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Ranking the 2012 Recruiting Class

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My “star” system works like this:

  • I’m using + instead of stars this year because it’s easier than uploading the image.
  • Recruits are listed in order, so if two guys have three + marks, the one higher on my list is the better prospect.
  • I give +’s on my belief the player will be all-conference before graduation. Five +’s means definite all-conference player, four +’s means 80% chance of being all conference, 3-stars = 60% chance, etc. The % would decrease as you go down the list. E.g. The top 3-star has a 60% chance, the next guy a bit less, etc. For example, I think Weinreich has a 60% chance to be all-conference, Josh Mitchell less, at 55%, Gilmore less at 50%, etc.
  • This is just one man’s opinion. I think over time these rankings will be more accurate than Rivals or Scout, but we’ll see.

 

Isaac Seumalo +++++

Gavin Andrews +++++

Caleb Smith ++++

Grant Bays ++++

Chris Brown ++++

Garrett Weinreich +++

Josh Mitchell +++

Malik Gilmore +++

Chase Eldredge +++

Dustin Stanton +++

Brent VanderVeen +++

Kendell Hill +++

Tyler Hasty +++

Stanley Hasiak +++

Zack Robinson +++

Chris Miller +++

Garrett Owens +++

Joel Skotte ++

Cyril Noland ++

Dyllon Mafi ++

Caleb Saulo ++

Rommel Mageo +

Cade Cowdin +

Noke Tago +

Post LOI Thoughts

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Nothing ground breaking here. As anyone can see, a very good offensive class, and a very poor defensive class. The best DT signed is Josh Mitchell, an offensive tackle. That's pretty bad. Mafi looks like the best LB in this group, and he was picked up off the scrap heap today. No Pac-12 caliber DEs signed today. Hasty looks to be an okay CB prospect. I actually like Kendall Hill at safety. Chris Miller? Who knows–can't find any reliable film. Noland? Nice/smart guy and all, but a borderline talent.

Just a really bad defensive effort, and this after a dreadful season, defensively.

There are a lot of delusional fans out there. For example:

Thank You Coaches!
I really appreciate their efforts this year. I can't remember getting so many recruits that also received multiple offers from other top programs. While we lost a few battles, we won many others.

Thank you coaches for your effort? Really? Like the effort in putting a fence around their only solid defensive players? Or the effort in hiring a coach within a 28 day window? Or the effort in game planning last year? Yeah, great effort guys. Bravo!

And this gem:

Rather than lament who ain't with us, I say WELCOME NEW BEAVERS!    
I'm a dad of an athlete…these are always tough decisions.

Your parents clearly raised you right…you chose US!

Welcome to you and may your career and education at Oregon State exceed your wildest expectations.

That's just insane. Whatever helps you wake up in the morning, buddy.

I'm trying to be positive about the class. When I do that, I think, "Okay, great offensive lineman, great set of tight ends, and a nice RB/WR combo." But then reality sets in, and there's no way these defenders stop any D1 team. No playmakers in the group, and a lot of low hanging fruit (or even worse, rotting fruit that fell off the tree all together). Hiring a DB coach probably would have made a lot of sense. When will the Riley apologists run out of excuses?

National Letter of Intent Day

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angry
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Thread for the Beavs 2012 class.

Updates throughout the day.

LOI Eve

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angry
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As you probably heard, Calvin Tonga (the lone DT) is going to sign with Colorado State.

Cleveland Wallace is still 50-50 between Oregon State and Washington. Some say Washington has the slight lead, now (and just yesterday people called me crazy for insisting they were in the picture).

Shelton is definitely gone.

Beavs add a nice greyshirt kicker in Garrett Owens.

Class semi falling apart over the past few days…class is suddenly looking average instead of very good. More recruiting disappointment from Riley & Co?

Basketball: Oregon State @ Oregon

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angry
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Jack:

Now we have the Civil War to figure out who we are and where we stand in our own league. Never mind that we had two heartbreakers and two lazy losses. It’s rival time. And nobody has a rival like Oregon State has a rival.

Sure, there are schools out there who have to put up with their younger sister school getting all the guys. And a lot of those little sisters are sluts too. But we get the one who comes with a fandom full of entitlement and a megaphone in every pot.

Or is it pot in every megaphone?

We have Ducks oozing out of every pore in our every day lives. We have to look at the toilet seat they use for a logo on the back of every other SUV on the road–SUV’s destined to never go off-road. They pump our gas. They bag our groceries. They ask us if we want more coffee. And they take our money at the local Dairy Mart.

And then there are the Ducks in our lives who didn’t even go to the school.

They’re so special that I don’t even want to talk about them. I forgive the kids who haven’t yet gone to school. But the adults who flash Ducks colors (white? grey? mauve? chartreuse?) and crow about the dominance of Duck High over all comers are just ridiculous. Some of them have never been on campus. They think parking at Alton Baker Park and walking to an event at Autzen makes one a Duck.

I guess I was a Duck when I saw the Indigo Girls open for the Dead in ’93?

I was certainly in the right state of mind.

There are some people out there who will cry and whine about me just being a hater.

But I don’t hate. That takes too much energy.

So the whine turns to cries of eternal envy.

Yeah… what I want most is have an identity of no identity. There’s nothing I want more in life than than to leave glitter wherever I go.

Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if the school just disappeared. My taxes would decrease instantly. I could sit on my porch and drink my coffee in peace. And we would decrease unemployement in Oregon by 80%.

I think that’s a win-win-win.

Then again, my wife graduated from the place. So it can’t be all bad.

Can it?

I should go before she reads this.

Beavs 75 – Ducks 62

Angry:

The Ducks are consistently average, and the Beavers are wildly inconsistent. Craig Robinson is "learning how to coach", Dana Altman knows how to coach.

These are the two biggest factors at play this afternoon. My guess is the "bad Beavers" show up, since it is a road game, and they are 2-4 away and 10-2 at home. So, that is one strike against the Beavers. As far as coaching, Altman has the clear advantage and the home crowd.

The Beavers are the better team on paper and have put up better stats, but the Ducks have the results. It's due to their tenacity and sound coaching.

I don't see a case for the Beavs unless they start the game hot and take the crowd out of it early. They'll also have to have someone go off for 30 and just dominate the game to win this one. e.g. Cunningham driving to the lane early and often. If each guy plays average, Altman will out coach Robinson and that'll be the difference. OSU has a size/rebounding advantage if they want it, but the Beavers don't always want it, often getting lazy on box outs, etc. If they get zoned and settle for three pointers, the outcome will be grave.

Altman will make the necessary adjustments and highlight the difference between average coaching and good coaching. With Beaver fans at the end of their ropes, I expect post-game message boards to light up with the "fire Craig Robinson" talk…

Altman's coaching adjustments, Duck's defense/tenacity, veteran leadership, consistency, and home court advantage win this for the bad guys.

72-65, Ducks

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