12.Jun.2012 Rooting Against the Ducks = New Rooting for the Beavers

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I feel like being a Beaver fan has been reduced to rooting against the Ducks rather than rooting for the Beavers.

I realize Beaver fans have always rooted against the Ducks, but with the Ducks' National Title game, Rose Bowl, CWS run, etc, the ante has been upped. Beaver fans are, figuratively, "on steroids" in their anti-Duck rooting. They have the mindset "I'll deal with the Beavers woes, so long as the Ducks don't take the next step and win any titles." Or something? Just like 40 is the new 30, it seems the new Beavers' winning is the Ducks' losing.

A perfect example is how happy Beaver fans were that the Ducks' baseball team lost yesterday. Our own team had a worse season, and has been home for days. Instead of discussing how our own team could improve, we're discussing the Ducks. I do it to some extent (especially with the Lyles scandal), but I admire the Ducks' approach [when they aren't cheating]. They're aggressive, set high goals, and have made Eugene a destination. That wasn't all just money and/or cheating.

I get it that the only thing better than a Beaver win is a Duck loss, but we have to make sure Duck losses don't fill the void left by the lack of Beaver wins.

Just saying.

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  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Yup, you pretty much summed it up.

  • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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    There are only two type of people I despise. Those who are intolerant of other teams’ fan bases………and Duck fans.

  • bone says:
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    I respect-hate the ducks. I respect how they play football, I hate that its them that play the good football.

  • osubaby osubaby says:
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    I don’t hate the ducks, I hate their fanbase. I respect the players and what they do on the field, not so much off. So for me, I want them to do poorly so I can laugh in the faces of thier ignorant fans who are assholes.

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      That’s basically how I feel as well. They had the most obnoxious fan base before they were nationally relevant and it has only gotten worse in the last few years.

      • wannabeav says:
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        Well, one good thing about a Duck trip to the CWS would have been an honest assessment by the ESPN crowd about how they were shamed into re-starting baseball because of Pat Casey’s success. On the whole though, I’m glad they didn’t make it. So, I guess that makes me part of the problem. We can only hope this is a temporary survival mechanism until our football team rebounds and the Beavs get back to Omaha.

        • tim318 says:
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          Do you really think that the Ducks going to the CWS would’ve brought any positive exposure to OSU? All we would hear about is that they got to Omaha in only their 4th season (forgetting about the decades they played before mothballing their program).

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            There would have been SOME good for OSU if the Ducks had gone to the CWS because the 06-07 teams are the benchmark that drove Oregon back to baseball; not nearly as much as it would have done for UO; which I why I’m glad Kent State won.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Wait till you experience the Wisconsin traveling fans before you anoint them the most obnoxious.

  • beaverbeliver says:
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    I just want to be better than Oregon in Football, basketball and baseball for once. What is tough is that over the last 12 months the Beavs have given us nothing to brag about. The Ducks have been better in Football, Basketball and Baseball lately. That is why sweeping them in the final baseball series felt so good, it was a little taste. It has been very difficult to watch them set out for BCS bowls, be ESPN darlings on gameday and host super regionals while we sit at home in agony. I long for a day when we are just better. With another terrible football season on the horizon for us, I am afraid that day is far away and their fans are happy to point this out.

    • Numbers says:
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      Ducks NOT better than Beavs in baseball. That’s why they were swept. They only made a super regional in thanks to their own fucking coach being on the god damn scheduling committee.

      • Grape says:
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        OSU Baseball > Ducks Baseball

      • GoBeavs90 says:
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        Factual. The Ducks came in on a 9 game winning streak and had lost one Pac-12 game in a month and the Beavers completely outplayed them. Ducks advanced to a SR cause they were at home and the Beavers had to play in the toughest environment in college baseball. Oregon wouldn’t have made it out of the BR Regional at all. Also, Oregon shouldn’t have even beat AP in Oregon’s regional the first night they played anyway. Umpires gift wrapped that one to them. If Ryan Dunn hadn’t played the worst game of his life, I think the Beavers win that regional and the Beavers would have played Stony Brook a lot tougher than LSU.

        So, Oregon was not better than OSU in baseball, they just caught some breaks earlier in the season that OSU didn’t, that was the difference in hosting and going on the road for a regional. It was just ideal circumstances for Oregon.

        • beaverbeliver says:
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          Better record in pac12. Played longer season. Just saying. Next year we will be in Omaha and Ducks will be at home. But this year they were better.

        • matt b says:
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          If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Beavers and Beaver fans are not better by dumping on the opposition, though it may make some guys feel superficially fine.

          • Jack says:
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            What if you’re a diabetic who’s allergic to nuts?

            Huh?

            Would you still have a merry Christmas?

