Positives:
- Play calling.
- Effort was there.
- Blount and Luton both played well. Like Blount more due to command of the offense and gutsy player. Luton can get hot but mean reverts with a large sample.
- D played well in the 2nd half.
- Given that this game was at 4.5k elevation, they seemed well-conditioned.
- Just overall better looking team than under GA despite loosing talent.
- Wide Receivers finally broke out. Been high on that unit for a while now, so good to see that.
Negatives:
- The Kicker. We need a new one.
- Smith’s use of timeouts (very Riley-esque to leave two on the table and also play not to lose).
- Team wasn’t ready out of the gate, so still waiting for four quarters of play.
Biggest issue was we’re now at 21 straight loses on the road. That albatross had to be lifted this weekend. I don’t see another opportunity this year. It’s possible we catch a team overlooking us and nab one, but this was the shot. I like what I’ve seen from Smith overall, and I loved the play calling tonight (didn’t see one comment about it all game until that final play), but man, he definitely has some Riley in him. Leaving those two timeouts on the table and playing not to lose was straight out of Riley’s book. I wonder if Riley got in his ear and told him how to manage those last few plays.
I like Blount running the O more simply because the opposing defense has to respect the read option portion of our offense. When Luton is in they will only key on the running back. Luton will never keep it and hurt anybody with his feet. Their passing skills are equal, therefore I am going to default to Blount.
Their passing skills are nowhere near equal. Their abilities to make plus plays are about equal. Blount now has the ability to make many more negative plays… usually for immediate points… so, I guess the D can rest.
I thought the ESPN announcers were annoying overall, but they made a good point about Blount not understanding how to step up in the pocket. That will be problematic if he can’t fix it.
What a bunch of non-quitters. Disgusting. We knew how to quit like big boys when I was there!
56 passes to 40 runs. I like the balance, of course the runs weren’t there like the last 2 games. Turnover for/against needs to change. i think all our turnovers tonight turned into points correct?
Incorrect.
Luton’s pick was 3 and out plus an immediate march back to the endzone for us.
Ok, I couldn’t remember. Still 14 point on turnovers is too much.
Hey angry, if you need some “inspiration” for time with the lady later tonight, McM is playing on Fox Sports 1 right now :)
That’s a relative term.
UCLA is a hot mess right now. It’s going to take at least half a season for Kelly to take the prima away from the donnas.
https://twitter.com/ESPNCFB/status/1041155476224913408
First reply, they approve.
https://twitter.com/HailTheFlatTail/status/1041171004326797312
BOOM roasted
https://giphy.com/gifs/boom-headshot-noisy-11duMLMvh7XW3C
And then it occurs to me… now would be a great time to do the Harlem Shuffle.
Nobody else is doing it.
Kids these days and their damn turnover trinkets.
Personally I liked the turnover couch that gets set on fire after a takeaway.
That one actually sounds interesting.
I’m guessing it’s West Virginia.
No West Virginia is either firing a black powder rifle into the crowd or a pull off a meth pipe….or both.
I don’t think WV is a big meth state, despite everyone around them being heavy meth states.Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio and especially Indiana, Missouri and Oklahoma are meth heavy states.
I think WV is really bad for prescription opiates… not as bad as Florida, but bad.
Turn over pill bottle with grandma’s name on it?
Why does nobody have a tractor tire yet?
Or a spatula… or a mattress?
I know that there are no moral victories. With that being said, the fighting to make this even a game was good to see and heck it was still entraining. There for some time in the 1st half it look as if this was going to be a blow out.
The Beavers had chances to win this game even outside of the missed kick at the end; turning it over with an int in the red zone did not help nor did the fumble for TD it sure put the screws to them; just to name a few. Knowing that the teams has the coaching and the will to fight back is a good sign. It is still too early to know whom this team is but if we are still seeing this sort of fight later in the season against better Pac-12 teams it will show us the coaching staff is for real and with better recruits can turn this thing around. Now next year, there should be no excuse for losing games like this and if it continues to happen then we are in trouble again.
My major fear for the team is the run defense and how the QBs will not throw the ball away. If the pass is not there then throw the darn ball away. I rather have that then to see Luton or Blount run around out there looking to fumble the ball.
Fair to criticize this was an outing against lower tier opponent on the schedule.
Can’t deny this team displays some fighting spirit, that was lacking later in games under prior coach.
I was in the strong: “Blount for starter” group. However it was pretty clear Luton was better tonight, particularly in managing the pocket. Blount may still be the best gluing forward, but you really have to be biased to say Blount was better tonight.
Also I think the number of timeouts in the pocket is poor analysis. Nevada was looking worse because they had WASTED their timeouts and were in deep trouble. In fact, time and play management was so good we had all three available at the last drive. Problem had nothing to do with how many timeouts were left. The issue is simply: do you continue to run the ball at risk of fumbling or losing yardage, or do you kick the ball, with risk being our kicker has sucked this year.
And if you hadn’t watched the rest of the game or season, you would choose to do the safe thing, and set up for a sure FG.
But some of us have watched every second, some twice or more.
If I am to believe coaches spend innumerable amounts of time watching tape, it really didn’t show in this game.
The sure thing was not our K. It was Jefferson and Hodgins and Hernandez… and maybe Smalls. And none of them were given a chance.
Not sure what you’re reading between the lines, but this was posted in the prior thread and before this thread went up:
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1041156653888860161
Smith had enough confidence in the O to go for it (successfully) on fourth down twice in the drive and yet not enough confidence to give that same O a down or two to punch it in knowing that there were TO’s available?
Instead he risks it all on “our kicker (who) has sucked all year”
That is the essence. ^^^
In fairness to Blount, the O-line gave Luton much better pass protection than they did Blount or at least it appeared that way. I suspect the coaches made some block assignment adjustments at half time. That said, I thought Luton finally looked the part of a FBS QB.
This loss is on me fellas. After Choukair missed the first fg, and Luton threw the red zone int, I had the thought that I should just shut it off and they will probably come back and win. Instead, I was lured by the thought to keep listening. Hoping against my better judgment, based on history guided by experience, these are games the Beavs do not win. Why should tonight be any different? I let myself get roped into listening to the bitter unsurprising end. I will try to not let it happen again. Maybe the Beavs will actually be competitive in a few more games this year than last, which is still a form of improvement.
Uhhhh yeah! What he said!
Riley would have lost this game in the first half. There would have been no motivational coaching and the players would have given up.
I was impressed with the coach coaching a comeback and a team that could be coached to come back.
The shits that courage was lacking at the end.
Calling Bruce Reed ….
Easy there, let’s not get crazy now…
Because LSU didn’t happen?
I’d rather have Cookus.
Every time someone wants to extoll his coaching acumen, I have to wonder who the Cowboys chose to replace him.
I’ll add too many sacks/negative plays to the negs; left a lot on the field because of that.
On a happier note, I recemtly found out Norm MacDonald has a show on Netflix. It’s called “Norm MacDonald Has a Show”
No matter what happens in football, Norm can get me laughing and everythimgs fine. It’s actually pretty entertaining if you enjoy his sense of humor
Have you seen his interview show on YouTube? I’ve listened to a bunch of them and they are great. Just him and usually another comedian having a conversation.
That’s basically what this show is. He has 10 episodes where it’s a loose and uncensored 1/2 hour interview with a guest. No audience other than a few random crew members you can hear laughing in the background. I haven’t seen his youtube show, so i’ll have to check that out after I finish this
Nice. Love Norm!
“I wonder if Riley got in his ear and told him how to manage those last few plays.”
That might turn out to be a good thing, in that JS will let that be the LAST time.
Still a longshot which doesn’t offset the gut punch loss.
McMaryion leads Fresno State to a 38-14 win at the Rose Bowl.
In other news, Angry’s hometown reports a tissue shortage.
He threw for 1TD and ran for 4!
