03.Sep.2011 Sacramento State @ Oregon State (Game Thread)

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Use this thread for game comments.

Ps. Sorry to get his up so late. We actually just had a 4 hour power outage. I thought I'd miss the game.

Just came back on, though!

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  • JackBeav says:
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    We’re in chat too. You wanna do that as well as this?

    • angry angry says:
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      Yeah I am going to hang out here since the comments archive and the chat doesn’t. Guys who are at the game prefer this since they can read when they get home.

      Also, nice kick by Romaine, and Sac State looks horrible so far.

  • angry angry says:
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    2 plays 2 fumbles.

    That’s those freshman jitters I mentioned… 🙂

  • JackBeav says:
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    Agnew looks good!

    Did we all know it was gonna be the two frosh getting the ball?

  • JackBeav says:
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    Nobody expects the fly sweep!

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Wow.

  • angry angry says:
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    Diggler strikes, and then the read option QB strikes.

    New year, same ol’!

  • Tyler says:
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    The feed camera angles are DUMB, way too tight on plays, bouncing around a bit too much as well. I can’t farking see how far a throw is or run if they are so tight.

  • JackBeav says:
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    MY BOY DYLAN!!@!!^%&%#%!!!

    • JackBeav says:
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      He just made a bee-line for the RB. You could see him coming a mile away.

      • Tyler says:
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        They pullled him for pass rush situation I think, hes not the speediest guy, but a great balanced end I think from highlights and build.

  • JackBeav says:
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    MY BOY SCOTT!!!^%$^*$$*!!!%!!

  • angry angry says:
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    Trying to watch the line and see if they’re at all improved…hard to say so far.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Darrel who?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    No pass is going down field at all. Everything is short.

  • Tyler says:
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    Feed down?

  • angry angry says:
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    Okay, so that was the jitters and nervous energy. If they’re playing like that the next (offensive) series I’ll start to worry.

    Oh, and Katz looks exactly the same as last season (if not worse) thus far. Pretty disheartening start, but the nerves should be out of their system now.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Anyone else having problems with the feed?

  • JackBeav says:
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    The stands look full in even the nosebleed corners.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Hmmm… Castro didn’t get that one?

  • JackBeav says:
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    Nice play by Wilson staying home and Doctor pushing the play to the outside for safety support. Last year that play would have cut up the seam and back to the middle.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Yeah the feed is pretty spotty.

  • homefry homefry says:
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    that was underwhelming…

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Nice grab by cooks.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Anyone know what’s the deal with Agnew? Hasn’t been on the field in a while

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    He’s back now

  • angry angry says:
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    The RT (Kelly?) is so bad. He’s losing on every play, run or pass.

    I guess this is why Riley put Enger in at TE.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Play calling looks awful

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Katz has been underwhelming so far.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    15 yard fade play…awesome.

  • JackBeav says:
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    I like that version of the read option. More please!

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Langsdorf is a top 20 offensive coordinator? LOL!

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Crichton and Wynn look great

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Yeah, nice job on not turning your head around. Some things will never change.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Anyone good on the rules? Are you allowed to crack back on a CB while the ball is in the air?

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    And our friend “not looking for the ball” comes back with a fury. Glad it’s not the NFL.

  • angry angry says:
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    That 2nd PI call was lame.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      But it has become an “automatic” call when a coverage guy does not play the ball.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Does anyone want to say anything about stupid technique always causing a PI call? Or are we just gonna leave that one alone right now?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Beavers should have the ball back if the secondary would turn and look back for the ball for once.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Can’t someone off the ball in the secondary yell “ball in the air” or is it too noisy to hear it. I am just getting tired of this same shit from the secondary year after year.

  • JackBeav says:
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    How was that not an INT?

  • Ajack says:
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    Link to feed?

  • angry angry says:
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    Every team makes vertical passing look easy. For the Beavs it’s like pulling teeth. All they can do is horizontal crap in the flat. I assume this is a byproduct of the o-line and langsdork, but I really am not sure. Can’t figure it out. I see WRs running downfield,but the ball never goes there.

  • Gman says:
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    Touchdown!!!!! Oh wait… Sac. St. just scored on us…

    • Tyler says:
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      Whelp $10 to OSU hehe….im amazed they are linking the feed for such a non impact game liket his, great site and find I will see if it works on my PS3 browser.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Thanks for the link Gman!!!