        • riverduck says:
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          Yeah, Oregon was better. Better Pac Record, Better RPI, Better ISR, and Made it farther in the playoffs due to a stellar pac 12 campaign. Oregon State, Wasington, and WSU beat us. Yeah, we got beat my subpar teams, won the games that count. The Ducks were solid with what they had as players. Talent wise they had the least amount of the last three years, but made up with it in other areas. We went into a hostile Arizona environment, won the first, got smashed, then won with our #3 pitcher (who is really our #5) Oh, Kent State, and Arizona are still playing in the CWS. LSU is not… so that is a fail.

          • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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            Wait a minute….a Duck fan using the “quality losses” argument? I thought that’s what they made fun of Oregon State fans for?

            Anyway, I was sitting at Macadam’s bar and grill tonight in Portland and looked across the room at a nice wall display of 2 separate Oregonian front page cover stories. They featured back to back National Championships. It put a smile on my face. Kiss the rings bitch. Please don’t describe your team’s play as “stellar” until they’ve actually earned it.

    • wannabeav says:
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      speaking of ESPN, when is someone going to do an expose on the influence Nike has on all things college sports and the four letter network in particular, to the advantage of touting Oregon in particular. I speak of the conflict of interest of folks like Herbie, Corso, Erin Andrews having contracts on the side with the company that single handedly elevated UO to its current heights.

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        Its true, Beaver fans would not be so hard on the Ucks if our major athletic teams were doing better. I think there is a bit of jealously showing by “Beaver Nation”. I don’t have anything against Uck football or baseball teams, but their fans, at least most of them, are “better than thou” as far as attitude goes. But I realize that comes with loving your winning teams also.

        I have to admire the Uck fan base at the same time. They support their teams with such vigor and enthusiasm, much of which is lacking among Beaver fans these days. The other thing is the great imagination and marketing base for the U of O, gives fans so much more. It seems that every time I watch or read the local news I hear about something new the U of O athletic department is doing for its fan base, teams or building improvements. Not so with OSU and idiot Bob De Care Less. We get fan appreciation day and a bag of free popcorn. And we put up with it.

        The Ucks have coaches that aspire to win and to win big and both the fans and college get rewarded for doing just that. It seems like the mind set at OSU is 100 years behind time and satisfied with doing nothing new or more.

        The other thing I want to point out. Uck fans and alumni would not allow a failed coach like Mike Riley to be around as long as OSU fans and alumni are doing. The Uck fan base voice is loud and powerful. It seems like OSU Beaver Nation is just whimpy. Just look at how much “BLACK” the Ucks are wearing as far as shirts, hats, uniforms, etc. Isn’t “black” our color? But the Ucks get away with it because everything they do is right……a very positive mindset indeed.

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          You nailed it…I have nothing to add. (believe it or not). JB

        • angry angry says:
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          The other thing I want to point out. Uck fans and alumni would not allow a failed coach like Mike Riley to be around as long as OSU fans and alumni are doing.

          I think this is a key point.
          Another question: what fanbases would put up with Riley?

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            Probably Ohio St., UNC, USC, Penn St., and a few others that have faced major scandals and probation. At least they would tolerate him for a couple seasons.

        • beaverbeliver says:
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          Well stated. This is exactly what I was trying to say.

        • EugeneBeaver says:
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          “I have to admire the Uck fan base at the same time. They support their teams with such vigor and enthusiasm, much of which is lacking among Beaver fans these days”

          Cough, Cough BS Cough Cough

          hole fans support their football team. And they have a dedicated group of track fans. For the most part they could careless about basketball or football or any other sport. Their attendance at their new basketball arena is so bad they borrowing way more money then expected against their ‘legacy’ fund that it will run out years before expected. Possibly forcing them to default on their bonds.

          This last weekend for their super regional game they didn’t even sell out PK Park. They had over 1,000 empty seats per game. 85% attenance! OSU sold regular season games at Goss this year.

          Don’t kid yourself, oregon has hard-care bandwagon football fans. Two losing seasons and they wouldn’t be up in arms wanting their coach fired as many of you’d like to think. They’d just move on to the next hottest team.

  • slamadam says:
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    i like to tell myself my strong distaste for the ducks has more to do with them and the way they do things more than it does my own jealousies. over the past decade i think it’s fair to say that they may have become one of the least desirable “rivals” to have because of the nike connections. the thing that pushes me to continue to root against them so adamantly is the growing contingent of bandwagon fans they gather who refer to themselves as die hard when they don’t have the right to do so. the type of person who says shit like “i don’t really like football, but i loooove my ducks!”. the other thing that bothers me about their fan base is how little of that enthusiasm for football carries over into other sports until they’re on the verge of doing something special. look at this baseball season, just about all of which they spent in the top 15, yet played in front of mediocre sized crowds and didn’t seem to garner much attention until they won their regional. lastly i hate how they’ve parlayed a three or four year run of domination over oregon state in football into this big brother little brother thing which so many feel runs across all sports when frankly it only applies to one.