What a player.
With an injured back!
Surprised Tedford kept him in for the last several minutes with a commanding lead.
Sad to lose him, but if that was the price we had to pay to get rid of Anderpants, it was worth it.
We paid nothing.
So I guess it was better than you think.
GA was an elite judge of QB talent. He also had an keen eye for kickers.
Glad to see McMaryion succeed. Unlike Jack, I don’t view him as a quitter or by proxy a piece of shit for leaving the team. In his world people should keep working hard under a piece of shit boss who promises a raise and takes it away, continually mismanages the company, and lacks character (you know like having a drinking problem, possible scandal with cheerleaders) I’m rooting for McMaryion to make it as far as he can go because he was a good teammate, good player, and under Smith’s direction would have made a good QB.
And he beat UCLA- something our QBs could only wish to do. Gary Andersen is a garbage human being and he deserves misery for being such a fraud.
He deserves some lenience for doing the right thing. He could have saddled us with a bunch of debt and buried this program even deeper.
McMaryion went back home also, so that takes the mercenary element out of it for me. It’s a nice story, he wasn’t going to be used by GA.
As for GA, I hate the Huskies, but kind of glad Utah got smacked. I don’t want any success on any level for GA, he needs to not be coaching again. I don’t think a lot of Whittingham for letting back in to the gang either.
Of course he was going to be used by GA.
What gives you the idea he wasn’t?
i would like to see where in GA’s contract it said he would be paid in full if he walks away from his contract. Barnes allowed him to walk without GA paying the buyout to get out of it.
He could have just shown up, slacked off, and continued sucking for a fat paycheck and eventual buyout, but he didn’t. Guessing that’s what Doozeldorf means.
Of course that’s what he means. GA said he would leave if he couldn’t make it work. And we weren’t going to fire him for any cause, since there was no reason to do so… except for his assistant coaching hires.
You all have convinced yourselves that a guy who kept his word is some evil entity based on lies you have now made myth.
He’s gone, and you all need to check your panties for tracks a year later.
That second part is a lie formed by a feeble mind.
I have applied no judgment to him other than to clarify what you all believe should be applied to someone who quits on his team. He did what he thought was best for him. At that point, he is no longer my concern. You all want to apply some kind of blame to someone for him quitting due to his decision to quit.
He’s not a quitter at OSU because I do or don’t view him as one. He’s one because of his actions.
And then you go off on some shit rant about rumors planted by Wiscy trolls.
Like I said… feeble mind.
Articles about FS/UCLA game give credit 2 McM but it seems FS has an over-all good team.
My Golden Rodents shut them down last week. 3M made some good plays, but only a momentum changing fumble made it a game. The smack down at UCLA makes it a better victory.
Your clear and simple logic won’t work here.
up next Arizona who beat Southern Utah about as bad as we did, although it was a one score game into the 3rd quarter. I wonder if we’ll actually be the favorite next week.
Choukair has to make that FG, but there is much blame to go around. Typically, when a team outgains another by 200 yards, one would expect a double digit win. If that doesn’t happen, you check turnovers and special teams. Nevada wasn’t perfect, but a defensive TD is always big and don’t forget the punt return where the dude broke several arm tackles was juggling the football and still got them into nice scoring position.
kind of like the Colorado game last year where we had way more yards and it shouldn’t have come down to a FG kick in the first place. Choukair missed last year and he missed this year.
Damn, I forgot about that already. Choukair’s not dependable and he’s been given a lot of chances. We’re talking straight on from 33 yards. Wins are too precious for this program right now. Either find a kicker who has the mental aspects down or have a team mindset that anything over 30 yards we are play calling to score touchdowns.
I also think JS now has to go into the Arizona game knowing that he has an unreliable kicker. 3-7 through three games is enough sample size. I don’t think he had that understanding yesterday and I’m a little nervous that he’s talking about Choukair “knocking one through” in future games. The numbers tell us otherwise.
To be fair the fg @ Colo was 52 yards. Altitude or not, still a tough kick.
Haven’t seen the play again but a couple people said the defender that ran him over got his hand on the ball. That would explain the no call.
Refs called a great game other than that one phantom PI.
What pissed me off about that was that not ten minutes earlier, they called an uncatchable ball in Nevada’s favor. And it was the right call. But when the exact same play happens for us, only it’s more uncatchable than the precedent, we don’t get that wisdom.
Yep, that was the one awful call. Ball was 20 yards over the guy’s head and our DB barely touched him.
Here’s something to feel good about. After 3 games OSU leads the conference in total offense. I apologize about the formatting of my cut and paste from ESPN.
RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
1 Oregon State 1581 527 944 314.7 637 212.3 114 38.0
2 Oregon 1509 503 867 289.0 642 214.0 155 51.7
3 Washington State 1503 501 1263 421.0 240 80.0 131 43.7
4 Arizona 1483 494 936 312.0 547 182.3 103 34.3
5 Colorado 1482 494 869 289.7 613 204.3 123 41.0
6 Washington 1357 452 888 296.0 469 156.3 82 27.3
7 Arizona State 1304 435 958 319.3 346 115.3 86 28.7
8 Utah 1202 401 743 247.7 459 153.0 65 21.7
9 USC 1150 383 822 274.0 328 109.3 60 20.0
10 California 1147 382 602 200.7 545 181.7 90 30.0
11 Stanford 1075 358 729 243.0 346 115.3 78 26.0
12 UCLA 959 320 567
It’s an offense; progress from last year. Certainly helps a thin defense too. Got to convert that to points, and clean a few things up but what a change from last year…
Nice. Even if it hasn’t translated in a winning record (but for a missed FG), its a sign of coaching improvement, a balanced, cohesive offensive strategy (maybe even an identity?!?) and it should be attractive to recruits if OSU’s offense can continue to be productive.
Hodgins reminds me of Keenan Allen.
Very similar skill set.
I shared that thought on Twitter, and Hodgins himself liked it. https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1041406532598915072
Guess he agrees!
Did the Beavers beat the spread? it was like 3.6 or something right?
OT I have a theory,
So is the turnover chain saw a trophy for losing by 2 points?
Only winners should get a chain saw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJicpjitMM
I guess someone disagrees.
So what you are saying is losers get chain saws?
By the way I happen to like the third down chain saw, Heck, I think it should only be used for 4th downs.
The chainsaw is for turnovers, TB
Only, if they don’t bring back the above song. Then I’m ok with a turn over chainsaw.
I forgot how absolutely horrible that song is.
Yeah… smoke it like it’s crack… that’s family stuff, right there.
Another GA era failure
Did he do this at Utah State?
I can’t recall watching this many missed FGs in a weekend. It’s like the dearth of good NFL QBs is extending to specialists now.
Oh… except for the Rams’ P.
He’s 1/1 on the day in FGs.
Are those Hekker’s first points in his career?
Nope he’s also thrown for a td! Building that Hof resume today for my Rams.. he made basically the same kick Choke Clair shanked and he’s not even really a kicker lol.. such a beast.
You don’t score any points when you throw a TD. He would have had to run in, receive or recover a TD or a 2PAT to score any points.
“Choke Clair” sounds like something an Ohio State assistant would do.
And it didn’t go backwards
I’d need to see a replay, but I could have sworn Chokair’s kick was tipped by a defender at the end. I don’t get all the angst towards him for a kick the got blocked? Isn’t that on the line?
Could be on the line or could be too low a trajectory. I’d have to see it again, but it looked like it came out low.
Seems to me that almost all his kicks come out with a low trajectory…
I watched the replay in slo mo. Didn’t look like it was blocked, just shanked.
The defender laid out but was short of blocking it. Maybe choukair got the yips seeing him coming in?
The Vikings like his game. Perfect kicker for them. Moved way up their draft board with his two shanks yesterday.
Is it time to get a kicker from the women’s soccer team?
We have a women’s soccer team?
