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Poor Writing at the Oregonian

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Hey Beavlettes,

I’m back home and trying to catch up on things. So I go to the Oregonian figuring I’d get my cup of generic tea, but instead I’m served a steaming pile of horseshit writing. Check this out:

The case for Irvine: He boasts the most ideal frame and best 1-on-1 coverage ability in this young group. But with that skill set, maybe he will legitimately challenge for a starting cornerback job. That’s where he’s listed on the new depth chart, after all, after holding the No. 1 nickelback spot after spring practice.

What the hell? Is that English?

Why is there a “But” and “maybe” in sentence 2? Why not just say “With that skill set, he will challenge for the starting cornerback job.”??

“That’s where he’s listed on the new depth chart, after all, after holding the No. 1 nickelback spot after spring practice.”

Ah, the old tried and true “after all after”. By why/how does “after all” make sense in that context?

I first noticed awful writing on Yahoo, which had to be 10 to 15 years ago. Now it’s everywhere, and it’s become the norm. I’m thinking it’s due to people being short/incoherent via text messages, but even so, if you’re a professional writer you’d hope you could form complete, coherent sentences, and if not, you’d hope your editor would put the kibosh on ^^ this ^^ before going to print.


To the point of the article, I think Irvine will definitely start. Maybe not game 1 depending how slow GA is to get the best players on the field, but soon into the season. Wallace and Wilson are good looking players. Williams doesn’t look the part, but he gets the job done. I’d think those 4 are the top talent (pretty thin) at CB. I’m bullish on Landry Payne.

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  1. I agree with you about Irvine but i also am expecting some good things out of Williams. He might be the fastest player on the team and had a nice spring. Wilson’s highlights out of highschool were pretty impressive as well hopefully he can make those kind of plays in college. Overall very thin and young group.

    • Gina’s an interesting case; she churns out a lot of material during the season and is a bigwig in an organization which promotes college journalism activities. While some of her writing shows the deficiencies noted above and follows a predictable format, I still much prefer her to Lindsay. Gina has introduced some good analytical themes which we never saw from Schnell.

      Oh, welcome back to angry, hope the project was a success.

      • I like Gina, but she can’t write. The sentences are incoherent.
        And where’s the editor?

        I’m not sure if she or Schnell is a worse writer. Tough call, but Gina is likeable and cool. Schnell is awful.

  2. That structure is the editor’s fault.

    It looks like a second draft where either the author did some cut and paste and ended up with odd connectors here and there… before the edit. I’m thinking Gina would have caught this.

    More than likely it was some moron hired by the cheapo cut-and-paste “news organization” cutting out sentences and words to make it fit a predetermined count which was less than was asked of the talent.

    • I think a big part of why you’re seeing these sloppy mistakes in online articles is because they can run the story and edit on the fly now. Sometimes the priority to get something (anything) out there, and then as mistakes are caught by readers or editors, they can be fixed with a few keystrokes and pushed out without anybody knowing. You’ll notice pretty much every online story on the O has a “published on” and “updated” timestamp. Most of these stories dont hit the print edition, so they don’t sweat the permanancy of their mistakes.

  3. Things are slow, maybe it is time for “way too early” predictions. Our old buddy Cliff K links to stories in the Statesman Journal; they’ve got the Beavs down 34-23 vs the Gophers.

    Same rag has ucks being beaten by Huskers, 38-30. Quote, “Cornhuskers have a coach who knows Oregon well”

  4. Anybody else get a call from the OSU ticket office offering a special $100 season ticket package? I didnt get any other details but that’s so cheap for 6 games. Wish I could make it down to Corvallis this year.

    • “He threw for 1,676 yards and nine touchdowns, but completed just 119-of-235 pass attempts.”

      Yeah….no thanks! 50.6% completion rate for 12 games, I’d rather keep Seth at QB.

    • Can’t imagine he would go to Syracuse. They are on probation and will be for most of any time he would spend there. This includes losing 12 scholarships over 4 years I believe. Their team will be weaker than most ACC teams with those lost scholarships, so would be tough to field a competitive team.

      Continuing dad’s legacy sounds like a neat deal, but at the expense of your career, probably not a great idea.

      Of course nothing guarantees his dad will stay at OSU or that they’ll be competitive even

      • He’s been mentioning Cal a lot over the last few years and they were one of the only teams a few years ago to start going hard at him when others assumed he’d just go to OSU. Cuonzo Martin has also been killing it for Cal on the recruiting trail since he arrived. If he goes anywhere but OSU, my guess is Berkeley

      • I think it wasnt till around september 2 years ago, when we heard from all of the guys in Tinkle’s first class that they were planning to come here. Could be he’s trying to give the appearance of being open to all options so it doesnt look too much like dad is forcing his hand at all.

    • Some kids just want to strike out on their own. I didn’t go to the same school my dad went to even though he wanted me to go to his alma mater. I didn’t go where my siblings went or my friends. It was the best choice for me and still is.

  5. I listened to simonton on the canzano show it was pretty interesting. He said that he believes Andersen needs his players and that some of the players just have that i just want to go home kind of attitude. Sounds about right on track with what happened with Andersen taking only limited players to the civil war game.

    I also read an article by thr salt lake tribune (i think) and they had a quote by sitake saying he believes that the beavs will be competing for a championship in a couple of years because of the way they R recruiting. FWIW

    • When people say “a couple” I always assume they literally mean “two”. But I find that most of the time this is not true (anymore). In this case I doubt Sitake means the Beavs will be competing for a championship in two years. If he does, then he’s getting better weed down there than he got up here.

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