  • Tyler says:
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    FYI ESPN gametracker is better than the OSU website one.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/gamecast?gameId=312460204

  • WFO WFO says:
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    My god. Don’t bother looking back for the ball.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Amazing, Collins SHOULD have had that, but instead that floater goes for 6. This secondary is just brutal, and it’s not all their fault; never allowed to look back.

  • SanDiegoBeav says:
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    They can’t blame this on rookie mistakes. This not looking back BS is a coaching mistake.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Why are we throwing on 2nd and five?

  • Gman says:
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    Holy shit. This game is making my eyes hurt

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Our secret is out, Kelly and Ellis suck. Going to be a long year.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    3rd and 15, lets run a 5-yard cut. Brilliant.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    This is pathetic

  • Meat Whistle says:
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    Agnew runs with pads too high

    Our oline is killing us.

    • JackBeav says:
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      He does need to drop his shoulders in the hole. But the good news is that there are holes, and he’s finding them. He’s still young. He’ll work on technique.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Mannion warming up?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Oh wow, Mannion is warming up?

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    The announcer still thinks that Vaz is the backup. Keeping up with the times, I see.

  • JackBeav says:
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    I’m thinking everyone on the sidelines thinks they’re making better reads than Katz is right now.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Mannion warming up with some “intensity”? Interesting.

  • Ajack says:
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    Thanks Beaver believers!

  • Ajack says:
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    Thank you
    Beaver believers!

  • ObjCritic says:
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    You think they’d let them have a clock in their heads, “after 4 seconds max, look for the ball.”

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Wow. I should have kept elk hunting today…glad I hiked out.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Well, in one way it’s a relief to see us suck early…get off the roller coaster now…is this some kind of effing joke?

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Well, fuck.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Oh my god our secondary sucks shit like nothing I’ve ever seen.

  • bornbeaver says:
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    Hard to listen to. Are they looking ahead to wisconsin?. This is just painful. Maybe the PI calls went to their head… Just awful

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    wish I had bet my mortage on sac st. +27.5.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    I may just turn this one off. I’m disgusted.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    This is absolutely brutal.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Good god, this reminds me of an era I never thought I would see again when Montana would dominate the Beavers.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    And we’ve given this asshole a lifetime contract? I’m so tired of Riley.

  • helmsley says:
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    omg

  • angry angry says:
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    Yeah, let’s bring on the Pac-16 with Texas and Oklahoma. Lol

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Secondary: F-.
    Passing: F-.

    Kind-of important to not suck at.

  • SanDiegoBeav says:
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    It kind of fits the coach’s mindset…”we’ll see how we do…I have no idea how we will play…” No expectations leads to this kind of shit.

    • helmsley says:
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      Moreover, when Riley was just asked about the pass interference calls – I think he said just a minute ago, “that’s just part of football” or words to that effect. BTW – can OS forfeit against Wisconsin? Is there a mercy rule?

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Are we sure the Beavers have better players than Sac.st? Beavs are not passing the eyeball test right now.

  • homefry homefry says:
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    here come the boos…

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Wide open up the middle….bad pass. Dear lord, bench this joke.

  • Meat Whistle says:
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    WOW!

  • CraigBeav says:
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    When and who was the last straight up patsy we lost to?

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      I would say Wash St. was pretty bad last year, but if you are talking FCS teams. They lost to Montana and Idaho in the early 90’s I believe.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Note to Wheaton: the end zone is that way—->

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    There’s so many things going so badly.

  • bornbeaver says:
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    Katz is just…. Mind boggling. Manion can’t be any worse, why not bring him in.

  • Tyler says:
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    RANDY THE LOGGER!

  • homefry homefry says:
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    speaking of low expections
    Houston 31-14 UCLA
    south Fla 16- 0 Norte Dame

  • progressivebeav says:
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    I actually prefer the end-zone camera right now. Can’t see all the suck.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    This feels exactly like Washington State.

  • Meat Whistle says:
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    Damn guys, I have waited so long for today. What a freaking let down!!!!

  • WFO WFO says:
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    I’ll put $5 on 80-3 wisconsin right now.

    Any takers?

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Who were those guys in Beaver jerseys and WHY IN THE HELL WERE THEY SMILING?????

  • osbeavs says:
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    If I was there, I would start throwing things on the field if it still looks like this in the 4th quarter.

  • homefry homefry says:
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    I’ll take 77 pints (points-freudian slip)

  • Meat Whistle says:
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    Utah State will beat us 80-3

    • WFO WFO says:
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      Utah state damn near beat auburn today. They would be up 40 right now.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Any recruits at the game? 🙁

  • angry angry says:
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    Castro doesn’t really look for the ball. He just puts his head down and pushes forward lol.