We do have one. But most men would rather spend four hours watching other men in hot pants run around a field for 10 seconds out of every two minutes and hit and hug each other.
The really exciting part is when the men in hot pants dance for our pleasure.
Sounds like we watch football for different reasons, Jack, but whatever floats your boat. Not judging!
Neither of us has said why we watch it. How are you going to know if the why is different by a description of what we watch?
Slightly OT……..I was listening to something called “ESPNU radio” in my car today and they were piling on Gebbia for leaving Nebraska. “He could be the starter now, what a stupid, hasty move” they pontificated breathlessly.
Fuck you, ESPN, maybe Frost should have made him the starter from the get go or maybe Gebbia didn’t gel with Frost. Maybe Gebbia will lead the resurgence of an upcoming P-12 program? Nebraska is nothing anymore, an also ran in the backwater division of the Big 10.
Those poor whiney bastards #TPWB
From the same guys who laughed and said he wasn’t good enough to play at Nebraska anyway so it was no loss. You get what you wish for corn holers.
Things in Arkansas are looking up…..
http://www.rockcitytimes.com/coach-chad-morris-arrested-for-impeding-traffic-following-razorback-game/
Cop that arrested him had the same name of The head coach of the team that just whupped them lol
Are you familiar with satire? Sorry for being a dick…. I’m covering Jack’s shift for him.
Yup, it’s a sports version of The Onion. Second most unreliable newspaper in Arkansas kind of gave it away.
I thought it was clear in the header.
While I think America has gone looney tunes and is full of and led by many more stupid people than I imagined, I figured everyone here could read actual text, if not subtext.
Do you assume to much?
I didn’t assume.
I reasoned that those here knew enough about college football to read that and know it was a satire about their head coach’s coachspeak coupled with Arky fan’s perception of his QB choices/biases… set against the backdrop of an acid trip.
I’m glad you reasoned it out, Jack.
Are you sure your reasoning is right? Some times reason can become assertions or at least that is what I learn in a philosophy class once or was it the Sunday Morning Comics.
You learned no such thing, obviously.
Should I ask for my money back then? The paper cost me a buck seventy-five.
You should.
You have several free dictionaries at your fingertips. Use them instead.
Good advice, I’ll keep that in mind.
OT – Brandin Cooks with 7 catches, 159 yds today….no TDs unfortunately.
And Hekker with a FG….
Hello yes what do you think about the offence line? Better this next year? I think they are not a big strong team because the lineman are bad and been years and the freshmans cannot play better. Delp and Lavaka and Houston make mistakes very much. I remember Jonathan Smith playing and they were much stronger players in that years.
You’re going to get no argument when saying Gibson was a better C than Houston.
And yes, Lavaka vacated his position a couple times on Saturday while chasing a defender instead of taking the end on a stunt.
But they were better off the ball in the first two games than they have been in over a decade. Saturday was them looking like they were a Riley team, waiting for the D to come to them.
Yup they were playing catch with the dline and LBs. If they would have pounded like the first 2 games the runs would have opened up later in the game.
They didnt seem to be getting gassed late in the game, I’m wondering if they gameplaned like that or if it was a failure of the oc to run right at them?
No Bradford or Pierce hurt, obviously. And that was seen with the two major drops. Those hurt, but to not keep going back to them to work through their first game jitters was the OC’s fault.
We let them punch time and again while they still had legs, and we didn’t return the favor. And then we had weird rotations on top of that.
The silver lining should be that we have enough talent to do that then piece together a comeback despite shooting ourselves in the foot every fifth play.
You just shouldn’t rely on the foot after all that.
If fatigue is a problem then you have a depth issues also.
I know everyone’s angry about the FG decision, but Blount looked shaky in the pocket all game, our OL gave up 5 sacks, and Blount was only 50% on the final drive including a screen to JJ. There was definitely risk attached to taking a shot at the end zone.
On the other hand Choukair came in with an 80%+ career success rate on kicks from that distance, and, by all reports, has been convincing in practices and scrimmages.
Based on the information at hand, JS made the right decision.
Blount was so clutch on that final drive, converting two very difficult 4th downs.
What you are saying is teams should play not to lose.
Time and time again that proves incorrect.
You don’t make decisions based on stats. You make them on what’s going on in the game, and Blount had ice in his veins, and Choker had looked shaky all game.
The “playing not to lose” argument is a straw man. What I’m saying is that teams should choose the decisions that have the best risk-reward profile.
A 33-yard FG with any college kicker has a 75-80% chance of being made. Choukair’s career stats to that point put him squarely in the average range. You can’t say relying on him was a bad decision because he missed one long FG earlier in the game.
QB’s get sacked around 10% of the time (which was also borne out in the game on Saturday, and through our first 3 games). Throw in the chances of an INT or fumble and the probabilities on both ends were probably close to equal.
Running the ball makes more sense than passing in that situation. Now that we’ve all gone through this mental exercise, I think that’s the route I’d have preferred to see JS take. Run it a few times, see what you can get, then try the FG if you have to.
At the time he had missed 3 of 6 FG attempts, now it’s 4 of 7. With his trajectory on kicks being so low, it was a bad call…
Blount put us in a position to win. He would be a hero today if the kicker does his job.
Who said anything about throwing the ball?
Give the ball to Jefferson and run it down their throats while they’re on their heels. There are over 30 seconds and two time-outs in our pocket.
Don’t let the supposedly shaky QB lose four yards in some awkward fetal flop. Keep pressing their D backward, putting the ball closer and to the middle.
Then kick your FG, if it’s necessary.
This is the non-FG option that makes sense to me.
I never said anything about throwing the ball.
The obvious, winning play was to hand the ball off twice and then nick the FG. People trying to justify JS’s decision are hamster wheeling because they don’t want to admit the new guy made a huge, game costing error. Though, even if Jefferson ran it 10 yards closer I’m not convinced Choker would have made the kick. He’s mentally screwed up right now.
This is my tweet seconds after the game.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1041156653888860161
Confirms what you’re saying and the obvious. It’s coaching 101. I think JS was scared of a fumble or some other disaster, and that’s playing not to lose.
Pete Carrol also didn’t play to “not lose the game” and that didn’t work out so well for the Seahawks. The run game was a struggle all game long. Probably would have been better to run another play or two, but it was a VERY reasonable decision to kick from 30 yards out to win the game and avoid a possible turnover which the beavers had plenty of, or a fumble which Jefferson has already done. It’s tough not to have a knee-jerk reaction after a heartbreaker.
Pete Carrol also didn’t play to “not lose the game” and that didn’t work out so well for the Seahawks.
As I said, “You don’t make decisions based on stats. You make them on what’s going on in the game.”
(1) Carrol should have run the ball. Less risk. Same as the Beavs should have done.
(2). He had a great kicker. The Beavs didn’t.
There were all kinds of other circumstances in each of those games. In the Seattle game I actually thought, “What is he doing?!” and in the Beavs game I thought the same. Read the comments. I question the decision before the kick. It was due to everything leading up to that point factored in. Not just one stat (like Choker made 75% of FGs leading up to that game). That’s a great measure of the past, but it means nothing if you take in all variables from Saturday.
If it were 4th down and you had to run Choker out there, you do it.
I agree with this. After being pushed to think through it more, I don’t think taking a knee and kicking the FG was the best decision, but I don’t think there was a huge margin separating each of the options from each other.
Thanks to all for good discussion.
The run game was a struggle because the play calling and rotations sucked. We ran when it was obvious, then we went back to being all pass-happy.
When Blount got it near the red zone, he should have organized the team for a hurry-up and handed it to JJ. It looked like it was setting up perfectly for a read option keeper to the short side if JJ didn’t find daylight first.
Way OT….
Today is the 15th anniversary of my giving up tobacco. A struggle at times but well worth it!
Good on you, cj.
