
The air pressure should be the same regardless of temp since the balls are inflated on the field to specifications. The football material though gets stiffer with the colder temps make the ball harder.
It’s not like a car tire? You fill up a car tire with the same outdoor temp and the more you drive, the air in the tire warms up and then contracts when it cools down, causing the tire to deflate, right? Well, a football never truly warms up and is the air being pumped into the football warm or cold air? Yes, the leather on the football gets harder and the cold air in the football condenses or compresses since the air pumps are not air compressors.
So, Luton has gotten EVERY (and I mean EVERY) opportunity to show what he can do and improve his game over the course of THREE seasons, but there will guys in here criticizing Gebbia for a lack of polish starting his first game, in the Civil War no less, on the road. It’ll probably end up like poor Gundy back in 05, with the Ducks running up the score, but it won’t be because Luton was the right call for QB when the season began.
Please expand? Somehow the QB with 28 TD passes would not perform better than the backup in this game? But when Gebbia plays mediocre it’s again Luton’s fault for taking all the reps. The depths you all go to avoid acknowledging being wrong is comical. And where is Angry? Probably calling his host provider to register the domain delusionalbeavs.com
Doesn’t matter what the UNAVAILABLE QB would or could do; point is JS should have given Gebbia game reps which were available in order to better prepare him for what Beavs face today.
Went to a coffee shop to get away from this crap football and of course they have the game on. Sigh.
What’s annoying is that if not for 2 boneheaded plays (hands to face and kick return TD) it’s a 10-7 game. This is no playoff caliber team beavs are facing, not even close.
Regarding Gebbia…he’s played fine for a first start. Not great or awful. Coaches not giving him much with the play calling and seem to be trying to protect him. If they open things up I’d like to see the flow. Considering it’s his first start he’s been fine to good…promising for the future.
I sure hope you are right.
Does not help having the ball start behind the 10 yard line for the last two drives can’t open it up much from your own end zone.
All I know is, Luton wouldn’t be at positive yards right now if he were in the game. Meaning, how many sacks would we have right now instead of getting positive yards? With that said, Gebbia is trying to do too much with his legs; when he tucks and runs, he doesn’t keep his eyes downfield. He looks where he’s running instead of looking for the open receiver. Bradford having 2 legit drops doesn’t help either, but then again, how has the chemistry been between Gebbia and his receivers all season compared to Luton and the receivers? Those two things are the difference makers. Gebbia also has tapped his chest 2-3 times in the first half after a bad pass. We need to find a way to get Hodgins the ball. I see our defense getting tired and wearing down in the second half. Luckily we get the ball to start the second half. We come out and score, we’re right back in this thing.
Who has improved more as a qb over their career, Herbert or Luton? Defense is playing great. Morris with a pass break up and they may have held them to 3.
Neither offense has been productive today. Cold weather does seem to be a factor.
ducks with 163 yards of offense to Beavs 159.
Pretty even game in that regard. Special team have been the killer with poor field position and the kick off returned for a TD.
Tough game get a first start, but opportunities are there
Ducks D is very good. Luton sucked big time against similar D with UW and Utah. Don’t get to compare his stats against Cal Poly to age biz against Oregon. This is a Top 25 D.
I don’t know how players could have any idea what taunting/excessive celebration is. Thibedeaux with the army crawl after a defensive play is totally cool in the middle of the field, and Johnson with the little Lord of the Dance move after his TD earlier.
I’m fine with those being ok, but don’t call some bullshit excessive celebration after a TD later if the Beavs players get in the end zone.
(Kipper is going to make sure we don’t find out though)
This ought to be competitive next year and in the coming years. I’m not watching, but from what I see hear sounds like the D is holding its own. The D ought to be pretty good next year.
wow. Jefferson had a terrible game. too bad. valiant effort by the Beavs. OSU might have won if Luton had played but Gebbia got three games worth of experience in that cauldron
I thought Jefferson looked tentative on many of his runs, almost like he didn’t want contact. I’m not sure he’s totally healthy. I would sure the hell like to hear why Pierce only got four carries. He’s the homerun threat. Weird ending to his career.
man, so many miscues by the beavers today. 3 drops by Bradford, Fumble by Jermar, and a hands to the face to start the game forcing the beavs to kick a field goal instead of getting a touchdown.
Looking forward to a full season of Gebbia and Hayes. Problem is there will be other personnel errors. I’ll write Smith that I’m available as a consultant
This team is going to be pretty good. Really only UW and Utah felt out of our league. They competed and could have won against any other teams on the schedule. Feel like 7 wins is completely within expectations for 2020.
This game honestly felt like this was a chance to give next years players a chance to get game experience. This was a weird game from a personnel and play calling standpoint. It’s almost like Coach Smith Didn’t want to get the win today. The offense and special teams were not polished at all. If it weren’t for the Field Goal and Special Teams giving up a TD, this would be a 14-17 loss. Or if Oregon had made the field goal it would have been 14-20. so the game was closer than what the score board suggested. Still 2 more years until the beavers become relevant.
They were relevant this year. Other than Utah, every team had to slug it into with them. Even ok state. I have to strongly disagree with you unless you live under a rock and somehow have internet then I’ll give you a pass.
I would say Oregon State will be a threat to teams next year where they can’t have performances like the teams have the last 4 games. Relevant as in, they are in contention for the pac-12 title that year. I don’t see them playing for a pac-12 title next year, do you? Ergo, not relevant. I live in Nebraska, once people out here stop giving me grief about how Oregon State is a ‘middle of the road to lower pac-12 team’ then I will say they have become relevant outside the pac-12/NW.
Uncle Phil is a ROI guy; he has to be disappointed in how close these two teams are. I’ll let someone else look up the comparison of ucks season averages vs today against a Beavs team that WILL BE BACK and BETTER.
0regon is paying it’s coaches $800k per win. OSU is paying $1m per win.
Interesting, but obviously not a total picture of the overall investment into the two programs.
We all knew this, but took espn a good long while, they finally released some (tentative, they’ve removed Gebbias at least once) adj qbr for Herbert and Gebbia in the civil war: 52.3 and 78.1 respectively.
Nice in the post-game they called Jefferson out for not following his blockers. Said he missed a huge play. Man that would have been an interesting ending if he had just done that. Decided to be a lone wolf and go right…lone wolves don’t have good prognosis.
How is it dumb? Angry is just pointing out that that the post-game commentators said he didn’t follow the designed play. Who knows what would have happened, but the video pointed to a well-designed screen.
There was no reason not to run the play as it was designed and was being executed. His big hogs were out front and putting hats on motherfuckers. Don’t get cute.
Look out next year!!! Gebbia best qb in the land. Luton with the cowardly no show a perfect exclamation point on his career. Wow what an unbelievable yellow belly move.
Lost the shootout but beavs will regroup fast and the progress will be evident next game.
I didn’t get the disappearing Pierce once again. It still did not look like Jefferson was 100% or else he was very cautious on some of his runs. Pierce ended up with four carries.
Was this possibly the best thing for us long term? Beavs know they’re close but also know what they have to work on vs making a bowl and thinking they’ve arrived.
Leach got a pretty bad Wazzu team to a bowl game in his second year and then they fell back to 3-9 his third season. I know Wazzu fans were livid, but when you are rebuilding from shit it takes time. I think the Beavs will have a similar season next year (5 or 6 wins), maybe catch a break and get to a bowl. The progress needs to keep going for the defense. I think JS will always have some tools on offense.
“Was this possibly the best thing for us long term?”
Interesting take, Rev.
IMHO, Smith will never let his team think they’ve arrived. The part about missing post season that hurts the most is the lost practices which the staff would use very effectively.
possibly, Rev. fact is, Beavs caught UCLA, Cal and Zona with QB issues; that’s not going to happen many years. I think next year’s over/under should be 5
Was this a great performance or am I missing something… wasn’t bad but wasn’t great 0 TD passes? I am hoping this isn’t the future and Oregon just had a good defense
Gebbia “not emotional” appreciated the opportunity and deferred to his teammates………per Jon Warren from locker room.
As always, consider the source, no Ron Callan today as he worked the WBB win in Florida.
Why doesn’t the NCAA allow non bowl teams to have the extra practices that bowl teams get? or Allow non-bowl teams more spring practices?
It seems to be universally agreed that these practices are very useful in developing younger players.
Speaking for myself, I will make an attempt to go to as many Home games As possible next year as well as an away game or two. Knowing they will be competitive in most games, I know it will be a good time. I expect season ticket sales to reflect the effort today/all
Season and the improvement in the win/loss column.
Looks like ducks landed a verbal commitment from that 2021 LB, Keith Brown, out of Lebanon. Highly ranked player nationally, but from local area fans who have seen him, more based on his physical measurables than his play on the field.
Still lame to see a kid in our backyard go down there.