  • angry angry says:
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    this big brother little brother thing which so many feel runs across all sports when frankly it only applies to one.

    That is true, but it’s the big one. Also, the big/little bro thing is more than just success on the field. It’s attitude. The OSU athletic department on whole acts like the little brother. Everything they do is Bush League and that trickles down.

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      fair enough, but that goes back to why many people (not JUST beaver fans) hate them so much. the attitude and perceptions they carry don’t always match reality.

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        Most of the time “attitude” creates reality. A football coach with high goals inspires his team to reach those goals. A college fan base who says their team is the best inspires their team to play like the best. So reality of winning and confidence is achieved.

        In an interview tonight on local news, the Ucks baseball coach stated that they WILL get to the NCAA world series next year if it kills me to get my team there. WOW! Has anyone here ever heard Riley say anything close to this statement over the past 10 years. The answer is NO.

        • Numbers says:
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          Translation… “I got away with shafting Beavs last year in my selection committee, so I screwed themharder this year. It was close to working and I got away with it. So next year I’m gonna screw them so fricken hard that it will either work or I’ll get busted.”

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            The Beavs need to be good enough to not notice or to have it matter.

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    A lot of that li’l brother “stuff” is very subjective. What really matters is measurable performance. So here we are for 2011/12. Football 9 of 12, basketball 8 of 12, baseball 5 of 12. The other sports don’t matter as they are not on the radar screen of most fans and produce no revenue.

    They have slipped by measurable standards into a lower tier PAC-12 also ran. The amazing thing is the complacency. In almost any organization, public or private, there would be major changes.

    It’s easy to write the Ducks success off to a major benefactor, but that is only a portion of the Ducks rise. If Reser made better potato salad and gave all the profits to OSU the Beavs would still be mediocre given the current leadership… or lack thereof. JB

    PS: I am the only one excited about the new and improved Lost and Found at Reser? At least it’s something positive.

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      Reser makes decent potato salad considering it’s processed crap. They also have a pretty cool logo.

      I’m excited about the lost and found. I might find some free adult diapers that I can use in 30 years!

    • slamadam says:
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      “they have slipped by measurable standards into a lower tier pac-12 also ran. the amazing thing is the complacency. in almost any organization, public or private, there would be major changes.”
      i feel like you’re lumping baseball and to a lesser extent basketball in with football by saying that. granted, the baseball team hasn’t been back to omaha since 2007, but they have been to the postseason every year but one since then, and they’ve been back to the super regionals since then as well. the basketball program is still pretty bad, but it’s on the rise. they won 21 games last year and they’re finally breaking ground on the new practice facility. i completely agree with you that what matters is measurable performance, but even that can be somewhat subjective.

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        That’s true but… 5th out of 12 in baseball isn’t exactly setting the league on fire. Arguably it’s the best baseball conference in the country, but the Beav’s set a high bar six years ago.

        8th out of 12 in basketball.. is well… 8th out of 12. That’s counting a laughable 10 win pre-season schedule and 2 wins in the mighty CBI. One of which the opposing coach couldn’t work into his schedule. The only bright spot was a brief end of the season run at the PAC-12 Tournament.

        5th place is Miss Congeniality in a beauty pageant. Its a crappy colored forgettable ribbon in track. It’s a tiny trophy in little league. JB

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          It’s a good thing nobody took fifth this year… unless you’re talking about Stanford, who technically would have lost a tie-break with us tied at fourth. But I don’t think anyone really cares about tie-bre

    • tim318 says:
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      Is OSU the victim of it’s own success (2000 Fiesta Bowl, 2006/07 CWS champs)? Both Football and Baseball teams went through over two decades of missing the postseason altogether. Now, fans have tasted some success and we are craving the drug of winning. We can’t be happy with making the post-season.

  • Jack says:
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    Does this mean I’m not allowed to root for Stony Brook or Kent State anymore?

    Nothing like moving on with a walk off pop up. I hope we find better D at 3B and behind the plate next year. And I hope Bryant develops a third pitch.

    Why am I supposed to combine two exclusive thoughts? It doesn’t quite work.

    • angry angry says:
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      No that’s why I said

      I get it that the only thing better than a Beaver win is a Duck loss, but we have to make sure Duck losses don’t fill the void left by the lack of Beaver wins.

      I understand why it’s fun for people when the Ducks lose. It’s just that I don’t want it to become a substitute for the Beavers winning.

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        Well stated angry……..but it seems that a Uck loss is the only thing Beaver fans have left to hang to. Lets face it, college football leads the way as far as college athletics, hands down. Until we can gain a winning and competitive football program, the feelings at Beaver Nation will be at a low.

      • Jack says:
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        See… that’s not what I watched.

        I watched Kent State win.