Blount’s first half was one of the reasons the beavers were in the position they were in at the end of the game. And that last drive was rough, needing two 4th down conversions is not exactly convincing.
What does that even mean? Blount converted 2 huge 4th down throws and 60% of his passes for a higher yard per attempt (8.8 vs 8.1 for Luton). Luton had a better game, but just barely, and he’s always been decent in small spurts, then falls apart with the large sample size (interceptions will flow like wine). Blount is more steady. Luton should be a guy to bring in to jump start and hope for lightning in a bottle like this past week, but he should not be a starter. Starting him will expose him. Bringing him off the bench he can be a jump start/asset here and there.
People are going to fall for the same thing they fell for with Seth Collins et al. The guy with the bigger arm, hurdler, etc is great if he has one good performance. Then you have to sit through game after game of misery before returning to the obvious choice. I get why people are enamored with Luton, but just wish they wouldn’t fall for those same traits over and over.
Blount doesn’t know how to move in the pocket, makes some easy throws look hard and has gifted the D several points this year.
Just like when people defend Choukair for his career % instead of seeing the obvious during the here and now, you need to start evaluating Luton as a product of 9’s coaching abilities and system.
One of the QBs we’re talking about has less turnovers than games played with much less points off said turnovers… in the here and now.
That being said, neither of them will set the world on fire. But the team around the QB did play better as a whole when Luton was in. And there’s just no way Luton goes for a scramble of more than two yards… if he falls in the right direction. There’s a need for both this year. Let’s just hope they both remain healthy.
I’m open to being wrong on Luton if Smith figured something out that GA couldn’t, but until I see that over a period of time, I’m not buying him on a few good quarters. I saw a few throws that could have been intercepted, knuckle balls, flopping to the ground totally clueless, and some poor decisions. I also saw the good. But, I’m looking for a good QB more than a guy with all the tangibles, and I don’t see that in Luton despite his good game. I see a guy with tangibles who can sometimes out athlete a weak opponent. Blount is a more cerebral QB who seems to know how to run an offense better, even if he lacks the arm. What’s ironic is Luton’s deep ball sucks. If we go back to Blount’s throws to Bradford, Hernandez, etc he actually throws a better deep ball. Luton is best around 10 to 15 yards. Shorter or longer he gets wildly inaccurate. At least it seems that way, not sure if the stats back it.
Blount is like a 4 or 5 (out of 10) by Pac standards and Luton is a 3 or 4. So, we’re talking about two average to below average guys and arguing about it. That’s why I don’t care as much about this convo as McM last year. McM was an obvious 8 to me and GA was benching him, so I was more passionate about it.
MM can’t be an 8 because he can’t execute 80% of the plays necessary. If he maxes out, he can be a 7… basically a Dilfer on the Pac level. He was the fifth best QB in the MWC last year, and he’ll probably move up this year as a result of attrition and another year in-system.
As for Blount or Luton, neither of them will be our savior. And both are injury prone. So it would just be best to play them situationally. When one plays better against a certain D, he gets a little extra time. But we just have to get the ball to the playmakers. It turns out we have a bunch of them who are now figuring out how to get to open spaces.
I think the OC just thought we didn’t have a back-up RB. I would agree if Rogers was it. But Wallace looks more than capable as a runner. I think the game would have been different if Jefferson was used more in the first quarter and got spelled by Wallace in the second. Same touches for JJ with more production, and about 10-15 more carries for Wallace and Rogers with some good numbers there, but less plays overall.
I was willing to chalk everything up to learning curves and such at the beginning of the year. I’m at least happy that we’re not talking about a lower level of management at a deeper point in the season. This is all forgivable stuff if they keep progressing like they are.
Luton’s pick, btw was a process. The OC saw a weakness and exploited it two too many times. That play was set up for a screen to Jefferson, while we were all in their heads.
i thought the offensive line gave luton much better protection in the second half than blount in the first half…probably due to adjustments made at half time. I thought Luton finally showed some potential but when protection breaks down, he looks like another mannion statue-esque like. I like blounts mobility but he does have a tendency to hold the ball too long, and as the analyst pointed out, needs to learn how to step up in the pocket. I also think that blount has better touch on his passes possibly because he knows he doesn’t have a rocket. Luton still scares me when he’s in there, but looked solid for the most part at Nevada. I think both are serviceable but trust factor imo goes to blount. Sure wish we had a reliable kicker though. Beavs have actually been a pleasant surprise offensively and looked much better in the second half vs NV.
Much of that was Luton stepping forward in to the pocket vs Blount backpedaling then trying to turn and running straight into a defender.
I don’t think Choukair is particularly good in his career at now 15 for 26. Enough sample size to try someone else if there is anybody?
It’s roughly 62% and I’d be interested in knowing what some of the good kickers are doing %wise. Then you’d have to break down % by range 10-20 yards, 20-30, 30-40 and 40+ yards. I’ve git to think some of the better kickers hit maybe 70-75 % of their FGs but the distance factor comes into play. I would think that 62% is on the low end though. Hopefully he gets it figured out or they have another option moving forward.
Choukair’s career stats from all ranges are average for college kickers, except from 50+.
Last year, he kicked more 50+ yard FG’s than any kicker with no successful 50+ yard tries (0/4). I think what’s happening is that he’s a good practice kicker, which gives the coaches confidence in his ability to perform in games, then his actual performance doesn’t line up with what they see in a controlled environment.
He is perfect on PAT’s in his career, which is obvioulsy above average. So there’s something.
Blount got benched in the 2nd quarter and Luton brought us back. If Luton’s ankle is healthy he’ll start next week.
I would also had I felt Blount was much better than Luton the first two games. It takes a bit of humble pie but the offense was much better under Luton
here is the press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJJwdMOcTl4
He’s gotten a lot more comfortable with press conferences. Bodes well.
So he can explain away dumb coaching decisions without stammering?
Small victories.
Angry has said he’s upset with smith leaving TO’s on the board. Smith answers that question in the end of this presser. He states something to the effect of, ‘they knew they were going to kick the field goal to win once they got to the 20 yard line. They had all 3 TO’s and wanted to save the 3rd TO in case of an offensive penalty with a 10 second run off. It was to protect themselves from the runoff that they kept the final TO.’ He also stated that it was a good no call on the field goal in regards to a penalty for running into or roughing. I’m pretty sure he’s saying that to tell his guys; no excuses, play better and you can’t rely on refs to help you win games.
That explains leaving one timeout on the board but not two. Run it one more time with Jefferson and maybe he scores (Nevada D was winded) or gets closer/easier kick. Agree with him on the no call. Had no issue with the refs that game, even though this apparently means I hate the Beavs per YoungOSU
I still don’t understand why they didnt spike the ball on 1st down to kill the clock with nearly a full minute remaining?
Kill the clock, regroup and run a play or 2, then settle for the field goal on 4th down.
Maybe they didnt want to risk scoring too quickly and leaving 30 seconds on the clock? Instead, they ran off a bunch of time before calling the timeout. Just seemed like a wasted opportunity.
Easy for me to say without having to play the scenario out in real time, but Smith did say they have these strategies worked out ahead of time.
Either way, I dont know that losing this game makes a huge difference to our season. If anything, the close loss will hopefully cause the emtire team to focus and work on all of the cumulative little things that caused us to be down 2 in the final minute so we dont have to eek out wins. Really doubt there was any chance we would bowl. Not it’s almost assured.
I can explain the thinking at the end.
During the off-season the coaches come up with a plan for what they want to do in late half/game situations. They cover all scenarios, home/away, time left, yardage, time outs left, wind, any factor I didn’t list. This is so they don’t have to make decisions on the fly. They consult their playbook and go with that.
Probably 90% of the time, this was the right call. That’s a near gimme for fg kickers today. Should have made it. Coaches put the players in a position to win and they didn’t execute.