Time for the offseason coaching carousel to get cranking. It’s actually one of the more entertaining parts of college football anymore.
Which team is going to overpay for the next bust?
Will there be any drama over Smith or Cristobal getting offers to move. Will USC land Urban Meyer? Will they try to poach Cristobal if they whiff on Meyer? Will Mike Leach stay at WSU?
Hope the Beavs can keep some stability while the teams around them have to deal with turnover.
What’s disgusting is that there’s a fair chance that no matter if the quacks win or lose the Pac-12 championship game, they’re headed to the Rose Bowl. Yuck.
Beavs finish third in the division; will miss a bowl game because the Pac-12 decided to bar 5-7 teams from going to the post season.
What a stupid decision by the conference, in general. Dumber than playing 9 conference games when not all of the power 5 conferences abide by that practice.
I’m with ya on this one, Rev. Never thought even a .500 record should deserve a bowl, much less 5-7.
Now OTOH, the idea that extra practices should be available to ALL teams makes sense to me.
But, bowls make $ and we must play in the arena in which we find ourselves.
Game experience and additional practices are needed, particularly if the Beavs start the year in Stillwater next season. Probably would break even or worse in a lower tier bowl game.
I still don’t understand why JS didn’t schedule a 13th game. Was he assuming that our players would get injured before conference play?
If you aren’t at least a .500 team, you don’t deserve to be in a bowl game, period. By every definition, the season is a failure if you lose more games than you win.
OSU QB Play:
At the beginning of the season, when OSU coaches said it was an even race between Luton and Gebbia, I thought that was just coach speak and didn’t believe. But now seeing how Gebbia played today, there really wasn’t much of a drop off compared from Luton. The only thing lacking was the in-game reps and timing/chemistry with the players (Hodgins). That kid has legit arm and is a definite threat with his legs. He played a heckuva game considering this was his ONLY significant playing time all season. He WAS the better QB on the field today, period. Almost led a game-tying drive had it not been for some drops / fumble. I’m more than excited for next year.
OSU Defense:
Hats off to the D and Tibesar. The guys are playing with a lot of effort and they’re improving every game. Glad to see them not giving up on plays which has been the norm under previous coaching staffs. I honestly think with Gumbs and some more JC transfers, this D is going to be something to watch. Just love their swagger.
OSU OC:
I think Lindgren is doing above average at his position for most of the calls. I think he could’ve gotten more creative during some of the series, with more motion plays and sweeps. For one of last couple series, we ran 3 straight run plays into the middle of the lines with Jefferson, which was a complete waste. He needs to continue to mix it up. If the Beavs have similar success next year I can definitely see teams wanting to pick him up.
Overall: The Beavs are performed better than I expected this year. We essentially bring a lot of the same group of guys next CW and I think Beavs pull it off if they continue this upward trend.
Actually, there was a significant drop off in the first half as Gebbia couldn’t find Hodgins on three separate occasions and he was wide freaking open. However, given his inexperience, it’s understandable that he had some difficulty finding open receivers. I thought in the second half Gebbia actually looked pretty good but still without your starting QB with 28 TDs, to say it’s not much of a drop off is really not accurate. This team scored 10 points and with Luton, they’ve been averaging 30+ so there was in fact a huge drop off despite Gebbia’s improved play in the second half. QB play wasn’t the only issue though as JJ made incorrect reads especially on the play were he fumbled as the screen was designed to go to the left and had he followed the blockers (where he had three out in front of him) that could have been a huge gain. Instead, he goes to the right and the rest is history. Too bad for Luton as he deserved a much better ending to his college career. The kid was a warrior at OSU and had a great final season. Gebbia looks like he could be pretty good too, but he’ll need to do some extra off season work to develop chemistry with his receivers. The defense improved dramatically over the last 5 games of the season. I think next year we see at least 7 wins and a bowl game if we stay healthy and get some more depth in the program. All in all, a pretty good season given the outlook so I’m optimistic about the future for this program.
As for the Ducks, they are going to get curb stomped by Utah. It’ll be somewhere around 37-17 and it won’t even be that close. Their D-line will dominate the LOS and Oregon’s offense will look even more inept than it was today. Other good news. Ducks lady’s basketball upset by Louisville today….you know they beat a team that is a lock for the national title (LOL).
Never been a fan of Dwight Jaynes, but this piece is worth a read. He concludes this regarding the nikegon organization and it’s hype machine, “…their problem has always been that they’re never quite as good as they think they are. Which may be what’s keeping them from being the very best they can be.”
If Luton plays, OSU wins that game. Frustrating that he wasn’t able to go today. On a positive note, Gebbia looks to have some ability to build off of next year if he wins the job.
Speaking of penalties. Beavs finished 12th in the conference in opponent penalties at 5.1/game. Only Cal averaged less at 4.8/game. Otherwise the Beavs averaged 25% more penalties than their conference opponent despite finishing mid-pac in penalties themselves. So, if you thought they were robbed a bit each week, you’re right.
My criticisms of Tibesar and the defense we’re probably short sighted. D got better over the course of the season. Today was probably their best game of the season (or UW game).
There are some playmakers on that side of the ball.
D line still needs depth to improve pass rush. Defensive backs as well. My biggest gripe for the season? How many 3rd and 7 or more did they allow the opponent to convert? It seemed like a lot.
Offense…….Gebbia showed something today. First career start. Civil war. On the road. Kid did alright. I think we’ll be fine. If Hodgins returns a 1-2 of him and Bradford can be deadly.
O line needs to drastically improve run blocking. Play calling on runs also. Doesn’t seem like much creativity there.
Special teams…..Flemings should not be returning kicks. A stiff breeze is enough to knock him down. I don’t care how fast he is.
Next season? I expect at least 6 wins and a bowl game. Training wheels are off for Smith. No excuses.
Im still pissed about not punting at the end of the WSU game.
Just liked up our recruiting class and commits on 247sports.com and beavers are ranked currently at 57 with 15 3* commits. 2 SDE JUCO and 2 CB JUCO players. So our defense will be just as good if not better next year. The other 11 recruits are high school commits.
Isaiah Newell ATH 6-3 215 lbs (LB? TE? WR?)
Zeriah Beason WR
John Miller ILB
Junior Walling ILB
Ben Gulbranson QB
Jake Overman TE
Cooper Darling OG
Silas Bolden WR
Shane Kady WDE
Trevor Pope ATH 6-1 165 lbs (WR? RB? CB?)
Tommy Spencer TE
DT will always be a need. Having an anchor they is at or above 300 is pretty useful. At this point we just need talent in this class. Next year we will absolutely need OLine, Dline, Safety, a Rb, a QB, a Kicker, and some OLB.
Also have that DE from the SEC, Charles Moore who transferred in. And possibly Gumbs, depending on his rehab. Probably cant count on him being available to start the year.
Other needs: transfer QB, more Safety and CB depth and possibly a transfer WR depending on what Hodgins does. Long snapper and transfer kicker could potentially take spots if they land the guys they want.
Hayes is looking good. If he maintains, they should be set at PK for the next three years. Not sure how strong his leg is for kickoffs? I’m assuming not great since they stayed with Choukair? They need to find a talented safety through the JC/Transfer Portal route. Anyone hear anything on Morris? It didn’t look good.
I thought Rodriguez had a solid year. Seems the staff, aside from sticking with a player too long, helped him improve. Coverage units on the other hand…
Thanks to NiceBeaver for hosting the CBS poll. Hope that continues next season and that more ab’s will set up accounts with their ab handle, and, let’s disqualify that kid Jacob!
It was fun, thanks for participating. I’m not sure if they have more games this week and through bowl season. Haven’t checked, but we may not be finished.
I’ll try to keep these pools going whenever CBS hosts them.
I think i said i would mail the winner one of my 2018 OSU baseball “National Champions” poster.
So what do you think for next year? Should I set up an entry fee where we play for a small pool? Something like $2 or maybe $5 buy in, winner takes the pot? Or top 2 split the pot?
Would probably have to set up a beavrecruiting venmo acct and use screenshots of the account balance for transparency. Also it’s probably technically illegal, but i’m not sure who would care if, we kept the group small.
(Uncle sam would care, but maybe if the entry fee isnt directly tied to winnings there could be some wiggle room?)
Maybe people could donate to the pool and entry is free. That might be legal since it would be a “contest” but I’m not a lawyer or anything so who knows
One thing to consider for next season, a plus 10 TO margin is not likely to happen again. To only get five wins with that number is not great. The defense is really going to have to continue the improvement or six wins will be tougher. Turnovers by the offense are likely to return to the mean, so other areas have to get better. I’m not counting on only six for an entire season again unless Smith has some magic coaching for ball security.
On the flip side, I’d be willing to bet that we improve in forcing turnovers. OSU ranked 75th in the country with 18 this year. With an improved pass rush and better secondary play, we should be in the high to mid twenties.