        I guess someone has to lose when someone wins, but I feel good for those kids. I imagine there were a lot of fans without teams in the 2006-07 CWS who cheered for us for the same reasons.

        It was cool to see Kent State’s players cheering for something they worked hard to get. I felt no schadenfreude when they showed the Ducks fielders near tears for losing. I think they got a lot farther than anyone thought they would this past year. They did well to be in the position they were when they lost in the first place. Talk about more with less. Horton did one bang-up job this year.

  • Beavocalypse says:
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    I don’t root against the Ducks because at this point the only salvation we will receive from Mike Riley, Bob the Tard or Coach Hopenchange will be their continued success finally making the real Beaver fan that is buried under the mediocrity loving shell wake up and try having some pride in their programs. I’m only watching baseball till that happens

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    The indulgence of Phil Knight, the advent of Chip Kelley’s football genius, and the arrogance of a lot of duck fans has combined to make them the OVERDOGS. Some folks natrually root for the underdog, and now that is US.

    Downside is a lot of folks like a BANDWAGON….and that, currently, is THEM. In football they are on top, in baseball they got close to the CWS. So you see more and more toilet seat emblems on cars….

    I dont hate the Ducks, but do hate the OSU complacency and acceptance of inferiority. If the NCAA will come down on them in football, the ship might be righted, We can compete in Basketball and baseball….

  • beav4ever says:
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    I think one of the big problems with being a Beaver fan is the ucks have money and we don’t. We will have a hard time keeping up because they keep getting bigger and better because they have better facilities. Just drive around the u of o campus and look at the money that has been spent for athletics. It’s sad to say but the rich get richer and college sports is coming down to who has the most money. I love the Beavs and they are my favorite team , my second favorite team is who ever is playing the ucks.
    Also if you live in Oregon and have to be around uck fans, they make it easy to hate the ucks.

    • Grape says:
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      True, when I see the Ducks playing someone.. I root for the other team because A) They are our instate archival and B) to laugh at their annoying fans.

  • presleydog says:
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    I admit to watching the Kent State game and I say “Suck it Holes!!!!!” I grew up near Eugene and have had to put up with obnoxious dick hole fans for 30 years. I hate those bastards to my core.

    If I see a duck bumper I feel the urge to cut them off and give them the number one sign.

    FTD

    • UofDuck says:
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      Hyporcicy to the ninth degree…”? You want to cut people off and flip them off becasue they are fans of your rival. Gee I wonder if guys like you could be any more blind to how lame the argument is that Duck fans are idiots and are so much worse… Every fan base has idiots….which is abundantly obvious herewith.

  • Jack says:
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    OT… we have another hoops recruit. I have an idea of who it might be, but I need to hear a name (or receive a return email… which won’t happen until tomorrow at this point).

    Unless he’s from Senegal. Then i have no idea.

  • Jack says:
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    Cheikh N’diaye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Big time get… under the radar, but a legit seven footer who has really developed his offense over the last couple years. He could be a game-changer.

    • Jack says:
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      I should have checked my hits. I got hammered last night on the N’diaye page. But it happened a couple weeks ago too when UW fans started hitting it. It doesn’t help that I’m the only blog who has a page on the kid. He and Blake Vedder have to account for 300 hits per week.

      I’m doing my happy dance right now. We got a big man who can play!

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        We need a slow white kid that can hit a three pointer to open up the middle for the bigs. I still have eligibility.

  • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2012/06/oregon_state_beavers_basketbal_109.html

    article just hit Oregonlive announcing the same. Way to break the story last night Jack! Dude looks to have young Tim Duncan type skills. This is very exciting for not only Beaver basketball, but the Pac 12 as well.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Duncan or Mutambo?

      • Jack says:
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        Mutombo is an apt comparison in size, agility and defensive mindset. But N’diaye is further developed at his level than Mutombo was… considering Mutombo didn’t go to school for hoops. He also has better touch on offense than Mutombo ever had. A couple years of banging with the big boys, and we’ll probably lose him to the NBA early. It’s a give and take I guess, but I’m really really happy right now.

        • ObjCritic says:
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          Sweet. Robinson and Casey need to remember you can’t recruit to Corvallis. So do the gymnastic and wresting coaches…

          • bone says:
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            how many stars was this guy. Always nice to have a 7 footer in the paint.

          • Jack says:
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            I don’t know or care what his stars are on the pay sites. But if I were to rate him he would have been a three star as a frosh simply because of his size, athleticism, defense and upside. Now? I believe he’s a solid four star with more upside than he had as a frosh. He is just so massive and so coordinated. And he’s picked up the American game so well since he was just another one of those gangly lost African bigs on the American scene.

            This get allows Coach Rob to go out and pound for anyone at the 2, 3 or 4. N’diaye isn’t the type of player who’s going to take shots away from anyone who thinks they’re a big scorer. In fact, he enhances their game. He’s the kind of C you run a couple sure sets to get his confidence and get the team pumped. Then you just let him touch the ball on every possession and watch our smaller players gain the fruits. There’s no doubt about his motor or demeanor. There’s only upside for this kid.