    I am seeing a lot of little things like that that really add up. Oh, and the big fact that Vince Young would school our QB on the wonderlic.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      You stole my thought. Ryan Katz does not seem to have sharp football instincts, right? I think the Rodgers Brothers saved his ass last year.

    • osbeavs says:
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      Terrelle Pryor would school our QB (TP scored a 7).

  • Tyler says:
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    Jeezus Poyer got crushed

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Oh look, katz completed a short pass…with 30 seconds left.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Sure, Katz checks down on a play when he absolutely can’t check it down.

  • Tyler says:
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    Fire Langsdorf.

    Dink and dunk rears its ugly head. Maybe its Katz too, but dude has GUN so throw DEEP.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I thought Riley was calling the plays this year. Not so?

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Langsdorf is. That’s why the plays look so awful.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Other than wishful thinking, what made you think Riley was calling plays this year?

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Man, I wish Riley would grow a pair and just fire Langsdorf and Banker.

    • CraigBeav says:
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      Kidney Immunity 🙁

    • Tyler says:
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      Def Langsdorf, and possibly Banker just based on his over reliance on 4-3 base stuff. In todays game, we should be in NIckle 75% of the time versus these spread teams, and then a lot of Dime as well.

      I would LOVE the beavs to go the 3-3-5, don’t need great D line for it, relies more on speed, blitzing, stunts/shifting etc. Look at Sac State, 4-2-5 is same deal, like TCU runs.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    This has got to be surreal for Riley right now.

  • Tyler says:
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    “Go like crazy!” says Mike….yeah we are going CRAZY.

  • bornbeaver says:
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    If they don’t come fired up after half time… Not sad I’m going to miss the rest of the season in recruit training.

    • JackBeav says:
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      Buck up Ricky!

      • bornbeaver says:
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        Well I am sad I’m going to miss the season. I love football…. But watching my team play sloppy uninspiring ball is just disheartening. Losing sucks, but losing with out effort is unacceptable. Especially for a coach in his millionth season.

  • emc emc says:
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    Just gotta block it up in the second half and play like crazy. NICE, COACH! I have so much confidence in you!

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Hire Mike Leach!

    • Tyler says:
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      Would be awesome, but the weather might be crappy for the Air Raid.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    FIRE THE FRICK’N AD. Get an AD that has the balls to fire Riley!

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Riley needs to go to Mannion in the second half. No way he does worse than what Katz has looked like. Katz looks like he’s making his first career start.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Caaaaannnnnfield!!! Caaaaaannnnfield!!!! I feel like I’ve experienced all of this before.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Canfield never looked awful vs an FCS team though. I expected much better out of Katz. Got to go to Mannion.

      • CraigBeav says:
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        I was referring to when we were all in the stands a few years ago chanting for Riley to put in Canfield when DA was sucking a fat one

        • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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          You mean when Matt Moore was sucking. Who was the backup under Anderson? Gunderson?

    • osbeavs says:
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      CANRILEY!

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Anyone see the Utah St/Auburn game? I feel bad for Coach Anderson, so close. He was a damn good d-coordinator for the Utah Utes. How does a true freshmen QB perform that well in that situation and then we have what we just saw from Katz? It’s coaching, right?

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Have to say part coaching and part player. Some guys just don’t have it mentally to be a good QB.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    DB’s being coached to not look back for the ball is really getting OLD! Does anyone employ this method successfully?

    • helmsley says:
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      It isn’t even employed in Small Fry Football. And it’s never employed successfully. It’s (in this case,OSU) the old doing something over and over again expecting different results.

  • OneEyedKing says:
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    Passing: F-
    Katz couldn’t complete anything, and threw a pick during our best drive.
    Rushing: C+
    Agnew had some good runs up the middle, but only one outside run, and it didn’t gain much.
    Receiving: C-
    One drop, and too much dancing.
    Run Blocking: B
    Runs up the middle have had gaps, but the outside was sealed.
    Pass Blocking: D-
    Not the worst, but a lot of pressures. But some of those sacks are Katz holding the ball too long.
    Defensive Line: C+
    Some good pressure early, but in the 2nd quarter there has been no pressure at all. Scheme or players, who knows (probably scheme).
    Linebackers: C+
    Solid open-field tackles, not a lot else.
    Secondary: F-
    2 huge PIs that lead to the first touchdown of the game, and two bonehead defenses that lead to big plays. Finally, a ton of short throws that were just uncontested, such as the slant for Sac’s second TD.
    Special Teams: C
    Good coverage, one mediocre kick, one FG, no returns. Meh, considering how much potential our special teams have.