If the bell wasn’t tipped it was a penalty, period. Don’t care what Smith says or you say, that has to be called.
I guess Smith wants OSU to lose.
No, Smith is the coach and coaches rarely publicly call out officials (nor should they). I am willing to bet he reported the play to whatever conference the officials came from to get clarification on why it wasn’t called.
Watch the play. The defender slides through the kicker just as he places his foot back on the ground. The rule requires “reasonable time to regain his balance” and he was not given that. As soon as his kicking foot hits the ground (or slightly before, its difficult to tell) he is taken out. That is running into the kicker.
Go to about 1:09 in the video and tell me he had “regained his balance” prior to being hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc2PGLHPX8A
Or don’t, honestly I don’t care. Its should have been called but its over so it really doesn’t matter.
Also from Eggers:
• Unless I’m missing something, the Beavers got hosed on Choukair’s last try when Nevada’s Berdale Robins, trying to block the kick, slid into the kicker and took his legs out from under him after the attempt. I’ve spoken with several members of the OSU coaching staff and media, and all said they thought it should have been either roughing the kicker or running into the kicker. Either penalty would have given Choukair another shot at a game-winner.
Key line:
‘I’ve spoken with several members of the OSU coaching staff and media, and all said they thought it should have been either roughing the kicker or running into the kicker.’
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/406408-304775-beavers-did-a-lot-right-until-kick-went-left
So there is that.
Regardless of the reasoning, the team put the game on a kicker’s foot and sometimes you have to take the lose for it. Either, way you have to move on at this point.
That’s not reasoning. It’s just citing a rule. And he’s not wrong.
But moving on after disappointment should be an easy thing for OSU fans to do by now. The timing is right for it to just be a learning experience and something of a spur in the team’s side going forward.
Someone above said the kick looked like it bounced off someone. And it was pretty obvious after his first PAT that his trajectory was way low. I don’t know how that ball got through the thicket of arms on that kick.
I saw one angle from behind which looked like the kick was low and to the right, but it takes a left turn somewhere around the RG’s shoulders. So I think we might have a back and to the left situation.
No one is saying you don’t move on but officials shouldn’t be excused from missing obvious calls.
They call a penalty on that kick if it was in the 2nd quarter of the game. It needs to be called on the last play too.
As I’ve said before, if the coach has the mindset that his kicker is reliable then it’s probably the decision one is going to see 90% of the time. Going forward, JS has to have the thought that Choukair is NOT reliable. I think career-wise, he is now 15/26, not good and it’s enough data to come up with a different strategy (new kicker or playing calling for touchdowns).
You could tell he knew he had issues before misses started exacerbating the situation, because his stance behind the holder kept changing. His placement on the last kick was noticeably different. Coaches will notice this and correct it. And he should return to being a reliable PK from within 40 yards.
This is sort of what is meant by playing not to lose.
Going by this rationale, we should keep all our TOs. What if we used our final TO to re-kick after whatever penalty our coach imagines we will commit… and then we have another penalty during the re-kick? We need to keep all our TOs for just this contingency!
Or we can trust the players to do their jobs
I’ll chalk it up to overthinking it for now.
Yep, his nerd brain got to him.
The bad: we aren’t good enough yet to beat a mountain west team. The good: you can see we are building and going in the right direction.
We need to bring in a real QB and some good DL’s. I felt we were more poised in our 1st two games… a lot of mistakes in this one. Shame as winning this one could have been good psychologically… if not for the team at least for me.
The scary thing about college football is you can bring in needed pieces only to have needed pieces graduate at the same time. My fear for next year is we get a good QB but our OL won’t be as good because key players have moved on.
Roster management is always the trick for a new coaching staff.
I saw a team better than and good enough to beat a MW team by at least two touchdowns — but unfortunately they beat themselves too. I’m excited that the defense can actually show up and play. Beavs played well enough on both sides of the ball to win, but had turnovers for scores, and mental lapses throughout the game. Fortunately, Smith and Co. should be able to help fix the mental mistakes (dumb penalties), and teach techniques to hold-on to the ball better.
Go Beavs!!
Comforting with 6 RBIs!
http://www.espn.com/mlb/game?gameId=380917122
Conforto with 6 RBIs!
http://www.espn.com/mlb/game?gameId=380917122
Conforto got 12 RBIs? Unbelievable!
That is very comforting….
or Conforting?
Both
UCLA QB’s father critical of Kelly’s coaching, play calling…not sure that’s the right place for Jelly. Like Jack said, Prima Donnas…
FSU fans calling for Taggert to be fired…
Nebraska fans have poopy diapers also.
Golly, I used to coach Big Red but I wouldn’t say I’m a “fan”!
LOL, his twitter moniker is DoriansDAD.
New podcast: https://soundcloud.com/dam-podcast/dam-podcast-sep-17
Decent stuff. Noah could be back. Smalls looked good. Could be a nice 1, 2.
Morris out Reichner out a few more weeks.
AP out 4 more weeks.
Bradford back this week.
A lot of insight into the old regime. Completely incompetent when it comes to basic things like watching file. GA was a snake oil salesman and I have to admit I bought it.
I took it that AP was out a total of 4 weeks (meaning 3 more) as per the original prognosis.
I thought it interesting how few of the starters had other P5 offers other than OSU. None on the OL.
Offer sheet is one of the first things I look at. More important than stars.
“Win one for the Kipper.”
unrelated note, but I saw Brandon Kipper somehow was awarded eligibility for this year by the NCAA. I suspect he’ll play in 4 games and take a redshirt.
I have no idea who that dude is, but he sounds awesome in this interview.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/high-school/prep-football/article197779919.html
He wants to be a “college monster” and get drafted in the 1st round. Lol
I watched Michalczik bring Kipper’s name up impromptu in an interview in August, said he’s gonna be good.
Next year with Levengood, Kipper, Lavaka, and Brandel, all we need is a center and we’ll be solid.
Any defensive line guys hanging around?
Sounds like oregon is going to have the Rock on campus for college gameday and their game vs Stanford this weekend. Big weekend for hosting recruits. What a luxury to have 8 home games on your schedule so you can host recruits nearly every freaking week of the season. Then to also have celebrity endorsements who have nothing to do with your school(cough…cough…Miami anybody?) coming into to town to help lure recruits.
I hope they get their asses handed to them by Stanford.
And I’m sure Uncle Phil will ensure that Corso puts on the stupid duck head then rides off on the stupid motorcycle. It’s all just stupid.
One comment on the podcast from Mamma Machado was that Blount wasn’t using his athleticism as a QB, which is what separates him from the less-mobile Luton.
This made me wonder about why does OSU use the read option if the QB’s never keep the ball? Especially with Luton in, the defense knows he will NEVER keep the ball and that the RB will get it. The point of it is to freeze the defense and have misdirection. But it is never utilized properly.
The last time I saw a QB keeping effectively was McM when OSU won the Civil War. Perhaps they want to protect the QB since we’re so thin on that front?
It’s frustrating watching defense tee off on our RBs. We might as well go under center with play action.
Darrell Garretson ran a lot, he made an awesome play to beat Cal in OT. Blount is similar to Garretson.
Ahhh yes, the glory years!
Blount is similar to Garretson.
Not really. He throws much better…Blount actually throws a better deep ball than Luton.
I was down on Luton’s deep throws too but he made some good ones in Reno. If he continues to play like that he can have a Sean Canfield type of year.
What was his longest throw (in the air, not RAC)?
He’s pretty good in that 10-15 yard range and accuracy dips exponentially after that. Blount has made severally really nice deep throws in the 3 games, and he even had a few good deep balls in limited action two years ago. I’ve seen enough to say Blount throws a better deep ball. Luton can throw it farther but can’t hit a barn.
best throw was the back shoulder throw to Kolby Taylor at the 2 on the sideline, when we were down 30-7 with about 6 mins left in the 2nd qtr – 26 yd gain. Also that was a beauty to Hodgins for the TD in the corner of the endzone just before the half.