High twenties is a bit ambitious. Mid twenties would be amazing with an improvement to the low twenties great. Just hoping they keep the turnover differential, 12 and top 10 in the country, the same or better.
NCAA has The Beavs with 16 forced, 6 committed (best in the nation) for the season. Tied for tenth best in margin. Might be hard to repeat that number.
This was a down year for much of the Pac12, so I would expect the other teams to improve as well. Hopefully the Beavs can win 2 non con games, but winning 4 in conference isn’t going to be a cake walk.
I don’t know what the official rankings are. Looks like this was the ESPN “bracketologist” who ranked them #1.
Have no idea if they’ve ever been there, but the UConns and Baylors of the world have dominated past seasons.
Yesterday, #1 oregon amd #2 Baylor both lost. And Beavs have a couple top 20 wins already this year, by large margins. Still way early too.
I think that’s a #1 for the early tournament bracket. So they are 1 out of 4 #1s. They replaced stanford about 2 weeks ago in the power rankings.
But I may be wrong.
I’ll come in later,,,,don’t want to be #1.
Dude I was lurking around so I could be number 1 and you beat me to it
It’s yours man…. Merry Christmas!
Can I get an autographed piece of memorabilia as well?
Underrated comment.
Go beavs!
I’m praying everything good about this team comes together in this single game.
I believe Jermar, AP, Noah, and Hodgins will all have big games today. The run defense has gotten better the last 4 games. If they play like they did against UW, they will keep us in the game today. GO BEAVS
Beavers 45 – Ucks 38
Fir……st…….damn it!
My hope is the Beavs come out and play the game of their lives.
My fear is Luton gets hit a few times and folds and starts throwing the ball up for grabs.
My other fear is the ucks running the ball over the top of us with very little resistance.
Hopefully because we are playing for a bowl we show up and the ucks don’t.
WBB, good 3rd/4th qtr makes the difference (along with Pivec), good gals win 68-55.
This pregame show is just the PAC 12 network kissing the ducks ass. Barf!
Godspeed beavs, give ‘em hell and don’t give up!
When a good team meets an aspiring, developing team the better team wins. The Ducks have a lot more and just need to use it. I think it will look like the UW-WSU game last night. Cougars just couldn’t hang in the long run. Ducks win 48-24.
Pregame Civil War haiku:
Beavers fight green men
Play football wisely today
0regon fans leave sad
Seniors gotta step up, don’t make this their last game in college. Win and extend the season!
Gebbia getting the start
Wow kill the messenger
this is what we’ve been waiting for all year boys!
Gebbia time!
yeah baby!
Gebbia is starting
Wow, Luton hurt. Will not play in civil war.
Angry’s chance to rule the roost!!!
Gebbia getting the start?
Holy shit Gebbia is starting
What’s the injury? I doubt smith is benching Luton now. Wow
Luton hurt is arm last week. Smith did a good job of keeping that a secret
Angry gets his wish. Gebbia starting.
Those O’line men are going to be sore after getting drilled in the back all day by his passes. No Cinderella story today.
Wait what? What’s wrong with luton?
Hurt his arm vs WSU. Did not heal in time.
Gluton Free.
Gebbia starting his first game in the Civil War? This is like the AB dream scenario.
I would have preferred he got the yips out before this game but whatever. Mcm almost pulled it off once.
McM did pull it off
Not his first start he didnt.
I thought you meant his first civil war
no kidding. If The Beavs win this one with Gebbia as QB Angry will be “king of the world”!
PBH out…. see ya’ll post game. Good luck.
I was able to activate internet seconds before kickoffs. Giddy up
I hope our backup QB is as good as Angry thinks he is
Is Mike Riley calling plays for Oregon?
yes, because the home team crowd is booing already
you can already see the improved run defense
Interesting drama with the Luton injury. Defense being able to compete for the duration feels like the x factor but tough circumstances for the offense/Gebbia. Godspeed.
Bend but don’t break D… They won’t be able to keep it up. We will need to score on every drive. Let’s see what Gebbia can do.
Held them to a field goal, bend but don’t break defense showing up early
Epitome of bend don’t break right there. Nice work.
Just tuned in. Have Beavs has a possession yet?
Outcome?
No Ducks had a long drive that’s it
In this circumstance (starter out etc), IF (and it’s a big IF) OSU wins this game, it would go right to the top of all time CW wins.
Is there a bigger douche on the college football sideline then the duck handlebar mustache dummie.
“It’s ironic and junk” -millenial duck fan
Dial up some roll-outs and QB keepers!!! If Gebbia goes down he’s got all offseason to heal – screw the Cheeze-It bowl too!
speed on the roll out, that’s what WE’re talking about
Gebbia looking great early!
first bad throw. a little high
What a terrible spot on that Bradford run
Keep the updates coming, I have to miss the beginning.
clutch throw
Wait, how was that Bradford run spotted short?
What happened to Luton? Missed that
Injured forearm. Ruled out early in the week as Gebbia’s been preparing as starter since Tuesday. Interesting how they were able to keep it under wraps.
That’s impressive. Closed practice for the win.
Ah totally missed that…moving in a historic blizzard.
Nobody knew. I guess he was injured at WSU.
Damn, that Cordasco penalty kills that drive
Luton hurt forearm at WSU
Gebbia looks calm and collected out there.
Dammit penalty on the TD rum
tough break on the penalty. killed the drive. time for Hayes to step up
Gebbia quarterbacking, Hayes kicking; this is Nirvana
That hands to face penalty and refs turning a blind-eye to roughing on Gebbia sucks.
unnecessary roughing the passer for flipping gebbia on his head.
Left 4 pts on the field :(
Still not a horrible start
Spoke too soon!
defense holds the Ucks to a field goal after oregon gets a yard on a 4th down redzone run.
I love having a kicker!
We have a kicker who can make a field goal?
Should have been a roughing the passer call on Gebbia’s last pass.
Fucking Choukair short kickoff. Just like someone predicted in the last thread. Dumb
Was going to say, oregon has been getting away with late hits on QBs and out of bounds all season. True to form, it’s already part of today’s game.
Final someone who doesnt give me ulcers when they kick field goals.
Gebbia looks equal to Luton so far. Making good decisions with time and a few good improv plays. Lost us some yards with inaccuracy.
One starting drive vs 3 years of attempts doesnt not equate.
You must have missed where I said “so far.”
Settle down, Francis.
he just needs to settle down
Did we rehire Bruce Read?
Choucair (sp) the short kick, as predicted in the last thread.
chouikair looked like he was blocked in the back as he was leaping to make a play. so no flag thrown
shades of 2001
Damn. Can’t give those up if they expect to stay in it. Lot’s of pressure on Gebbia/Offense to put together a good TD drive in response.
Choukair’s failure to get it into the end zone bites us again. wow.
Wow, Pac12 announcer literally jerking Herbert off as they go to commercial smh.
We’d have two more wins if smith realized Hayes was the better kicker from day 1.
maybe Hayes wasn’t the better kicker earlier in the season, but as the season went on, Hayes got better? It’s hard to tell with practices being closed.
Smith was going the seniority route. Hopefully he learned a career-long lesson. put your best guys on the field.
IMO Smith has been ultra-conservative across the board with personnel moves as a remedy to the toxic culture he walked in on taking over for Anderpants. He’s spoke a lot the last two seasons about “building trust”, and I think he’d prioritized establishing a healthy culture with his players over a cut-throat meritocracy, which is what many fans seem to prefer. As this season has drawn on we’ve seen a changing of the guard as some of those warts have been demoted and even transferred out (Choker/Hicks-onu), and others have emerged out of obscurity to take a bunch of minutes (Riley Sharp). There’s arguments to the merits of both those approaches, but it’s also pretty clear that JS has been successful at building a healthy relationship with the locker-room and has continued to get great buy-in and effort.
is cut-throat meritocracy better or worse than favoritism?
Frick let’s hope that doesn’t happen again. They gotta play great in all aspects of the game in order to pull off the win
Well more rest for our defense I guess.
Bradford is capable of that kind of KO return, haven’t seen him back for KO’s today.
Where is Bruce Reed when we need him.
Tim Euhus tweeting @angry, haha. You’re famous
https://twitter.com/EuhusBeaver/status/1200890000553865216?s=19
Gebbia quick and accurate to start second drive
Did the ref just say “Play cock”?
Beavs are doing everything necessary to lose the game…
That 3rd down play by the beavs with the motion man getting the ball was very obvious. need to disguise that better or not use a set up play on a 3rd down.
Was just talking to my brother about what a terrible play call that was.
Oregon’ s strong run D will force Lindgren/Gebbia into some keepers. At that point it will get REAL interesting.
Nice play by Dunn to break up that pass
Just caught up. Gebbia whaattt?!?! Hayes for Groza?!?! Ouch Penalties! Why isn’t AP running?