            If he meets 75% of his potential, he’s going to be a lottery pick. I put him at about 35-40% now.

          • ObjCritic says:
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            He seems like a real game changer – shot blocking and rebounds to kick off the transition game, but as you’ve said, doesn’t need the ball a lot to be an effective impact player. I guy like Cunningham (if he’d had two, not one more years) would love playing with this guy and would reap the rewards.

          • Jack says:
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            Barton, LMW, Robbins and LJ are going to look good with him around. Combo F’s like Devon, Eric and Jarmal won’t have to work like crazy on the boards or defense… not that they’ll stop. And Daniel and Maika will find more than their fair share of easy pickings. The potential match-up nightmares have begun for opposing coaches… two seasons away.

            I’m wondering if we get a “neutral” return game from KU in 2013. 2012 in KC could be fun enough. But give me a year of maturity beyond that, and we’re talking fun.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            We are playing Kansas? When? That is drivable for me.

          • Jack says:
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            I’m pretty sure I heard it correctly. Colorado will start a home and home at Allen, and we will play them at the Sprint Center in KC. I don’t yet know a date.

          • Jack says:
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            We’re also looking to schedule a home and home starting in Corvallis this year with a high major. And all this is in addition to the MSG games with Nova, Bama and Purdue. And I know we go to Charlotte as well.

            That’s half the non-con schedule there, and it includes four quality games.

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      Kid has the size… and can play defense because of it. Damn good get.

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      Just looked over at PO, and they had a post up last night from someone who went to the dinner with MR and CR. They say Coach Rob announced at the dinner that he got the call on the way over, and he knew OSU fans would be excited to see whoever it was in orange and black.

      So credit PO for knowing about it too. I just had a feeling it was another player more than I thought it was Cheikh. I knew Coach Rob was on Cheikh early, and that’s why I’ve been following him for 2+ years. But I never believed he’d still be so far under the radar at this point.

      Good for Coach Rob and his staff for sticking with the kid. Persistence pays off big time with this get.

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      “…Looking at his stats, he struggled from the free-throw line,…”

      He’ll fit right in at OSU.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Can he play DT?

    • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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      I heard he can play a little 3rd base and is a solid relief pitcher

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        Ryan Barnes played well all season. Granted, he messed up in the 2nd LSU game – contributing mightily to the loss – which will probably be how he’s remembered – too bad.

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          isn’t he off the team next year? I don’t blame him for the LSU game 2 loss, those were tough plays for anybody to make.

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            They were incredibly tough plays and the surface was different – it’s just that he had been making that type of play all season, which is why it was so memorable against LSU, game 2.

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          That’s Ryan Dunn, Ryan Barnes will be back next season.

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    The thing that really grinds my gears about duck fans is that the loudest and most outspoken ones I know didn’t go to school there…. they didn’t even go to college. They’re just bandwagon trash whose only association with UO is its proximity to their home town. I love passionate, crazy, obnoxious alumni regardless of the university they attended, but ‘townies’ drive me crazy. If neither yourself nor an immediate family member attended the university, then you’re not a stakeholder in the program’s success and it’s pathetic to talk trash to fans of the other state school who actually went there. Maybe I’m just an elitist dick; which I’d be fine with.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Much better than an elitist duck!

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      You are an elitist dick. That’s why I like you! I agree 100%.
      Better than being an elitist Duck.

    • gotta disagree says:
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      Think you’re being a tad harsh there. I have no problem critizing the way many duck fans talk trash, but your definition of fan, and what it takes to get a seat at the trash talk table, is too narrow. I grew up in Corvallis, but didn’t go to school there, and have been a Beaver fan since I was young. Probably tends to happen more in smaller towns that are centered around the University, and Eugene is in the same camp. A fan is a fan, and can talk trash like a fan. Maybe the manner of the trash talk is beyond the pale, and maybe a bandwagon fan is not a real fan, but I don’t fault a townie so long as the fanhood is genuine.

  • Jack says:
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    Big ups to Conforto!
    http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/061312aad.html

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    Jared Cunningham is working out for the Atlanta Hawks on June 17th and Cleveland on June 18th. He’s also already worked out for the Bulls. Does anybody know if he’s supposed to work out for Portland? They have several workouts scheduled this week, with multiple players, but haven’t announced who those players will be. If he’s busy on the 17th and 18th, this week has opening to come to Portland.

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      I got a hard time seeing Portland as interested seeing as though they already have Elliot Williams

  • Jack says:
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    Scouring the net for anything OSU, and this is just sad…
    http://www.elkgrovesports.com/2012/06/tony-rodriguez-dies-suddenly-at-46.html

    Condolences to Jake and his family.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    WSU gets commit from a 4 star pro-style QB. OSU still waiting on their first commit. In the other post about recruiting I said I didn’t think it was a big deal yet, but this is getting pretty ridiculous.