I don’t know how far those were in the air off the top of my head, but where they both over 20 yards in the air?
the Kolby Taylor catch had to be over 20 yds since it was a 26 yd play to the sideline with no run after the catch. Jermar ran it in on the next play.
Gotcha. Hey, I hope Smith has improved him.
I need to see it week in, week out before I buy in. And I need to see it in Pac play. Luton completed a deep ball vs CSU last year, too, then got destroyed in conference play.
Personally, this seems like the same plague that Seth Collins brought, where because he looked the part and was uber athletic people clung to every glimmer of that potential to the bitter end. Finally they all ate crow and admitted he was a disaster. Luton will flash brilliance because he is “toolsy”…the bigger question is whether he’s actually a good QB. I think no, and he will be exposed.
We do have great WRs, which will make either guy look better than they are.
Literally got destroyed in conference play. He had his vertebrae shattered in his first conference game and never came back.
Haha. Yep.
People are talking about a guy who has 6 career TDs and 9 career Interceptions as the answer because of one good game.
Maybe? But again, need to see it week after week. Are these guys such great coaches they can turn the tall bozo into a player? TBD.
Apparently Arizona’s defense is a mess too, no pass rush and secondary getting torched. So he could very well look great this weekend and still not really have arrived.
Also reports are that Tate has a bum ankle so he hasn’t been running much. Here’s hoping that lingers through the weekend.
Luton only played in one conference game last year, vs Wazzu and he was 22-35 0TDs 0picks. GA was enamored with Collins since he beat Weber State in his first game throwing TDs and jumping dudes while McMaryion threw a pick 6. From the tearful woe is me blog MMc wrote in Fresno it sounds like he was a bit of a sourpuss about the whole situation and got himself in the doghouse. Not that GA was any kind of motivator but I feel that MMM could have played his cards differently and would have been the man ever since about week 7 of that season especially after Collins went schizo and only started 7 games at QB in his career. Instead MMM got his dobber down and got sent to the end of the bench and we got graced by the wonder of Nick Mitchell. That’s life in the fast lane.
I heard the opposite. McM was a model teammate despite GA putting his cock in his mouth.
one thing I know about football is you better kiss the coach’s ass or you’ll be on the bench. If your teammates think you’re great, that doesn’t mean dick. I’m sure MMM thought he was looking at being a 4 year backup after Collins got the job but if he just woulda ass-kissed for a few more weeks he’d have been the guy because I don’t think there’s anybody on this planet who thought that Nick Mitchell was better than MMM, GA included.
luton looked good but it was for one half so gotta agree with angry. While Luton has the better arm, I think blount has better touch on his throws especially in the 25-30 yard range. Big negative is luton needs Max protection to be effective while blount has some abilities to improvise. Big negative for blount is he sometimes holds the ball too long. Overall, I think blount is more poised in the pocket, makes better reads notwithstanding the pick into double coverage and appears to show more leadership intangibles than Luton. I think it’s good that either guy can come in when needed and has the potential to make plays but so far blount has been more consistent.
I think you’re misinterpreting what was happening. They both basically had the same pocket. Luton got more time to throw because he knows how to step up in the pocket and buy himself some more time.
As far as who makes better reads I’d have to watch a replay to see what was available vs where they each went.
Luton steps up into the pocket/void of the defense, Blount doesn’t. Luton now throws where only his guys can catch it except the 1 errant interception. Blount doesn’t know how to move within the pocket very well, but Luton does. Luton concedes on sacks, Blount tries not to get sacked. Luton doesn’t appear to have the same mental strength of coming back after being benched Blount appears to have, but I could be wrong.
They have different skill sets, but are capable of running the offense. I agree with not running option read plays with Luton, but move more to run pass option when Luton is in the game. Let him have his eyes down field and let him see the WR’s get open. if they’re open, then he keeps it and passes the ball; if they’re covered, hand the ball off. That will tie into the play action. It’s a different blocking scheme for the OL, so I see why they don’t want to really implement the run pass option when Luton is in the game. Though it would make teams really have to prepare for two different QB style of play. makes the team more dynamic.
Anybody here follow MBB recruiting/scholarships?
With the official addition of Dastrup, arent we at out limit for scholarships?
Wondering if they will find a way to open up a spot if either of Orlando Robinson or Kenyon Martin Jr want to come here, by converting Tres to a walkon and then let his dad pay his way using the faculty discount? Or maybe I’m not counting correctly? Wouldn’t STJ be done after this season and open up a spot?
I really dont pay much attention to hoops scholarships
I believe we are at 12 but not sure
14, can go to 16
I count 12 as well with 2 seniors, STJ and Big G. So we’re at the max next year with 3 incoming. They could use the faculty discount on Tinkle or Thompson. Could also see Reichle transferring if he doesn’t see the floor more this year.
Thanks for the info. So this storyline might be something to keep an eye on, as we have Orlando Robinson coming in for an official visit this weekend.
http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/oregon-state
minus Kone
Wonder if Tinkle will be eyeing the draft, if he has a good year?
Looking back on my rankings to see where I had these WRs.
http://angrybeavs.com/rankings/12059
Had Bradford as a 4-star. That’s starting to pan out. He was really under the radar.
Also had Pierce as a 5-star. He’s getting close to that level.
http://angrybeavs.com/rankings/12721
Had both Hodgins and Taylor as 4-stars
My comments on Luton were interesting:
Jake Luton — We know the story on this guy. Gun slinger who has a low completion % (though it did increase throughout the year), etc. I’m game to see what he can do. Has a great attitude and has ability. Just has to harness it. Coach him up, and he could be a good one.
If he finally has the coaching, he can be good (at least in that Canfield type of way).
People thought Mannion was a great QB. He wasn’t. Cooks was a great WR who made Mannion look great. We see that in the NFL where one is a pro-bowl player and the other still holding a clip board.
Agree on Mannion. It was the wrong decision to start him over Katz his freshman year. Katz wasn’t great, but we was better than the Frosh. It was not a popular comment when I made it on AB, but I stand by it to this day. We would have won more games with RK at the helm that year.
Whether it was right or wrong wasn’t even the issue.
It was the way it was done. That was just ridiculous.
Agreed, but apparently Riley didn’t like Katz going off script and calling his own plays at the LOS. I do remember Mannion taking over in the second half vs. Sac State and nearly brought us back but that was Sac State and I witnessed it in all its glory in person.
Watched Whiplash tonight. This scene reminded me of everything wrong with Riley (around the 1 minute mark onward).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vTI5g198E
Freaking love Whiplash. Did you enjoy it?
One of those movies that sounds so great with headphones on. Now I want to see it again
I liked the idea, but as a musician I didn’t care for some aspects. Overall I just found it okay. People seem to love it (Got 8.5 on IMDB).
My wife won’t watch it. The verbal abuse makes her cringe
Haha. Yeah. It’s cringe-worthy at times because of that. This article explains my thoughts on it pretty well. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/whiplash-getting-jazz-right-movies
I don’t feel like they got much about actual music correct. It lead to me not caring about the characters. Someone on Rotten Tomatoes said, “This is just a sports movie with a brass section.”
Lol. Sums it up. If you’re not a musician it might be a different experience, though.
I thought the music nerds were dicks, and I would have slow clapped for the first time in my life if some jocks would have just stuffed them in some lockers every 15 minutes or so.
There were a lot of problems with the story itself, but really wishing the two leads would just find a way to drive over each other was hard to get past.
I imagine others in the theater felt the same or similarly, since I was hearing them chuckle and say “whatever” at many of the same times I did. One person in the audience behind me even giggled while saying under his breath, “You want the rhythm? You can’t handle the rhythm.”