Saving him for the second half?
Jermar is a stronger runner and that has plagued the ducks this season
D showed up today
BG should be enjoying his snow game right now with Wisconsin in town. 7-3 Gophers in the 2nd quarter.
Offense needs to put up some points while the D is helping out. I really doubt it’s going to last all game.
Gebbia needs to run on a keeper. loosen up that UO D
The run game hasn’t been there except for 2-3 yards. too many passes thus far.
Gebbia was a tick slow on the decision to run. If he tucks a tick earlier it’s a big gainer.
Yeah this is why I dont get excited for the Civil War anymore
What the hell’s wrong with Rodrigez. No distance.
it’s cold, so the ball is hard as a rock.
Offense has no flow. Pierce looked to be looking for the ground.
Honestly seems like he and Jefferson have been doing that for awhile, both just trying to stay healthy and not playing as hard as they used too…
Maybe for the draft with Pierce.
I bet Jefferson declares.
He old enough?
or the sideline
wow, our special teams is the opposite of special. We’d be better off going for it on 4th down instead of punting. well, that hands to the face penalty really hurt us.
This games over.
Loss squarely on coverage units. We found a new way to lose.
I’ve said that a lot this season just to see this team come back. Aren’t the ducks more a first half team? Well, the beavs aren’t necessarily a second half team.
plus js going for it on 4th 3 at 49. WTF….
probably right. needed that early momentum to build confidence. Kick return for TD was a gut punch
I guess now we know why we did not bother to punt last weekend.
Wisconsin just went ahead 10-7 over BG
Welp, Beavs are going to need a miracle to prevent the blowout. No offense, no defense, bad special teams = no win.
Maybe Herbert will start throwing picks?
Gebbia’s mobility is nice.
He looked about as fast as skinny Luton there.
not really. Luton wouldn’t have made it to the sticks.
Do we ever throw out of the pistol?
In other news, the fighting Ionescu’s just lost. . .so there’s that.
So many drops. Receivers aren’t used to catching spirals. Lol
Again with the extra aggressiveness out of bounds bit no call
another missed penalty. Gebbia’s first bad throw on 4th
Bring back Luton
What is the fuck was that?
How is that not a late hit out of bounds? Officiating very suspect.
Beavs aren’t going to get any calls in this match up
That fourth down throw was pure dog shit
Terrible. We need some nasty defense right here. Make a play to get some momentum.
The slot receiver on the left side needs to do a shallow wheel route while the outside receiver does an inside slant. There is no one within 8 yards of the slot receiver and Oregon is playing man coverage.
Why are we going for it there. That’s just stupid.
Bradford needs another year
and better hands
Good thing Gebbia playing.. he’s light years better than Luton
i know right as the 28-3 td ti picks was just average at best.
Just ask Angry.. he’s been calling for Gebbia to play all season
Gebbia’s first start is better than Luton’s first start. Case closed.
Better than Luton’s first 10 starts!
Combined
Bradford needs to catch balls that literally bounce off his chest
give him a chance. I mean, Luton’s had what, 20 games to get to be a .333 QB?
Im just being sarcastic.. almost all season angry has said how Luton wasnt D-1 QB.. only really gave him some good credit after ASU game
The play call was worse.
OK so far- Penalty nullfied TD
Special teams suck
Receivers have dropped 2 passes
Running backs not running hard
All = blow out in the making
This reminds me of when GA put McMaryon in at Michigan
Gebbia locked in on Lindsey there and missed Pierce opening up some space in the flat where he probably could have converted. Good on the D to get a stop tho.
Oregon is out-classing them physically a-la Washington (and Utah of course), especially on the line-of-scrimmage. They’ve got to find a way to settle down and get the ball moving somehow on offense, even if it’s scrappy. Otherwise yucks will really run away with it as they’ve got a lot more Offense than Washington did.
Both C’s for the Beavs have seen time today, adds to the pressure on Gebbia.
If Gebbia had gotten some actual game time playing in games when OSU had no shot at winning, his tuck and run decision-making would be crisper. He’s got a good “clock” but it’s still just a tick slow.
No better trial by fire I suppose. Be interesting to see if he’s able to keep his head in the game of if they implode.
Well, I wanted Gebbia to have a structured role, check this site, and he’s starting…
Offense is out of sync.
Also Oregon is playing well on D. Taking away everything they want to do (Hodgins) and also not giving up much of anything else.
Run AP.
They’re making it tough with just their guys up front (a-la Washington/Utah)
I. Hodgins was open for a shovel pass on the 3rd down as Gebbia was approaching the line of scrimmage. The beavs are being completely over matched/out coached this half big time.
Cristobal is the Anti-Smith. As conservative as aggressive as Smith is.
Defense has actually did ok. Special teams have killed us and offense is struggling with dropped passes and penalties.
Play calling is questionable as well.
Beavers need to go full back and two TE sets because that was our best run play all game long.
Play calling is suspect
I suspect that they don’t want Gebbia to run many keepers since they don’t have another qb to go to
Dumb play call on third down
The defense has really improved this year. So different then last year. We are almost average now
it’s okay. It’s good enough to give the offense to show its stuff; which it does intermittently
Tibs boys lookin’ better than OK, considering the offense they are facing, but not getting much rest so far.
Does Luton somehow start the second half and we get the Luton we saw at Nevada and Colorado last year?
not unless Luton’s arm magically has healed. This isn’t “The Replacements” here. Nice to see the defense playing well.
so another game where the D is holding their own and the lack of offensive productivity is dispositive.
How many times is this moron announcer gonna say cold air expands?
At least 10 more
How is the fuck is Herbert considered an NFL 1st round draft pick? Every time I watch the guy he is average at best.
swoosh
I haven’t been paying a ton of attention but it seems like he has played his way into a late first rounder
I’ve never heard of “expanded balls “ being a problem before.
Filled.with magical air that expands when cold
It isnt.
I’ve never heard that cold expands…does that mean heat contracts? The announcer is an idiot. The balls harden and the air condenses in the footballs.
The air pressure should be the same regardless of temp since the balls are inflated on the field to specifications. The football material though gets stiffer with the colder temps make the ball harder.
It’s not like a car tire? You fill up a car tire with the same outdoor temp and the more you drive, the air in the tire warms up and then contracts when it cools down, causing the tire to deflate, right? Well, a football never truly warms up and is the air being pumped into the football warm or cold air? Yes, the leather on the football gets harder and the cold air in the football condenses or compresses since the air pumps are not air compressors.
Elephantiasis would give ya some expanded balls
Interesting how if Oregon hadn’t of ran back the kickoff and Beavers had gotten a TD instead of a field goal, this game would be a 3 point game.
What the hell was Smith thinking with Luton all year?? Angry was right! Gebbia is exactly what our Offense was missing
So you’ll come shit talk all next year about how bad gebbia is?
I hope not, because that would suck to have people shit talking about how bad the quarterback is all year.
Hi!
Gebbia starting and only 1 target to Hodgins. This site should be happy.
What was the ineligible receiver downfield call on Bradford?
I didnt hear an explanation
obviously bradford was covered and on the line of scrimmage?
If I go outside to get the mail will my balls expand and ruin my pants?
No. Pressure will decrease because of cold. Then your reinflate and get heavy balls. Take an energy drink with you to be sure to return.
Elephantiasis would give ya some expanded balls
So, Luton has gotten EVERY (and I mean EVERY) opportunity to show what he can do and improve his game over the course of THREE seasons, but there will guys in here criticizing Gebbia for a lack of polish starting his first game, in the Civil War no less, on the road. It’ll probably end up like poor Gundy back in 05, with the Ducks running up the score, but it won’t be because Luton was the right call for QB when the season began.
You’re still trying to play this card?
Yachtsman talks logic; preacher dogmatically fails to exhibit reason.
Please expand? Somehow the QB with 28 TD passes would not perform better than the backup in this game? But when Gebbia plays mediocre it’s again Luton’s fault for taking all the reps. The depths you all go to avoid acknowledging being wrong is comical. And where is Angry? Probably calling his host provider to register the domain delusionalbeavs.com
Doesn’t matter what the UNAVAILABLE QB would or could do; point is JS should have given Gebbia game reps which were available in order to better prepare him for what Beavs face today.
I see you’re deleting posts also. A true AngryBeav.
Play calling is absolute dog shit. From my couch I can literally call every play we do.
Trying to protect Gebbia. Just open it up and let’s see what happens. Oregon knows what’s coming and it actually is detrimental to Gebbia.
Went to a coffee shop to get away from this crap football and of course they have the game on. Sigh.
What’s annoying is that if not for 2 boneheaded plays (hands to face and kick return TD) it’s a 10-7 game. This is no playoff caliber team beavs are facing, not even close.
Hey man… leave me out of this. I had nothing to do with those.