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      Don’t worry. I heard that as soon as he passes one online class, Simi Kuli will be on campus and be ready for fall camp.

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      OSU and Utah are now the only schools without at least one 4* commit, and Utah at least has 4 3* guys committed.

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        We have walk-on from Newport so it’s all good.

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        This is getting comical, except its not funny. I know they are putting offers out, but they are not attracting anybody. Not locals, not “diamonds in the rough”, definitly not highly touted. WTF, is going on? Are they even working? Do recruits just hate the program? Looks to be the death of the program, and will sink to the depths of the early 90’s. No money coming in from donors or corporate money, or anybody on this board. It will take at least five years to dig out of this whole and that is after the current regime is gone. Reality is we can’t regularly compete against the big programs.

  • Anti Angry says:
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    With Conforto getting so much recognition, begs the question who is the best Beaver freshman ever? Conforto, Quiz, James, Payton? Quiz is always mentioned for USC game but Conforto racking up the awards.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      I’m going to go with Stephanie, or are only talking athletics?

  • BizBeav says:
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    Anyone see this yet?

    I like what they did here with blend of athletics & marketing for OSU.

  • BeavMonkey says:
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    I am a beaver fan.

    I do not root against the ducks.

    In fact, the only offputting thing for me was the obvious fact that they had no engineering school.

    Don’t know why people hate the ducks. I mean really, we’re from the same state.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      Reside in Eugene or Springfield and you might know why.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    What highly rated recruit wants to go to a college with a losing football program. I believe the outlook on Mike Riley is quite different than what his idiot supporters think about him. Around the Pac12 and other colleges know how poor a coach he is.

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      Where do you get your information? Everything you write in comments is complete BS. We get it, man – you don’t like Mike Riley. I think you would be hard pressed to find any coach out there who doesn’t think Mike Riley has a great football mind.

      Bottom line is that Oregon State football has had two poor seasons in a row. Mike Riley’s track record this century is solid enough that he has earned 2 or 3 poor seasons. This is an opinion that I share with the majority of Oregon State fans/alumni. You guys on here are the very vocal minority. A lot of the commentary on this website is great, but some of you need to give it a rest because it is quickly devolving into the bullshit you read in the Oregonlive comments.

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    And Devans replacement is… Tavita Thompson

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    “We are very fortunate to be able to get Tavita this late in the year to be part of our staff,” Riley said in a press release. “Tavita has shown a great interest in coaching and this will be a natural position for him as he continues his career path. He’s an outstanding addition to our program.”

    Does anybody think this sounds a bit like… ohh… I don’t know, “I am very lucky to get housing in Corvallis on September 22nd when school starts on the 24th. The place seems to be a perfect fit, and the insects and rodents don’t bother me one bit.”

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    The OSU tv schedule is out tentatively….right now…Nicholls St. is at noon on Pac-12 Networks(whatever this means) and the Wisconsin game is at 1 pm on FX…here we go again!! We’re stuck in the noon-1pm slots again!! :/ Doesn’t that tell you where the Pac-12 thinks we’re at?! The *ucks get national Televised game against Arkansas St. at the late game time slot on ESPN…Really?!

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      You win……you get the best. You lose……..you get what’s left over.

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        No surprise. Bad teams get the least desirable times. Could be worse. We have five 11:00 AM starts this year at Minnesota. Really screws the tailgating.

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    Josh Williams suspended indefinitely.

    I checked the police logs, and he’s not listed anywhere. Although, there was this nugget which pretty much describes a typical CPD bust:

    Friday, June 8
    TRESPASSING: 5:40 p.m., 300 block of Northwest 31st Street. Tonie Jeanetta Athill, 23, of Corvallis, was cited for a charge of second-degree criminal trespass after she reportedly entered her roommate’s bedroom during an argument and refused to leave. Athill reportedly was upset because the roommate refused to move her vehicle to give Athill enough room to park her vehicle in the driveway.

    I don’t think MR suspends players for failing academically. Does he? I’m guessing something like a locker room scuffle or study hall absence.

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    Pretty sure we can eliminate marijuana since Cliff Harris smoked it all. JB

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    I don’t think I posted this at the time. It’s a couple weeks old, but congrats to the SAE team… again.
    http://corvallis.kval.com/news/news/256636-threepeat-speedy-beavers-osu-make-car-racing-history

    I think this one was mentioned:
    http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/osu-racquetball-team-wins-th-straight-title/article_e87db52e-7e09-11e1-af7e-0019bb2963f4.html

    Rugby fell to UCSB in the D2 round of 16.