I stuck around for the end hoping one would be shot by the other, resulting in life for the other. I also wanted a peek at the sheet music for this jazz stuff. I’ve never seen sheet music at a jazz performance before.
Other than that, the soundtrack was awesome. The cinematography was very good, and Simmons played his caricature brilliantly.
I should clarify… the way the soundtrack was woven into the movie was awesome. I wouldn’t buy any of the music itself.
Agree with all that, Jack.
Still made it through the movie and would probably rank it around a 5 or 6 for some of the acting and the effort at tackling competitive music. Maybe it’s me, but the main drummer seemed ahead of the beat all the time and lacked feel, even when he was supposed to be playing his virtuoso/Buddy Rich type pieces A great jazz drummer should be behind the beat ever so slightly. Subjective, but to my ear the greats are usually behind to give the smooth/lax feel of jazz.
Uh oh, now I’m afraid to hear your critique of Hell or HighWater, Jack. Another movie I really enjoyed in the past few years. I guess I need to see more movies
Angrybeavs.com — a critical view of NiceBeaver’s movies.
Not sure if that’d be better or worse than “nice beaver” movies.
I haven’t seen H or HW. It just looks like a good ol boy shoot-em-up/chase with whatever twist.
I like those. The wife doesn’t like them… except for Outlander. She strangely loves that movie.
The problem with trying to play like Buddy Rich is that’s like wanting to be like Mozart. If you want to play like Buddy Rich, I recommend you always carry two sticks and have an innate sense of timing at the age of 20 months.
No biggie.
What people don’t realize about Rich was that he was always practicing. Playing was practice, and practice was playing. And it was all in his head. You can learn from him. But you can’t be him. You have to be yourself.
What I liked about the music in this movie was that it was mediocre at best. It wasn’t trying to overlay Roach or Haynes. It was mediocrity not trying to be pretentious. It was just there for everyone to see and hear.
What was wrong with the movie was a lot of stuff. But mostly it was trying to convince the viewer that what they were seeing and hearing was not mediocrity. Instead of the music, the story was pretentious as hell.
https://www.kcet.org/shows/artbound/drummer-peter-erskine-on-jazz-flick-whiplash
innate sense of timing at the age of 20 months.
Ever see the Ginger Baker documentary? He had “perfect time”, which is something I never heard of until then, but apparently it’s just like perfect pitch but for time, and even more rare. Many times when I am bored with a metronome, I’ll put on Cream and practice to a Ginger Baker track. What’s funny is you put it through a PC analyzer (analyzes tempo and if a click track was used) for time it says that it was recorded to a click track.
I wore out Toad growing up.
I also recommend Butterfield Blues’ East-West. I also wore that album out.
Luton still in ankle boot. Hasn’t practiced this week. Looks more and more like Blount be our guy Saturday.
I’m good with that as I think he has more upside than Luton anyway. Luton needs max protection to really be effective whereas Blount has some limited abilities to improvise. So far, Blount’s skills have shown better and more consistently than Luton’s. Luton looked great for 1/2 of the Nevada game but beyond that, including last year, not so much. Sure, last season a completely different situation but you still can’t ignore it and he couldn’t get anything going against FCS Southern Utah. Hopefully, we can keep him healthy because I don’t know who the #3 guy is.
Das Boot
I know you missed with this, but I was thinking it as I hit submit.
It has to be one of the best psychological thrillers of all time.
The director’s cut is even better.
Anyone have a source for Red Alder scrap wood? I need some for a guitar I’m building. Can’t seem to find any online, so I thought I’d put a Beaver on it.
They’ll chew it.
Haha.
Come on, Beavs. There’s Red Alder all around you guys.
Just sent you a message to the ab @ angrybeavs email
Creation Woods in Rainier has a bunch of woods and a fun boneyard. Cook in KFalls also deals in alder. Northwest Timber in Jefferson might also have some.
I only need some scrap or a couple small boards to test dye and finish on. Do you know if any of those places ship?
If that’s all you need, then just contact everyone and anyone about getting a sample sent to you. Half the mills will send you samples for free. If there’s any cost, it’ll fit in a box and ship for 6 or so bucks. If that’s the case, ask for more than one sample wood to fit in the box.
I can’t tell you the availability of Oregon v. box alder where you are, but flooring places should have samples too.
Jeff at Creation keeps absolutely every chunk of wood. He has any native wood you can think of… not always in the right dimensions.
Thanks! Contacted all 3 for samples. We’ll see what they say.
Hey Jack, thanks, one of those guys panned out. $20 to have the sample shipped. Putting a Beaver on it truly does work!
Do you mill your own tonewoods?
Not yet, but I’m working toward that. Been getting rough cut bodies and finish sanding those, doing fretwork, electronics mods, and now working on stains, etc. When I get space soon for bigger saws I plan to do that. It’s just a hobby. I love everything about instruments, so it’s natural to progress to trying to build one.
I don’t know these people, but I would suggest talking to them (or people like them) about where to find good salvage woods in your area. They seem to go out of their way to find some.
https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/mad/d/live-edge-giant-old-growth/6694972027.html
If you have space, you could probably pick up a slab or two for future projects. :)
Warning: Don’t conflate reclaimed wood with salvage lumber. You’ll kick yourself for making a lengthy drive to discover what you thought would be workable wood was just overpriced shabby chic wood.
Anybody interested in another 4* transfer?
Oregon State coaches appear to be trying to recruit recent USC transfer, Ykili Ross. 4* safety from class of 2015, with a great offer sheet. He just left USC officially today. Might have been having issues with some of the coaching staff or other players, but details aren’t totally clear.
Looks like he has used his redshirt year plus his fresh/soph seasons. He said he intends to grad transfer, but I’ve read conflicting reports whether he has officially graduated yet. Might not be available until after the current football season, so would be a 1 year insurance plan type of guy possibly, if we land him.
https://247sports.com/Player/Ykili-Ross-45511/high-school-76176/
Sign me up.
Why doesn’t he have 2 years, though?
One site I read said he was supposed to be eligible to graduate at the end of fall semester, and would then be able to grad transfer. But then the timing doesn’t make sense that he would transfer out today, part way through fall semester. So it’s unclear if he can transfer without sitting a year, or if he has to forego this season and then be ready for his senior year.
Maybe the environment at USC was so toxic he just wanted to get out of dodge? Or maybe the report I read was inaccurate and he’s already graduated and ready to go?
It’s all fairly new that we are even looking at him, so hopefully more information will become available soon.
Fall term starts today. So I see no reason for him to not be able to enroll and be eligible this year if he’s already graduated. It’s a weird situation, but I believe the rules read that way.
I think the rules about total ships and roster sizes keep a lot of teams/players from making these moves. He’d have to walk on and pay his own way for fall term, getting a grant-in-aid after the new year. And then you’d have to worry that other schools return the favor.
I can’t imagine Helton would release the kid to a Pac school, at least for this season. If he’s going anywhere he wants, I’m thinking he already has his degree.
That’s the unclear part. Haven’t read anywhere that he has already graduated, although his intentions all along were to “grad transfer”. If he has graduated, then he should be good to go and have a little grace period up until the late add/drop deadline for fall term. Worth keeping an eye on at least, because there aren’t many other west coast schools with the same school calendar as us. Oregon would be a candidate and I think UW starts next week, so they’d be an option too. But you have to think they already have better depth than us at that position at both schools. With Morris out indefinitely, OSU would make sense from a playing time standpoint.
If he’s not enrolled on or before the first day of the term, he’s not eligible for current intermural seasons.
In that case, I like UWs chances
Yeah sounds like UW if all that is true.
Any update on the guy from Oklahoma? I haven’t heard Smith officially announce he has joined the program as he did with the other two from Nebraska. Seems like a slow week for recruiting, no transfers yet haha.
I think someone posted that his name is in the student directory.