Regarding Gebbia…he’s played fine for a first start. Not great or awful. Coaches not giving him much with the play calling and seem to be trying to protect him. If they open things up I’d like to see the flow. Considering it’s his first start he’s been fine to good…promising for the future.
I sure hope you are right.
Does not help having the ball start behind the 10 yard line for the last two drives can’t open it up much from your own end zone.
All I know is, Luton wouldn’t be at positive yards right now if he were in the game. Meaning, how many sacks would we have right now instead of getting positive yards? With that said, Gebbia is trying to do too much with his legs; when he tucks and runs, he doesn’t keep his eyes downfield. He looks where he’s running instead of looking for the open receiver. Bradford having 2 legit drops doesn’t help either, but then again, how has the chemistry been between Gebbia and his receivers all season compared to Luton and the receivers? Those two things are the difference makers. Gebbia also has tapped his chest 2-3 times in the first half after a bad pass. We need to find a way to get Hodgins the ball. I see our defense getting tired and wearing down in the second half. Luckily we get the ball to start the second half. We come out and score, we’re right back in this thing.
Who has improved more as a qb over their career, Herbert or Luton? Defense is playing great. Morris with a pass break up and they may have held them to 3.
Neither offense has been productive today. Cold weather does seem to be a factor.
ducks with 163 yards of offense to Beavs 159.
Pretty even game in that regard. Special team have been the killer with poor field position and the kick off returned for a TD.
Tough game get a first start, but opportunities are there
Jermar doesn’t seem to be the downhill runner he was last year. Put AP in and let him go.
Awful lot of Badger fans at Minnesota.
Gebbia another tip. Concerning.
Too bad, really would have liked to see this game with Luton playing. Receivers are open.
As a Gebbia booster I actually agree with this. it’s too bad Gebbia didnt’ get more reps when there wasn’t as much at stake
I waffle a bit between if we should have given him the 2nd half of the Utah game or if that would have killed him.
Hodgins needs to quit pouting
True. But when you’re the best player on O and you have been open…
Fleck’s boat sinking. Probably full of expanded balls due to snow storm.
Might need to bring in a few more qbs, gebbia is not good.
Yeah yeah you know after one start.
Give him 30 games like luton needed.
Ducks D is very good. Luton sucked big time against similar D with UW and Utah. Don’t get to compare his stats against Cal Poly to age biz against Oregon. This is a Top 25 D.
*Gebbia
This feels like knock out punch time.
Their knockout punch landed with a limp wrist.
Beavs still alive, somehow
It might be time for David Morris to retire. I hate seeing the kid hurt so often.
We need a momentum changing play…
Tough blow for Morris. Guy can’t keep his feet healthy. This looks like another pretty bad foot injury. Last one took him out for nearly 2 years
Morris out for spring… bet that’s a broken ankle.
He needs to retire
they said minor ankle sprain on the radio
Morris may return today, ankle sprain. Per sideline report
Announcer said Ham is going in the draft? This is PAC 12 so I can’t just believe them
Is it possible Ducks kicker worse than Choukair?
Pretty sure he’s a freshman.
Yep
Herbert looks pedestrian to me, their FG kicker less than that.
Bend but don’t break D strikes again.
Called that week 3.
Watch for Ducks to change OC’s next year. This guy (Arroyo) is underachieving.
The D is so much better than last year just based on the eye test. Offense has to give them a chance tho.
Once play. Once throw.
The only thing Luton has on gebbia is chemistry with the reviewers. Had gebbia been starting he probably have that too
*receivers
It’s hard to tell because this is another one of those games where the OL gets dominated so our offense does nothing.
Our OL is actually looking MUCH MUCH better than against UW or Utah. We have run the ball decently and gebbia has time.
KIPPER!!!
I don’t know how players could have any idea what taunting/excessive celebration is. Thibedeaux with the army crawl after a defensive play is totally cool in the middle of the field, and Johnson with the little Lord of the Dance move after his TD earlier.
I’m fine with those being ok, but don’t call some bullshit excessive celebration after a TD later if the Beavs players get in the end zone.
(Kipper is going to make sure we don’t find out though)
Kipper strikes again
Freaking Kipper again
False start coming out of a timeout leading to having to punt. Rileyesque!
Yikes, I’ve had to turn off the audio with all the Herbert jerkin.
This game is over now.
via GIPHY
We need a turnover
Nice win for the gophers, BG
Oops misread that one earlier! Yikes.
Props to our defense. So much better this year.
Why dont we ever get the first start player that makes player of the week?
We never get to play against our own defense
Or special teams.
Now that’s what I like about Gebbia
Gebbia looking more comfortable running now. Ducks won’t have game planned a QB spy so we need more of that.
Let’s go!
Great drive. Defense needs to keep finding a way.
There we go Beavs. No reason you can’t pull this out.
Nuke set!
No quit in Gebbia. Like his attitude.
No quit in these Beavs!
Jefferson! TD!!!
This ought to be competitive next year and in the coming years. I’m not watching, but from what I see hear sounds like the D is holding its own. The D ought to be pretty good next year.
Onsides??……..naw, not with our D and 11 minutes
Great series by the offense. Gebbia looking good and his legs were a real threat.
Way too much 10 year old Herbert coverage during this game.
Penn State approves
D needs a stop here
would rather have a short kickoff to an up man than a 98 yard return.
open field tackles are so nice to see by this defense
Arnold has come out of nowhere to have a nice game
Not calling holds this game I see.
Need a turnover here
If you were a P12 ref, you’d know: Ducks can’t hold.
herbert’s hand is bleeding. too bad dunn is hurt too. would have forced oregon to call a timeout. defense needs to flex and get a turnover.
Looked like a fumble into the end zone.
Beav ball.
that’s a fumble in the endzone! Beavers ball on touchback!
If that’s not a fumble, I’m not a Luton homer.
Most true thing you’ve ever said.
Ball left his hand before hitting the post. Should be ruled a touchback. Amazing luck if they call it right
Lol. Good on ya rev
That is a fumble
that’s a touchback
At least we know the Pac-12 refs will get it right.
That’s a touchback
That’s a touchback.
Darrell Catchings 2.0.
We have a ball game.
Is it getting reviewed?
Yes!!!!!!!
boom!!! now tie this game up and get the win!
Hodgins needs new cleats.
If you score a TD go for two
Yep
Let’s do this Gebbia
Why did we get the wrong cleats for this turf?
Special nike slick paint, designed to activate only in the cold civil war weather
Nike
Slips, trips and falls were the biggest nemeses this game. Swear someone sprayed silicone lube on the Beavs cleats.
Would love to see a Pierce speed bust on this drive
Has AP had even one snap today?
kipper down with an injury.
I take back one of the bad things I’ve ever said about P12 refs.
Come on BEAVS, do it for the hole in my roof!!!!!!!!!!!
Play calling reminiscent of the last drive vs WSU.
Minnesota lost 38-17 but our man BeeG should have a nice bowl game to go to in Florida.
Could reeeeeeally use those 4 points lost on that hands to the face penalty right now!
bradford now with 3 legit drops. that ball was thrown right on the money! ugh I’m missing Timmy Hernandez right about now.
how many is bradford going to drop jesus
And he picked this game to be his 4th…
How is that no PI?
no kidding….also why would we throw short of the chains to Jermar. that’s the game
That’s a terrible effort by Jefferson.
Have to break that tackle and/or lunge.
I wanted Pierce to start this game. Jefferson does not look like the years past.
I think pierce should have started over Nall two years ago. It’s been that way his whole career at OSU
yea something seems off with him
It took Pierce time to get back to his old self after the elbow injury. Probably the same thing.
Tough drop by Bradford and some yikes play-calling.
Jefferson wasn’t strong enough. That would have been a great spot for a Gebbia keeper
Now we really need a turnover.
That’s on JJ. Has to be at the chains.
cristobal has the decision to make that smith had last week
So he’s punting right?
man this defense has so much better contain on the edges than in years past.
Arnold with another nice stop.
2:22 seconds at the 15 yard line. 85 yards to go for a TD.
God, these announcers with the Herbert live fest….
Time for Gebbia to become an instant legend.
The fatal hurdle….
Not JJ’s best game…
Jefferson again. At least it was max effort.
Rather have his brain on max-ball security in that situation tho.
well, there goes the game thanks to Jermar not taking as much as he could get on a 2nd down screen; and now he’s hurt himself on that play.
Seth Collins’s ghost ends our season
This team is so stupid and frustrating! How many times can you come so close and do stupid things to lose?
Gebbia is going to be awesome after another camp.
Should dominate the league next year.
Agreed. First full game of Gebbia on the biggest stage and he impresses me for the circumstances. Goodbye Luton.
in some ways he outplayed Herbert
wow. Jefferson had a terrible game. too bad. valiant effort by the Beavs. OSU might have won if Luton had played but Gebbia got three games worth of experience in that cauldron
You can take every scramble away if Luton starts, maybe replace with some completions for batted balls…?