    And LAX missed out on nationals after finishing the season with a 1-3 run to end up 8-6. But the big news from them this season was their new helmets, which I think the football team should adopt stat. Those things are awesome!
    http://www.lacrosseplayground.com/oregon-state-lacrosse-matte-black-helmets/

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      I agree with how cool the helmets are. But it wont happen in football with De Care Less and MR running the show. Its a shame, being so far behind the times in football.

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        Isn’t it amazing that someone did something precisely as we have been talking about it for years, and it turns out perfect? Those helmets are beyond solid. They’re old school and cool at the same time.

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        I keep hoping that this is their last gasp. But it’s put OSU behind the times and will take more than a little time to recover. I can’t help but wonder what MR (and those in attendance) thought as CR was announcing his new recruit whilst MR had nothing the least bit exciting to report. I wonder if MR said “neat, Craig.”

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          They need to bring back Benny and ditch the Muskrat.

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            Heh…

            That conversation again? I think they just need to ditch cartoons altogether. I like the all black matte helmets. Absolutely nobody wears an all black helmet (except maybe Army for one game a couple years ago against AFA?). It would be immediately recognizable and speak “old school” and “cool” at the same time. In an era of foo foo glam and glitz, it would be awesome to get down and dirty wearing the black hats in college football.

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            Oregon State should have stuck with the black matte helmets after that ’09 civil war. At this point there are multiple other schools (not just Oregon) that are using that matte look and I’m not sure if it would even make us stand out at this point. We had a chance, but now it would look like we’re just following the crowd.

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            I’m not talking about the great big shiny stripeys all over a big black matte helmet. I’m talking all black matte period. Look at the LAX helmets linked above. Even if they didn’t add the sparkly orange masks, that would be one sharp helmet. And simply black means it would be just OSU wearing them. Everyone else (and us right now) is so hell-bent on slapping some logo on their helmets that they would be the followers. Hell, they are now as it is.

          • angry angry says:
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            You’d think we’d learn from the 80s that glam isn’t a good look. Earth to Ducks.
            Everyone’s downsizing everything. Time to get simple and keep it simple.

            The people who think these uber-modern glam uniforms are cool are probably listening to the remastered Poison discography while cruising the strip in their yellow Hummers.

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    Many thanks for that – I can’t even imagine the world-wide competition that the engineers are up against and the minds it takes to achieve OSU’s status. I hope this accomplishment is touted to prospective students and student-athletes. OSU is an amazing place!

    The other sports, too. I’m delighted to learn about them.

    Agree – the helmets are awesome – and I don’t really give a whit about uniforms.

    Now, if you can just find out what the OSU bass fishing team is doing these days.

  • Jack says:
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    Our next QB?

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      He looks just like Matt Moore throwing it.

      I think this guy could be great. Looks like he sees the field really well.

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        Good call on the Matt Moore comparison.

    • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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      I need that music to be playing next time I plan to do something epic. Just put it on a loop.

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      You may be on to something. He should fit right in with the high percentage of of interceptions.
      With Danny coaching him he can easily throw more picks than TDs LOL.

      Seriously, sounds like a great prospect. I’m ready to be disappointed. We need some positive news on the recruiting front.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Great video on Johnny Stanton, but remember Riley and company will not let his QB run or let them throw a pass over 10 yards. To MR……..it’s just too dangerous. What a joke. We need a head coach and offensive coach who will allow the run option and some big play down field passes. You have to allow both these things today to be competitive.

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      If the O-line could have blocked worth a shit and the receivers could get open downfield over the last 2 years, you’d have seen more downfield passing.

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        I agree, and, oh…….who is ultimately responsible for getting O line up to par to execute their blocks correctly……..hummmmm?

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      this is completely inaccurate. a refusal by riley (who did not call the plays last year, langsdorf did) to throw the ball down field was not the problem. mannion threw for over 3300 yards, mainly because the running game was non existent. http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/504786/sean-mannion.

      • angry angry says:
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        Mannion’s numbers were so good considering he was a freshman playing behind one of the worst lines in the NCAA

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          everything but the TD/INT ratio was awesome. unfortunately i don’t see the o-line being much better this year, but hopefully brown and woods can be weapons out of the backfield and teams have to play the run at least a little bit more. that could mean a few less interceptions.

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            Spring was a joke but keep in mind Seumalo and Hasiak are rolling in this fall. I’m putting Hasiak on my short list of guys to watch, along with DJ Welch and Chris Brown.

            I’m not saying the Oline will be perfect but it should be a far cry from walk on central like it has been.

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            it could be considerably better, but true freshman central isn’t a whole lot better than walk on central.

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            Yes it is.

            Besides, I always questioned why walk on central started given who their fathers are. I’m sure it’s all on the up and up, but poor perceptions could have been avoided with at least half decent play.

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            i guess it depends on who those true freshman are. it would be interesting to go back a few years and see if it’s easy to tell when that trend started.

