30.Aug.2012 Pac-12 Network Petition

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Sign here: sign me!

This is the Pac-12's statement on the issue:

“If you’re one of the fans who won’t be satisfied without Pac-12 football, or our more than 135 men’s basketball games and hundreds of other live events, we recommend finding Pac-12 Networks with another television provider."

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FYI: The season started today, and Comcast still doesn't have games streaming, so not sure I'd follow the Pac-12 advice and switch if you're not in Oregon.

Only boy wonder, Larry Scott, who got played by the Big 12 and played a second time by the providers, could have fans reminiscing about the Tom Hansen era. This is not a neat deal!

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  • Numbers says:
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    I had such high hopes. This product is pathetic. Get your act together.
    Numbers

  • Max says:
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    I had almost forgot how badly Larry got played by the Big-12 last year. I think people at UT are still laughing about it while they count their money. They must have given his contact info to Comcast.

  • angry angry says:
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    I’m going to be in the chat for a bit.
    http://angrybeavs.com/chat

    It’s a good place to watch non beaver games together/comment rather than leave comments about utah et al in these threads.

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    LOL, I live in LA and I can’t get UCLA, Utah only, not even via pac-12.com. To watch WSU it takes me to ESPN and the video is crap. BYU and WSU are CHIPPING each other like crazy. A lot of pushing and shoving and yellow flags flying.

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    So is the LA channel the same as the National channel? It seems tonight it is. I think I paid for a couple channels. Not 2 channels that play the exact same thing.

  • presleydog says:
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    what stopped this from getting done with direct tv? Anyone have any background on this?

  • presleydog says:
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    there is this on the issues and what each side wants

    http://www.pacifictakes.com/2012/8/28/3273710/pac-12-network-directv-rumors

  • JD says:
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    Just signed the linked petition. Lets see some more of us get in there and represent our displeasure with the way that the Pac12 network has played out so far.

  • Will Overhead says:
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    Let’s be clear about one thing: The fault lies entirely at the Commissioner’s office, not at DirectTV’s. Larry Scott’s mouth shouldn’t write checks (make promises) that can’t be cashed (fulfilled).

    Big 10. TV everywhere. Waiting for the third strike…

    • sparkyd73 says:
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      Have you been at the negotiation table, Will? I have DirectTV and I’m in a contract and it will cost me to switch, so I very much hope that they can come to a solution.

      I don’t know what you mean about writing checks that can’t be cashed. We complain in the blogospere that Mike Riley doesn’t set lofty goals or aim his expectations high enough. We complained that the old commissioner was to stuffy and lacked imagination. And now we have a commissioner that has constantly kept the Pac-10/12 in the news cycle for the past couple of years and we complain that he is not hitting his lofty goals? I’m glad I don’t have you looking over my shoulder at work discussing every decision I make with 20/20 hindsight.

      Yes, Texas played us, and the Pac-12 network launch has been poor, but we now have a network (or 6 networks) and schools like OS are beginning to receive more money than they would have dreamed 10 years ago. Conferences started realligning because of the Pac-12 and there has been a constant buzz about an often forgotten West Coast power conference.

      To use your baseball analogy: Larry Scott may not be hitting homeruns every at bat but he has hit some very nice singles and doubles and is keeping the ball in play. A strike or even 3 is fine if they are each to different batters.

      • Will Overhead says:
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        No, I have not been at the negotiating table. I do, however, speak with someone who was direclty outside the room, and has a much closer perspective than I, and I would guess you, too, do.

        I would agree with you on a few points: Yes, lofty goals have their place. Yes, the old Commish was stuffy etc. And, yes, overall, the Pac-12 network concept and implementation is a ery BIG step in a much better direction than where the old conference was stuck. Remember the Pac-16 he was shopping around before the deals were cut for the -12?

        But lofty goals are one thing; big promises are another. You can’t change a promise to a goal post facto to avoid responsibility for failure. When the Commish tells a reporter, “You’ll see everything no matter where you are, provided you’re a subscriber” and subscribers can’t, how in the hell does calling that a “lofty goal” make it any better? Scott repeatedly assured folks over the past year that he “expects” a deal for DirectTV, as if that pressure would help in negotiating with a company that has a long track record of playing hardball with carriage.We’re two weeks in – is it a lofty goal or failed promise?

        Has Scott raised the profile of the Pac? Decidedly so, in many areas to positive effect. The networks deal certainly created a ton of buzz and excitement, and, yes, has kept Scott and Stevenson in the news for the past two months. And, yes, I know the old saw about how the is no such thing as bad publicity – which is a poor defense for broken promises.

        Scott promised TV everywhere – it isn’t. Scott promised a Big-10 deal, It fell. Yes, those are two black eyes, while there are certainly plenty of beauty marks to offset them. What a lofty goal to have – avoid black eyes from reaching too far for a supersized deal?

        Third strike – I was not using a baseball analogy; I was thinking instead about how things will strike in threes. But, since you bring up baseball, again, I will agree, at least partway: Scott has hit a few good hits. The TV deals, however, were more akin to the legendary “called shot.” Imagine if Ruth really had called the shot – and hit a single…

        Now imagine that he did it repeatedly.