I thought Jefferson looked tentative on many of his runs, almost like he didn’t want contact. I’m not sure he’s totally healthy. I would sure the hell like to hear why Pierce only got four carries. He’s the homerun threat. Weird ending to his career.
Agree with this, and AP is the better pass blocker too.
Why didn’t he follow the three blockers and pick up 20!
Was wondering that…
He’d still be running if he’d have followed his blockers to the left.
Hate players leaving their feet on a run.
it was a screen pass and as a RB you should never leave your feet.
Yeah I know it was a screen, the point being unless you’re going up to catch a ball, if you are running, dont leave your got damn feet
How stupid do you have to be to try and hurdle a guy when you already have the first down? Just truck him or go down.
Damn. I was feeling good about my Ducks -7 prediction. Beavs can’t even deliver that.
man, so many miscues by the beavers today. 3 drops by Bradford, Fumble by Jermar, and a hands to the face to start the game forcing the beavs to kick a field goal instead of getting a touchdown.
Bad recruits vs good recruits…
That’s what it looks like.
These announcers for fucks sake
Jefferson is an idiot. Wanted to make a highlight reel and goes down like a fool. He’s the new Choukair.
New Choukair? Let’s not go crazy now…
‘Model your life after number 10’?
Wtf
A season of what ifs. At least Gebbia is going to be good. He already outplayed Justin “Messiah” Herbert is his first career start.
Also Arnold stepped in and played a good game. And whoever replaced Kipper was not a liability.
“What if” sums up the season.
Gebbias mechanics are incredible.
Natural leader. He hates to lose you can see it.
That’s the truth
Came here to say this. Mechanics are very compact
The season went too fast. I hate to see it end. I enjoyed the most out of the last 6 years.
It
“I enjoyed it the most out of the last 6 years.”
That’s an indictment on the last 6 years, if anything. I’m kind of relieved it’s over!
dux are overrated. As usual.
And they still beat us, as usual!
You can’t claim that’s the 6th best team in the country
14th? :P
Yeah, not that either, or the beavs are closer than we think
With top 10
Recruiting classes. Our 76th ranked junk with a second string qb have them a fight. Proud to be a beaver.
Is it just me or does it seem like non bowl teams should get a few extra practices to use in spring or something?
It would be a way to level the playing field. They need to do something it’s become an unwatchable sport.
Non-bowl teams should be required to practice double.
Looking forward to a full season of Gebbia and Hayes. Problem is there will be other personnel errors. I’ll write Smith that I’m available as a consultant
This team is going to be pretty good. Really only UW and Utah felt out of our league. They competed and could have won against any other teams on the schedule. Feel like 7 wins is completely within expectations for 2020.
Ducks are not good. Beavs could have had this game but for a couple of miscues.
Next year looks promising
This game honestly felt like this was a chance to give next years players a chance to get game experience. This was a weird game from a personnel and play calling standpoint. It’s almost like Coach Smith Didn’t want to get the win today. The offense and special teams were not polished at all. If it weren’t for the Field Goal and Special Teams giving up a TD, this would be a 14-17 loss. Or if Oregon had made the field goal it would have been 14-20. so the game was closer than what the score board suggested. Still 2 more years until the beavers become relevant.
They were relevant this year. Other than Utah, every team had to slug it into with them. Even ok state. I have to strongly disagree with you unless you live under a rock and somehow have internet then I’ll give you a pass.
I would say Oregon State will be a threat to teams next year where they can’t have performances like the teams have the last 4 games. Relevant as in, they are in contention for the pac-12 title that year. I don’t see them playing for a pac-12 title next year, do you? Ergo, not relevant. I live in Nebraska, once people out here stop giving me grief about how Oregon State is a ‘middle of the road to lower pac-12 team’ then I will say they have become relevant outside the pac-12/NW.
Gebbia has the “it” factor. Just needs experience and got a bunch today
Uncle Phil is a ROI guy; he has to be disappointed in how close these two teams are. I’ll let someone else look up the comparison of ucks season averages vs today against a Beavs team that WILL BE BACK and BETTER.
0regon is paying it’s coaches $800k per win. OSU is paying $1m per win.
Interesting, but obviously not a total picture of the overall investment into the two programs.
Damn
Expecting 5 wins or less next year. We have one QB and some key players leaving. Could get uglier.
Gebbia is on par with Luton. My only worry is losing the OL starters.
And Hodgins
The oline has been a solid cohesive unit but we need some real monsters
Only real concern I have is offensive line
This team is a lot closer than I thought they would be when Smith got hired. Not perfect by any means, but we are competitive now.
Those of you who got blocked by the spam software as being bots should be approved now. Sorry I missed it earlier.
Thanks Angry
I guess we know who your real
Friends are.
thanks, Angry. And thanks again for running this site. it’s a nice community.
Heisman for Gebbia next year for sure. Beavs need to start the campaign now! :)
Worked for me!
116 rating 65% completion for his first start on the road in a rivalry game. Not bad IMO. Better stats than Herbert
And the Ducks D ranks as one of the best in the conference. Pretty close to Utah’s.
We all knew this, but took espn a good long while, they finally released some (tentative, they’ve removed Gebbias at least once) adj qbr for Herbert and Gebbia in the civil war: 52.3 and 78.1 respectively.
I will be a Ute the next few weeks!
Nice in the post-game they called Jefferson out for not following his blockers. Said he missed a huge play. Man that would have been an interesting ending if he had just done that. Decided to be a lone wolf and go right…lone wolves don’t have good prognosis.
Dumb retrospective criticism. He still cut back and had a nice 10 yard gain. The hurdle was unnecessary, but the whole thing was just bad luck.
How is it dumb? Angry is just pointing out that that the post-game commentators said he didn’t follow the designed play. Who knows what would have happened, but the video pointed to a well-designed screen.
There was no reason not to run the play as it was designed and was being executed. His big hogs were out front and putting hats on motherfuckers. Don’t get cute.
I just rewatched that play. It was dumb not to follow his blockers. He might have broken that for a td. At least they would have been around midfield.
we should have punted there. :)
JS said that? I’m playing in the snow with my dogs now, missed post game
No the PAC-12 guys.
Utah will practice twice, without pads, this week to get ready for the Ducks after they watch the tape on this one.
Is Utah gonna make the CFP with Bama’s loss? Not sure that’s good or bad for us lol.
Look out next year!!! Gebbia best qb in the land. Luton with the cowardly no show a perfect exclamation point on his career. Wow what an unbelievable yellow belly move.
Lost the shootout but beavs will regroup fast and the progress will be evident next game.
“Luton with the cowardly no show” – what the hell are you talking about?
Guy came back from a freaking broken back… yea… coward. Get real.
I think he’s being sarcastic
No, hes being a dip shit.
nope
Why no Pearce? Jefferson was not good today. Bradford was even worse.
I didn’t get the disappearing Pierce once again. It still did not look like Jefferson was 100% or else he was very cautious on some of his runs. Pierce ended up with four carries.
Was this possibly the best thing for us long term? Beavs know they’re close but also know what they have to work on vs making a bowl and thinking they’ve arrived.
No. If going .500 makes them think they’ve arrived, things are REALLY in trouble!
Yep,
Thought, the extra practices for Geb would have been nice
It would, but he will be fine. Just hope he doesn’t transfer. High GPA guy like McM…
he sounded fully committed to the program in his post game interview.
Leach got a pretty bad Wazzu team to a bowl game in his second year and then they fell back to 3-9 his third season. I know Wazzu fans were livid, but when you are rebuilding from shit it takes time. I think the Beavs will have a similar season next year (5 or 6 wins), maybe catch a break and get to a bowl. The progress needs to keep going for the defense. I think JS will always have some tools on offense.
“Was this possibly the best thing for us long term?”
Interesting take, Rev.
IMHO, Smith will never let his team think they’ve arrived. The part about missing post season that hurts the most is the lost practices which the staff would use very effectively.
Smith needs to arrive, too.
Guy has to look in the mirror this off season and learn.
He seems to have enough humility to realize there is room for improvement… But I guess we will see
I would have loved to have been on this board, or afterwards, if the Beavs had scored and then went for two. Who says Smith would have gone for it?
possibly, Rev. fact is, Beavs caught UCLA, Cal and Zona with QB issues; that’s not going to happen many years. I think next year’s over/under should be 5
I hope a booster is delivering a suitcase of cash to Hodgins right now
his post game interview showed considerable regard for Gebbia. there’s a chance, I suppose,
Guys on Twitter are pretending Gebbia is bad. Lol
Seriously?
Yes go read.
*eye roll*
Well if he’s so bad, they better not be sunshine pumping the team next year because he’s the best QB we have!