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        Hummmmmm………so what does MR calling plays have to do with what I stated. Is MR not head coach, their to make sure they have a capable offensive coach to call plays? Oh, I guess MR just forgot to do something about Langdorf”s poor play calling. Who’s responsible for making sure players can execute and make the running game work. I don’t see Chip Kelley having a problem getting his players to execute. The head coach, is responsible for all aspects of his team. slamadam, you might volunteer to help MR come up with excuses for this years failures.

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          im not making excuses for him. there’s tons to complain about reasonably with riley, but you claim riley QB’s don’t throw the ball down field essentially because he and his coaching staff don’t allow it , and last year that was absolutely not the case. at all. i have no problems criticizing riley. he deserves it. just make criticisms that are actually true. that way you’ll be a lot more likely to sound like you know what you’re talking about.

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    I hated the Ducks when they were bad, I hate them when they are good. Feels good to hate the Ducks. Feels better when the Beavers win. Feels the best when the Beavers beat the Ducks at anything.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Yes, whether or not the Beavs had been headed to the CWS I would’ve been rooting for Kent State.

      • mckalk says:
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        I liked that the Ducks got beat by the underdog. That’s not happening much anymore with Duck sports. Horton is a great coach, but he’s doing a lot of “promising” to get them to the CWS lately. Baseball is a fickle sport, I’d love to see that never happen for the Ducks.

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    UCLA 9 Stony Brook 1
    Arizona 4 Florida state 3 (12 innings)

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Starr gets sixth season. Another arm for next year.

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    Don’t think this was linked yet. I’m a sucker for 7-footers that move well and have a soft touch….

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    Tyler Trosin isn’t a Beaver anymore

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    The players are starting to jump ship. Football players may not be happy with what is happening or NOT happening under BDC and MR. But they can’t say anything publicly. This is probably only the start.

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    Sooooo…Trosin’s not one of the players “let go” by the coaches is he?

    We never did see who was leaving.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Linebacker Josh Williams was suspended indefinitely by MR for breaking team rules.

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    My biggest concern is that defecting players leak their play books? Opposing coaches would be able to pick apart Banker’s vaunted defense and put in defenses that would repeatedly pick-off Mannion’s passes and eliminate the running game. If they are onto our double-secret schemes it could be a long season. JB

    PS: What…. this is already happening? Never mind.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Dropping the offensive playbook into the hands of opponents could be a successful ploy if the plan remains to use only 4 pages of the entire book. Think of the confusion!

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        Good point… I didn’t think of that. Wiley Riley, maybe a new nickname? JB

      • Fightingbeaver says:
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        To even think of such a scheme is deplorable…..sinking below the dark abyss of duckville. Playbooks under MR are so predictable anyway, nobody needs to study them.

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      Strategies and plays so secret even Banker & Langsdorf don’t know them…

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    Indiana has a recruit now….down to OSU and Idaho as major college programs without a commit.

    • Jack says:
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      If you’re going to include non-BCS schools then there are more. A quick scan shows Troy, Wyoming, Weber State, Nevada, SJSU, UNM, NMSU and probably a couple others… Idaho State?

      Btw… I went to Rivals for that scan, and their lead story is about Francis Owusu still considering the Beavs. Does anyone know if that story posted before or after he committed to Stanford this morning? And was there ever any doubt he would go to Stanford?

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    OT… I hate it when soccer players flop and feign injury!

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    Kent State is up 4-0 in the 3rd inning vs #1 Florida, in a CWS elimination game. The Golden Show….er, I mean Flashes lost their starting pitcher in the 2nd inning but haven’t skipped a beat.

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    Just spotted a “Great day to be a Beaver” tweet from Riley. First commit finally?

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    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/6/18/3092692/2012-oregon-state-beavers-football-preview

    Interesting, in-depth read. Although I don’t agree with all the conclusions(such as last year’s pass defense being very good”) it’s still very detailed.

  • Jack says:
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    Terin Solomon, DB, Vista Murrieta

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    Tyler and brother have had issues in the Folsom community and at school.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Tonight we are all Golden Flashes! Glad to see an SEC team choke. FL coach looks like a first class A-hole. Kent State tried to give away the game with some really bad pitching in the last inning.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Kent State gets another chance to eliminate another SEC team AND the two time defending national champs on Wednesday night. It would be awesome if Kent State eliminated Oregon and 3 SEC teams in the same postseason.

      • riverduck says:
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        The farther Arizona and Kent state go, the better the ducks look btw

        • Jack says:
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          Living vicariously through another team’s wins now? That’s kinda sad.

          You know… an argument could be made that OSU had the second best team in the nation in 2008 since Fresno went on to win it all.

          See how really silly that logic is? Well… see how really silly that fallacy is?

  • seo services says:
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    Outstanding quest there. What occurred after?
    Thanks!

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