I saw that posted too. I am confused if he is transferring, why Smith hasn’t acknowledged it. Maybe he is waiting to announce it when he announces the dude from USC coming here too, fingers crossed.
what “dude” is coming to OSU from USC? I haven’t heard or read anything about the USC guy like I did Avery or Gibbia….got any links to share? Thanks
Never mind…I just saw the information above….
He’s be worth adding even if it’s just for 2019, this team needs upper class talent.
If only this would happen to the ducks mascot.
http://dailysnark.com/colorado-mascot-shoots-himself-in-the-balls-after-accidentally-facing-t-shirt-cannon-wrong-way/amp/
No balls on a duck…….
The S&P+ projection calls for another close game, Arizona 33, Beavs 32
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/9/20/17878870/college-football-picks-week-4-2018-predictions-odds-spreads
Eggers predicting OSU won’t be able to contain QB Tate enough and will lose another close one.
That wouldn’t surprise me.
watched the first half of Arizona vs Southern Utah — the Ariz defense has issues.
Yeah that’s what I’ve read, they’re D has some serious issues.
Their. Fuck. Fucking autocorrect.
Outside of an injury to Tate, it’s not looking like a win this weekend.
45 points should keep them in the game but might not be enough to win. If they win, it’ll be in a wild finish. If they lose it’ll be az pulling away in the 2nd half. Keeping it close at half will keep the students around and could make a difference at the end of the game.
An osu offense will a guy like Khalil Tate is basically at least a 500 season.
Tate will probably start running this weekend. Luck o’ the Beavs.
If only we had someone who might be knowledgeable of Arizona’s offensive personnel’s tendencies and strengths… and their run game..
If only….
Oh well.
Not really newsworthy or anything concrete, but it looks like we haven’t stopped pursuing Ykili Ross, seeing that Michael Doctor is another one of our coaches who recently followed him on the tweeter.
Nick Rolivic and Hawaii also appear to be working on him.
I didn’t realize Michael Doctor’s a coach.
I guess my post was newsworthy then. He’s some type of recruiting assistant
He was going to go to med school, but Doctor Doctor was deemed too confusing.
He probably shouldn’t read any Joseph Heller.
I’m sure that guy was great, but it sounds like he’s got some baggage anyway. We need to get Landry Payne’s eligibility figured out. We’re a quarter through the season and the NCAA is still fucking around with that.
Got confirmation that Orlando Robinson will be visiting campus this weekend as a MBB visitor. Also, no Kenyon Martin Jr or other visitors. So it seems like Robinson is the guy they’re keying on as the final addition to this class.
I like the Browns jerseys tonight. Being that they look black on my TV it wouldn’t be a bad look for Oregon State.
Agreed.
Solid wide orange stripe on pants and shoulders instead of double stripe… black lid with single orange stripe… I’m good.
Oh… orange socks and black cleats.
It kinda pisses me off that Nike is so lazy that they just made the Browns wear the negative exposure to our orange unis. They actually have a consistent history of the white stripey on the helmet.
I’ve long argued that since Castor Canadensis has a dark brown coat, the main OSU color should be dark brown. They have white eyes and orange teeth, so everything would be in sync. This change would be especially appropriate now because everyone wears black at least occasionally and its differential factor has been lost. That said, there’s nothing to keep OSU from wearing black from time to time either.
I really don’t like black uniforms. It’s probably my least favorite color. Looks dated…like a team that was trying to be edgy in the 80s or something.
I like the Black Jersey best, but the monochromatic black over black over black isn’t great. In fact any monochromatic look, other than “stormtrooper” (all white), bugs me.
I loathe the all orange look!
This is our best look:
https://image.oregonlive.com/home/olive-media/width620/img/beavers_impact/photo/artavis-pierce-meagherjpg-ab268de0f7f5d483.jpg
They just look so sharp in the white helmet, black jersey, white pants.
Holy yuck!
Nothing good comes from white knickers.
Black pants standard… orange allowed when no orange tops are worn… agree with the monochromatic blech. But the white pants absolutely suck.
I shouldn’t say that.
The Chicago Bears unis, blue on white, are sharp.
But I would stick to Steelers uni patterns, replacing orange for the pee color.
These are valid points.
It would also bring all the brown logos into compliance with school spirit. We wouldn’t have to remove any existing school colors. Just add brown to the official spirit marks.
It’s funny how much a year can change things… Last year people were on each other’s throats over the season we had… Good to see it even out… That being said things could change… As I see it now, your only as good as your staff… You can make all the JS to Riley comparsons you want but Riley’s biggest downfall was sticking with coaches that weren’t getting it done… We’ll see how JS handles this, I am hoping he will jettison the folks not up to par… He has a good staff from what I have seen, we’ll see how things play out in the next few years but liking what I see so far
I don’t know, OSUYoungn was calling a lot of people haters here after Saturday’s loss. I think this is the calm before the next storm.
Meh…
He was just upset about the non-call and couldn’t let it go.
Now that you bring up non calls how was the ball to Timmy H. determined uncatchable but on the next Nevada series OSU was flagged for PI on an equally overthrown ball? That was the bigger officiating error to me than the non call on running into the kicker.
We went over that and let it go also.
A game changer none the less.
I thought the beavs would win that game by two scores; if they played to their potential they would have…mute point. If they clean it up they’ll win Saturday.
That’s the sense I get. Expectations were shot midway through the second quarter. We were just making too many mistakes to call this a good game even if we won. They’re better every week, and it looks like we’re getting both wind and understanding the playbook.
But we can probably pick out about ten plays that could have changed the outcome.
concur. Riley’s biggest fault was sticking with assistants who didn’t warrant that loyalty. Or put another way, Riley was more loyal to his friends than his employer. It was revelation to him in Nebraska that his employer there didn’t see it that way.
Seems like Bobby D asked the same thing of Riley (to make staff changes) at the end of his tenure and The Bikester was offended and somehow found the job at Nebraska. Bobby was trying to make Riley see the light back then.
Partially finished visitor list for this weekend. More to add tomorrow. 4 official visitors(OV) currently.
Men’s Basketball:
Orlando Robinson-OV
Football
2019: Evan Bennett-OV; William Nimmo-OV, Zach Larrier-OV, Michael Erhart, Jeffrey Nelson, Cory Stover, Luke Musgrave, Kelsen Hennessy, Omar Speights, Christopher Abbes
2020: Cooper Justice, Sandrey Mitberg, Ayden Hector, Jalen McMillen
Any of the football OVs offensive linemen? Is there a center amongst them?
Or a kicker.
Positions?
2016 3-star TE/LB Riley Sharp returns from his LDS mission and actually sticks with his commitment! He’s officially on the roster now.
He was a pretty good-looking prospect back in the day. Hopefully he makes good on that!
Anyone going to the game?
I’ll be there.
I’m going to the Oregon game. I’ll be the one with the Beavers hat on, cheering for Stanford.
Too funny. You might get some beer spilled on you, or soda…or is it at Stanford? Either way… Trees don’t like beavers.
It’s at Autzen. My best friend has good tickets and his daughter just had a baby so he has an open seat.
Yeah… I have friends from the Bay Area visiting. And I need to take them to tailgate at Autzen tomorrow.
You’re better than that. The Jack I know wouldn’t go to Autzen.
I’ll go to Autzen. I’ll also wear Beavs gear while there.
I’ll also use dumb tailgates and stupid football to make money.
Which pretty much proves you’ve never read Jack.
Several fall weekends are set up without OSU football in mind. They decided to re-rehire Riley. I decided to live an ethically proper existence despite that decision.
We will be there. Taking the baby for her first game. Going to check out the new family section.
you’ll have to tell us how it goes. I don’t sit in the family area now so I’d like to know if it is worth moving too in the stadium.
I’m going hope it does not rain too much
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156333168338127&id=25495618126&anchor_composer=false
I think I found Jack?
I’m not going to go to FB, but I’m guessing you’re being stereotypically deep.