Oh next year they’ll all predict 9 wins and claim he’s the savior (only if I sour in him)….
Its awfully quiet from the gebbia haters on here.
Apparently they took it to Twitter and with vile vengeance!
best overall prospect at the position since Moore.
Was this a great performance or am I missing something… wasn’t bad but wasn’t great 0 TD passes? I am hoping this isn’t the future and Oregon just had a good defense
Really? Best QB in the field today. Imagine if Bradford catches some of those.
Well it was the 9th best statistical performance by an OSU QB this year. Maybe that’s what they were referring to.
Vs the 3rd best defense?
Next year Beavs lose Luton, Aydon, Shemar Smith, probably Hodgins, Brandel, and Pierce, among others.
On the other hand, we lose Choukair. So it’s not all bad.
I wonder if Smith gets another year?
Lindsey could replace Hodgins. He has the ability but needs Xanax and ridlin.
Kolby Taylor maybe?
Hodgens will be back next year. He lacks the elite speed to be a high or mid round draft pick. 80-20 he will be back.
At halftime hodgins asked gebbia if he wanted him back next year. Gebbia said yes and hodgins responded with then get me the damn ball.
Gebbia “not emotional” appreciated the opportunity and deferred to his teammates………per Jon Warren from locker room.
As always, consider the source, no Ron Callan today as he worked the WBB win in Florida.
That Jefferson fumble prevented this team from earning a tie of the NCAA all-time season fumble total. Were at 1 for the year, ended with 2. So close!
I think that was the sixth turnover, Georgia Southern has the record with five for an entire season.
Specifically, the stat for “fumbles lost”, rather than total turnovers
I understand, they had a chance to tie for the fewest total turnovers in a season AND fewest fumbles lost. Lost it all on one play!
Oh. Dam!
Personally, I thought that was the best D we played all year. Secondary was pretty good today.
Why doesn’t the NCAA allow non bowl teams to have the extra practices that bowl teams get? or Allow non-bowl teams more spring practices?
It seems to be universally agreed that these practices are very useful in developing younger players.
Cause the ncaa cares about student athletes when they are no making millions off them
Speaking for myself, I will make an attempt to go to as many Home games As possible next year as well as an away game or two. Knowing they will be competitive in most games, I know it will be a good time. I expect season ticket sales to reflect the effort today/all
Season and the improvement in the win/loss column.
Comment of the day?
“This is no playoff caliber team beavs are facing, not even close.” per scotty
Or maybe:
“What if” sums up the season. per angry
Or even:
“Gebbia has the “it” factor. Just needs experience and got a bunch today” from the yachtsman
My favorite was Texasbeav: “OSU football is fun again.”
It’s been so depressing the last 5-6 years. Thank you JS for bringing us back to respectability.
So we have the same record as nebraska
Oh how far the Beavers have fallen!
I think our Former QB as a coach has us going the right direction. And doesn’t pout.
And we have about 3 of their players. Heh heh
Including their Qb
4 next year, when their old Punter, Lighbourn plays for us
I don’t really understand your point, Nebraska will be playing for a national championship next year because the fans deem it so.
CO head coach just talked during halftime. That guy sounds so dumb. How is he their best option!?
Looks like ducks landed a verbal commitment from that 2021 LB, Keith Brown, out of Lebanon. Highly ranked player nationally, but from local area fans who have seen him, more based on his physical measurables than his play on the field.
Still lame to see a kid in our backyard go down there.
https://twitter.com/KeithBrown2121/status/1200956242883043328?s=19
From what I’ve seen? Overrated.
Maybe he has a monster senior year but if thats the #1 LB in the nation then its a pretty weak LB class.
My thoughts also. Seen him play. Big fish, small pond. Looks slow, doesn’t play with form, just runs around smashing into guys.
Time for the offseason coaching carousel to get cranking. It’s actually one of the more entertaining parts of college football anymore.
Which team is going to overpay for the next bust?
Will there be any drama over Smith or Cristobal getting offers to move. Will USC land Urban Meyer? Will they try to poach Cristobal if they whiff on Meyer? Will Mike Leach stay at WSU?
Hope the Beavs can keep some stability while the teams around them have to deal with turnover.
I love watching all the coaching changes and see how they don’t work out (Nebraska w/ Riley & Frost is particularly funny).
it was at this juncture that Riley jumped the first time. I don’t see Smith being tempted but surely some folks have noticed his coordinators.
What’s up with Utah’s uniforms tonight? Are they trying to look like Ohio State?
And what’s with Oklahoma state? Are they trying to look like the beavs?
Very windy in Oklahoma today. Gundy is having a bad hair day.
I thought the same thing
Lazy Nike…isn’t there a tOSU uni that resembled Beavers last version of black units?
From a buddy of mine who is a duck fan
“Ducks would have gotten violently prison raped against any of the playoff teams if its any consolation.”
What’s disgusting is that there’s a fair chance that no matter if the quacks win or lose the Pac-12 championship game, they’re headed to the Rose Bowl. Yuck.
They’ll just get pounded by whoever they end up playing, so it’ll be a nice consolation prize
QB play should improve next year. Pretty set at RB, LBs.
What about OLine, CBs, DLine? Some JC talent verbals on DLine, correct? No more Choukair, thank fucking god…
Beavs finish third in the division; will miss a bowl game because the Pac-12 decided to bar 5-7 teams from going to the post season.
What a stupid decision by the conference, in general. Dumber than playing 9 conference games when not all of the power 5 conferences abide by that practice.
Complaining about not going to a bowl game at 5-7?
I’m with ya on this one, Rev. Never thought even a .500 record should deserve a bowl, much less 5-7.
Now OTOH, the idea that extra practices should be available to ALL teams makes sense to me.
But, bowls make $ and we must play in the arena in which we find ourselves.
Game experience and additional practices are needed, particularly if the Beavs start the year in Stillwater next season. Probably would break even or worse in a lower tier bowl game.
I still don’t understand why JS didn’t schedule a 13th game. Was he assuming that our players would get injured before conference play?
I’m not sure any 5-7 teams are going bowling. Many teams became eligible today. The 5-7 crap is based on an NCAA academic standard anyway.
Not correct. Beavs finish in a 3-way tie for 2nd with UW and Cal.
Not that it really matters
If you aren’t at least a .500 team, you don’t deserve to be in a bowl game, period. By every definition, the season is a failure if you lose more games than you win.
Moral victories dont count? Who knew.
OSU QB Play:
At the beginning of the season, when OSU coaches said it was an even race between Luton and Gebbia, I thought that was just coach speak and didn’t believe. But now seeing how Gebbia played today, there really wasn’t much of a drop off compared from Luton. The only thing lacking was the in-game reps and timing/chemistry with the players (Hodgins). That kid has legit arm and is a definite threat with his legs. He played a heckuva game considering this was his ONLY significant playing time all season. He WAS the better QB on the field today, period. Almost led a game-tying drive had it not been for some drops / fumble. I’m more than excited for next year.
OSU Defense:
Hats off to the D and Tibesar. The guys are playing with a lot of effort and they’re improving every game. Glad to see them not giving up on plays which has been the norm under previous coaching staffs. I honestly think with Gumbs and some more JC transfers, this D is going to be something to watch. Just love their swagger.
OSU OC:
I think Lindgren is doing above average at his position for most of the calls. I think he could’ve gotten more creative during some of the series, with more motion plays and sweeps. For one of last couple series, we ran 3 straight run plays into the middle of the lines with Jefferson, which was a complete waste. He needs to continue to mix it up. If the Beavs have similar success next year I can definitely see teams wanting to pick him up.
Overall: The Beavs are performed better than I expected this year. We essentially bring a lot of the same group of guys next CW and I think Beavs pull it off if they continue this upward trend.
Welcome to the Tibs bandwagon, there’s still room for more.
Actually, there was a significant drop off in the first half as Gebbia couldn’t find Hodgins on three separate occasions and he was wide freaking open. However, given his inexperience, it’s understandable that he had some difficulty finding open receivers. I thought in the second half Gebbia actually looked pretty good but still without your starting QB with 28 TDs, to say it’s not much of a drop off is really not accurate. This team scored 10 points and with Luton, they’ve been averaging 30+ so there was in fact a huge drop off despite Gebbia’s improved play in the second half. QB play wasn’t the only issue though as JJ made incorrect reads especially on the play were he fumbled as the screen was designed to go to the left and had he followed the blockers (where he had three out in front of him) that could have been a huge gain. Instead, he goes to the right and the rest is history. Too bad for Luton as he deserved a much better ending to his college career. The kid was a warrior at OSU and had a great final season. Gebbia looks like he could be pretty good too, but he’ll need to do some extra off season work to develop chemistry with his receivers. The defense improved dramatically over the last 5 games of the season. I think next year we see at least 7 wins and a bowl game if we stay healthy and get some more depth in the program. All in all, a pretty good season given the outlook so I’m optimistic about the future for this program.