    Overall, a really bad game so far, and a lot of it is scheme. We don’t apply enough pressure defensively(Blitz more!) and our corners aren’t allowed to look back(as always, why is that our strategy?). On offense, NOTHING deep ever, terribly missed short passes, and the ones that are complete are either way too high, or Wheaton dances too much. The run has been solid, but it had better be. But solid isn’t good enough right now.

    If we don’t get a passing game going, and if our secondary/pass rush doesn’t step up, this will be a 27 point loss, not win.

  • osbeavs says:
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    IF Riley knows any curse words, he better use them. This hip hip hooray shit at halftiime won’t work today.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Considering not even watching next Saturday’s game. I have no hope they can even keep it competitive. I was feeling good about the Beavers playing Wisconsin tight but after seeing this, no chance.

  • Meat Whistle says:
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    Crap, to think I almost drove out there from California!!!

  • Meat Whistle says:
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    Oh great take shit abt the Ducks at half time…. What’a freaking tool

    • Meat Whistle says:
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      we need to get our shit together, who gives a crap abt the ducks

      • Gman says:
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        Exactly what I was thinking, no need to talk shit especially when we are losing to an FCS school! This is royally fucked.

      • Meat Whistle says:
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        his third question should have been, can this team keep within 100 pts of either LSU or the Ducks?

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    I am thinking if the Beavers don’t score on their first possession of the 2nd half this is going to be a loss. They suck up too much time on offense with dink and dunk and they give up too much time on defense by letting the opponent convert on third down. The days of a big play offense seem long gone.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      Yup. Hard to make big plays when you don’t try.

  • Gman says:
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    Fire Langsdorf and please get Mike Riley into a leadership intensity class.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Have we had a single play action or screen yet? I know we got the ball to Jenkins in the flats a couple times for good gainers, but I haven’t seen us try to punish them for stacking the box or overloading our strong side.

    • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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      There has been play action but Katz never threw the ball

      • Gman says:
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        Is Katz eyes on the side of his head? He can only seem to see horizontal

      • Tyler says:
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        Not gonna honor PA if we aren’t running that well. Only had a couple 9 yard runs, nothing consistent.

        Interesting they had 3 backs in there, I know I heard by commitee but thats just kinda funky to see for OSU one back offense.

    • Meat Whistle says:
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      We tried a middle screen…. No luck.

      • JackBeav says:
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        That middle screen was garbage. Katz threw it too early and didn’t let the play develop. But I’m seeing our RB’s get clean releases into the flats, and Katz isn’t even looking at them.

  • Tyler says:
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    FYI that pirated feed link works on PS3 browser, so you can watch on big tv screens if you have one.

  • angry angry says:
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    On the front page there’s a new thread for the 2nd half .

  • ace0099 says:
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    sheesh,
    even Washington State with a backup QB is performing better than the Beavs
    up 14-0 over Idaho state

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    We will find out in a little bit if Riley decided to pull Katz. I’m guessing no.

  • JackBeav says:
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    The stands have really emptied out for the half. I wonder how many return.

  • Meat Whistle says:
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    Fing feed is down

  • Gman says:
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    the broadcast is down or is it just me?

  • SanDiegoBeav says:
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    Half of my season prediction has already come true! I thought our WR’s were our strength! Can we not throw the ball downfield? WTF

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      I don’t see them even getting that much separation so far. I mean nothing is looking good except that Romaine nailed his FG.

  • BeaverBeliever21 says:
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    Mannion is in

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Damn, if Agnew had cut outside I think he was gone. Hard to see that though.

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    Romaine scores the only points so far…. who would have thunk it.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Really time for a turnover.

  • angry angry says:
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    Guys, go to the new thread.

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    Is it too late to steal QB Keenan from Houston… he is looking NFL today.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    fwiw this thread is still working. Just had to close the browser and open a new one.

    http://apps.ohlulz.com/ncaa/flash.php?lulz=rtmp://cp98724.live.edgefcs.net:1935/live&id=orst_m-footbl@31490

    Thanks again GMan for the link

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Great to see the fans so happy that their team is being made to look like shit.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Perhaps it’s just the booze that’s making them act that way.

  • KC says:
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    nightmare.

  • KC says:
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    pretty good game there. Think I’ll get my donate on.

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