        Hey – I’ll take Scott over Hansen; I, along with many, was calling for a trade years ago. It feels like we’ve gone from sitting on a wet blanket to riding a crazy roller coaster. Me? I’d be more content with a something halfway in between, with out so much drama, and without being the league’s deals being a punch line again soon.

        You and I do have the luxury of not having you or I second guessing our jobs in fora like these around the webs – but Scott does, and wades into the media to spout of his goals, expectations, or promises with confidence and swagger, and when it doesn’t happen the way Larry sez, it looks, well, if not bad, certainly not good. You’re right: Why criticize? It’s all good publicity (’cause we all know all publicity is good publicity.)

    • Jack says:
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      Dish is dumping BTN at midnight. So much for “everywhere.”

      All this carriage slap-fighting is unrelated to the TV deal the Pac 12 signed anyway. It’s important in order to give Pac fans access to everything all the time. But it’s not going to affect the bottom line.

      What I find interesting is that Scott isn’t using DTV to play against Comcast and Cox in Chicago, Houston and DC (and I hear Minnesota, Indiana and Tennessee?). DTV has an opportunity to steal a lot of customers from the cable companies if they offer a national Pac access. And if that happens, then the cable providers may have to turn those lights on to save their retention rates. That means they add some six or so million more subscribers to the Pac 12 Network rolls.

      • Jack says:
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        Hmmm… Apparently all of Illinois, Indiana and Michigan are cut out. That’s a lot of people.

        • WFO WFO says:
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          That’s the thing that always smelled funny to me about this deal-comcast was “it” from the first day. Took forever for anybody else to negotiate out a deal,but comcast was there insantly? Always felt a little shady to me.

  • beavers4life beavers4life says:
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    Anyone see the scores around the Pac-12 tonight?! Surprising numbers from 3 of the 4 teams playing Thursday night games. UCLA beat Rice 49-24 with these stats:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322430242

    Then there was Arizona State playing at home against Northern Arizona! Almost pitching a shut out they win 63-6 with scoring 42 pts in the first half and only 21 in the second half. Here’s the stats for this game:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322430009

    The other coaching change where we all wanted this coach may surprise most! Leach takes the Cougs to Utah to play BYU and lay up a big 6 pts on the other Cougars(BYU). Looks like there are still growing pains in the Pulloose. BYU wins 30-6.

    Here’s the stats for this game:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322430252

    The team to preserve the shutout is Utah at home against Northern Colorado, but not before getting shut out in the first quarter, but after that quarter, it was all Utah! Scoring 21 pts in the second quarter, and 20 more pts combined in the second half. This season will be interesting come week two because Oregon State will be the only “unknown” team in the pac-12 coming into the second week of play. I just hope we’re competitive against Wisconsin and score at least 1 TD against them and turn the ball over less than that. 🙂

    Here’s the stats on the Utah game:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322430254

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      Yeah I was kind of surprised how bad WSU looked. After all the hype I’ve been seeing about them going into the season I was expected to see much more out of them. I’m really hoping I’ll be able to say the same thing about UW after the UW-SDSU game!

  • beavers4life beavers4life says:
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    On another note, New Mexico St. looks even better this year than last year! They beat Sac. St. 49-19 at home! lol

  • BradyBeav says:
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    on a side note, since you guys have nothing to do with the game being rained out, does anyone want to play in a 10 team auction draft fantasy football league? Just email dallarda@yahoo.com and I can get you in. We need about 4-5 more people.

    • angry angry says:
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      I joined.

      Guys, fill this thing up–4 more of you.
      Brady is an ol’ Georgia Tech buddy of mine and a hell of a guy!

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Boy that Air Raid sure was entertaining as all hell to watch! Goes to show Leach will need some time to build the program, just like everyone else. No instant wins, just add water. On a more serious note, BYU does look tough. Just like last year they have a big, mean, punishing team. That was probably the most depressing game of the year to be at, because they did basically the same thing to us. There should probably be a rule limiting the amount of 23 and over players, cause those dudes are ruthless. Provo is not going to be a fun place to play this year.

    Man I wish I was heading down to Reser tomorrow, depressing, And of course it happens on a long weekend.

  • Jack says:
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    OT… from the “Good (your deity or not)! Shoot me now!” files… Twitter just blew up over a pic:
    http://instagram.com/p/O_0CtvO0yH/

    • WFO WFO says:
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      Do people think it’s funny or is someone actually butthurt about it?

      I think OSU should have their own job search engine for OSU grads and call it “Beaver Hunt”.

      • Jack says:
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        Ok… I can go with being intentionally awkward while feigning innocence in order to garner more attention–something along the lines of “any publicity is good publicity.” So it can’t be as obvious as the hunt idea. But I’m sure we could come up with a ton of great double entendres which might seem as innocently awkward as this one.

        After a while, people might catch on that it was intentional, and that could be a story in and of itself.

    • Jack says:
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      I love the comment:
      “Coincidently, this is also *my* new campaign. ….ladies?”

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT but its a slow week now = what’s the deal with UO’s pending punishment? Do we now anticipate no announcement until AFTER the season? I’d read that on some site somewhere….

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