As for the Ducks, they are going to get curb stomped by Utah. It’ll be somewhere around 37-17 and it won’t even be that close. Their D-line will dominate the LOS and Oregon’s offense will look even more inept than it was today. Other good news. Ducks lady’s basketball upset by Louisville today….you know they beat a team that is a lock for the national title (LOL).
Who the hell would downvote this commentary?
Never been a fan of Dwight Jaynes, but this piece is worth a read. He concludes this regarding the nikegon organization and it’s hype machine, “…their problem has always been that they’re never quite as good as they think they are. Which may be what’s keeping them from being the very best they can be.”
https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/oregon-ducks/who-will-win-civil-war-underachievers-or-overachievers
BTW, he expected a three TD uck win today.
Gebbia is a beast beavers are going to do great next year ducks will lose everything expect Travis Dye
Gebbia is a beast beavers are going to do great next year ducks will lose everything expect Travis Dye ducks will suck go beavers
I wouldn’t be surprised if ducks pull in a good transfer qb. Losing all O-lineman will hurt.
If Luton plays, OSU wins that game. Frustrating that he wasn’t able to go today. On a positive note, Gebbia looks to have some ability to build off of next year if he wins the job.
False, Luton cant make receivers catch the ball when it hits them in the hands. Or prevent meaningless hurdles by runningbacks.
Oh and make everyone tackle on special teams.
Oh and prevent stupid personal fouls that take 6 points off the board.
That too. Out of all the things that could have gone better today qb play was a almost at the bottom of the list.
Speaking of penalties. Beavs finished 12th in the conference in opponent penalties at 5.1/game. Only Cal averaged less at 4.8/game. Otherwise the Beavs averaged 25% more penalties than their conference opponent despite finishing mid-pac in penalties themselves. So, if you thought they were robbed a bit each week, you’re right.
It doesn’t surprise me. For example, to pass as much as Wazzu did and have ZERO offensive holding penalties seems implausible to me.
Or gain positive yards with his legs when the pocket collapses
If “ifs and buts” were candy and nuts, what a fine Christmas we’d all have ……Dandy Don circa 1979
My final thoughts on the game (and season)…..
My criticisms of Tibesar and the defense we’re probably short sighted. D got better over the course of the season. Today was probably their best game of the season (or UW game).
There are some playmakers on that side of the ball.
D line still needs depth to improve pass rush. Defensive backs as well. My biggest gripe for the season? How many 3rd and 7 or more did they allow the opponent to convert? It seemed like a lot.
Offense…….Gebbia showed something today. First career start. Civil war. On the road. Kid did alright. I think we’ll be fine. If Hodgins returns a 1-2 of him and Bradford can be deadly.
O line needs to drastically improve run blocking. Play calling on runs also. Doesn’t seem like much creativity there.
Special teams…..Flemings should not be returning kicks. A stiff breeze is enough to knock him down. I don’t care how fast he is.
Next season? I expect at least 6 wins and a bowl game. Training wheels are off for Smith. No excuses.
Im still pissed about not punting at the end of the WSU game.
Just liked up our recruiting class and commits on 247sports.com and beavers are ranked currently at 57 with 15 3* commits. 2 SDE JUCO and 2 CB JUCO players. So our defense will be just as good if not better next year. The other 11 recruits are high school commits.
Isaiah Newell ATH 6-3 215 lbs (LB? TE? WR?)
Zeriah Beason WR
John Miller ILB
Junior Walling ILB
Ben Gulbranson QB
Jake Overman TE
Cooper Darling OG
Silas Bolden WR
Shane Kady WDE
Trevor Pope ATH 6-1 165 lbs (WR? RB? CB?)
Tommy Spencer TE
What are some other needs other than OL?
DT will always be a need. Having an anchor they is at or above 300 is pretty useful. At this point we just need talent in this class. Next year we will absolutely need OLine, Dline, Safety, a Rb, a QB, a Kicker, and some OLB.
Also have that DE from the SEC, Charles Moore who transferred in. And possibly Gumbs, depending on his rehab. Probably cant count on him being available to start the year.
Other needs: transfer QB, more Safety and CB depth and possibly a transfer WR depending on what Hodgins does. Long snapper and transfer kicker could potentially take spots if they land the guys they want.
Idk, Hayes has proven himself as a kicker.
Punter? Or is the nebby kid good?
Hayes is looking good. If he maintains, they should be set at PK for the next three years. Not sure how strong his leg is for kickoffs? I’m assuming not great since they stayed with Choukair? They need to find a talented safety through the JC/Transfer Portal route. Anyone hear anything on Morris? It didn’t look good.
Morris actually did return to the game last night.
Word was sprain, lets hope for no complications/misdiagnosis. Tough kid. Go Sherwood!
That’s good to hear. If he can go into camp injury-free and stay that way it will be a boost for the defense.
No Sherwood! My son has played against them many times in youth football. They run that misdirection well even at that level.
We have him and Nelson, so doubt we take another punter
This is the nebby kid you refer to:
https://youtu.be/c3H2yYHtQf4
Hoping JS and staff can work some kicking magic on him, but I think Choukair broke their wand.
I thought Rodriguez had a solid year. Seems the staff, aside from sticking with a player too long, helped him improve. Coverage units on the other hand…
Forgot this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAa2GVOj0xg
*cry*
Thanks to NiceBeaver for hosting the CBS poll. Hope that continues next season and that more ab’s will set up accounts with their ab handle, and, let’s disqualify that kid Jacob!
It was fun, thanks for participating. I’m not sure if they have more games this week and through bowl season. Haven’t checked, but we may not be finished.
I’ll try to keep these pools going whenever CBS hosts them.
What does the winner get again?
Free pettibonehead memorabilia ($75 shipping and handling fee)
I think i said i would mail the winner one of my 2018 OSU baseball “National Champions” poster.
So what do you think for next year? Should I set up an entry fee where we play for a small pool? Something like $2 or maybe $5 buy in, winner takes the pot? Or top 2 split the pot?
Would probably have to set up a beavrecruiting venmo acct and use screenshots of the account balance for transparency. Also it’s probably technically illegal, but i’m not sure who would care if, we kept the group small.
(Uncle sam would care, but maybe if the entry fee isnt directly tied to winnings there could be some wiggle room?)
Maybe people could donate to the pool and entry is free. That might be legal since it would be a “contest” but I’m not a lawyer or anything so who knows
One thing to consider for next season, a plus 10 TO margin is not likely to happen again. To only get five wins with that number is not great. The defense is really going to have to continue the improvement or six wins will be tougher. Turnovers by the offense are likely to return to the mean, so other areas have to get better. I’m not counting on only six for an entire season again unless Smith has some magic coaching for ball security.
That’s a good point.
On the flip side, I’d be willing to bet that we improve in forcing turnovers. OSU ranked 75th in the country with 18 this year. With an improved pass rush and better secondary play, we should be in the high to mid twenties.
High twenties is a bit ambitious. Mid twenties would be amazing with an improvement to the low twenties great. Just hoping they keep the turnover differential, 12 and top 10 in the country, the same or better.
NCAA has The Beavs with 16 forced, 6 committed (best in the nation) for the season. Tied for tenth best in margin. Might be hard to repeat that number.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/29
This was a down year for much of the Pac12, so I would expect the other teams to improve as well. Hopefully the Beavs can win 2 non con games, but winning 4 in conference isn’t going to be a cake walk.
The last line of this article pretty well sums up the last two games.
http://theofficialcandyreport.com/2019/11/30/oregon-sees-opportunities-and-seizes-civil-war-win-from-oregon-state/#more-3883
His love of commas kills me
Down goes Helton.
Also Charlie Strong and Steve Addazio.
Wonder if Riley gets a call.
I’m not sure Helton is gone. Sounds like SI may have f-ed up.
WBB leapfrogs 6 teams to a #1 ranking
Wow, really? First time they’re been ranked #1, correct?
I don’t know what the official rankings are. Looks like this was the ESPN “bracketologist” who ranked them #1.
Have no idea if they’ve ever been there, but the UConns and Baylors of the world have dominated past seasons.
Yesterday, #1 oregon amd #2 Baylor both lost. And Beavs have a couple top 20 wins already this year, by large margins. Still way early too.
I think that’s a #1 for the early tournament bracket. So they are 1 out of 4 #1s. They replaced stanford about 2 weeks ago in the power rankings.
But I may be wrong.
This was 10 days ago. Same author.
http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/bracketology
You’re not wrong, BB
Beav gals #1 in one of four regions.
Every ranking I see still shows Beavs 7th
See the twitter feed, or go the @beaverwbb handle. It’s linked there
New thread up with final thoughts on the season. Worth reading the entire thing. Curious to hear ya’lls thoughts.