31.Dec.2016 General Thread

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The last thread provided a heapin’ helpin’ of schadenfreude (and presidential politics), probably worth a new thread while waiting for angry’s return and all that recruiting action promised by nicebeaver in a couple weeks.

Feel free to go OT.
Some areas worth considering:
-WBB plays UW Sunday, should be a good test
-MBB showed heart vs UCLA, when are we gonna see results?

-Thoughts on additions to FB staff?
-Bowl games winding down, what’s the impact on the Beavs/the PAC?
-How can angry apply for that 20 member fan advisory board mentioned yesterday evening by OwnTheState?

GO BEAVS!………………oob

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  • angry angry says:
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    First.

    PS. I’ll be back on the 3rd.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Hey angry, does your lady use an Instant Pot for any of her recipes? I got one for Christmas and need to figure out what to make with it other than rice.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Pulling a Riley on us?

      At least we know Prince can’t die again. So 2017 is already better.

      Be prepared for all you ever wanted for open dialogue and just the whole crap lingua franca of Peepee the frog and his king of orange.

      Thick doesn’t even cover how much any discussion about the Stupid man who is stupid and yet is our stupid POTUS will be. Imagine four years of stupid multiplied by stupid, divided by something, then multiplied by the square of stupid.

      Good fucking luck to all of you who just thought you were protesting some kind of PC or somethng.

      It is now on.

  • Youngorst says:
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    Orange and Fiesta confirming my belief that Big Ten was ridiculously overrated this year.

    This is why you can’t just track losses for the rankings, really inaccurate.

    Oklahoma and Penn State should have gotten their shots too.

    • scotty says:
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      You had me until that last line.

      • youngorst says:
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        Why? Both are conference champs and haven’t lost a game since September….Seems like they qualify to me.

        • youngorst says:
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          I’d take OU in a rematch with OSU personally.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            When did we last play OU?

            I’m thinking the early 70s maybe?

            Sure, I’ll take a rematch. But who will remember it as such?

        • scotty says:
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          Because if you can only pick 4, that would mean squeezing someone else out. I don’t think anyone deserved to be squeezed out in favor of OU or PSU. As far as PSU being conference champion, that was derived from an arbitrary geographic system of divisions. It does not mean they were actually the best team in the conference over the season. And before you say they beat Ohio State, they also had twice the losses of Ohio State, and got absolutely blown out by Michigan.

          • youngorst says:
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            They lost to Pitt in September, Clemson who just destroyed Ohio State also lost to Pitt. Penn State had bad month of September, I am not saying that shouldn’t matter but the idea that they are only conference champs because of divisions is nonsense or that Ohio State is clearly more deserving is nonsense, at worst they were co-champs with Ohio State while holding the tie-breaker and a 9 game winning streak which is a pretty damn strong resume.

            If I were only picking 4; I would have picked Penn State over Ohio State, said it on selection Sunday and still believe it today.

            You are falling for the old fashioned tracking of losses fallacy, “Ohio State has less losses therefore they are more deserving” is a very simplistic (and IMO wrong) way of determining the playoff field. The whole point of having a committee was to get away from that way of ranking teams.

            I think that if the committee waited till selection Sunday to release rankings they’d have put Penn State in over Ohio State. That is how it should work, releasing weekly rankings is a bad idea.

          • scotty says:
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            I think we’ll agree to disagree, my beaver friend 🙂

    • Jack Jack says:
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      What do orange and fiesta have to do with anything?

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    If New Years Eve is your time for assessing the legacy you are building, you may be inspired by Ken Goe’s recollection of a visit by Dennis Erickson.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/collegefootball/index.ssf/2016/12/saturday_morning_news_notes_li_47.html#incart_river_index

    And, one of the links provided by Goe in that piece is worth a read. Not surprising to see parallels between Kyle Whittingham and GA: The use of “co” OC’s and the need for a QB expert on staff at Utah are explored here:
    http://www.sltrib.com/home/4765837-155/kragthorpe-whittinghams-latest-search-must-deliver

    From that piece:

    Whittingham should be able to look beyond his usual, tight circle and find an innovator who can elevate Utah’s offense. Will he do it, though?

    Sound familiar?

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Let’s get Joe Montana.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      No… but it’s as poor a sample of writing I imagine I would see if I actually followed that link.

    • wannabeav says:
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      Chip Kelly may be available soon. wouldn’t that be something.

  • mckalk says:
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    Some shit out there already about Chip coming back to the college game. Speculation about the Arizona schools with Graham and Rich-Rod both having issues. I think it would be fun to have him in the P-12 again.

    • youngorst says:
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      I don’t see it, those jobs aren’t great and he could take a year off and get the pick of the litter next year. The only PAC job I could see him having an interest in would be UCLA if they canned Mora and were willing to pay 5 million a year.

      • mckalk says:
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        UCLA was put out there and also Texas A&M. A&M would be nice, if just to see Saban’s blood pressure rise.

        • youngorst says:
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          A&M would be interesting. And it would show some balls on Chip’s part. I do think being at a major college in TX, CA, or FL would probably be desirable to Chip since recruiting is rumored to be what he disliked most. Take a job in one of those states major universities and much of the recruiting is done for you.

          • mckalk says:
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            Yes, that’s why supposedly he’s not interested in Notre Dame….his dislike for recruiting and sucking up to boosters.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Sorry. Boosters are a part of the game. If you don’t win every single year, you deal with what the boosters think you should have done better.

            The same is true of the NFL, except the owner is a singular entity.

      • Jim says:
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        I could definitely see him at ASU. I don’t think the blue bloods want to risk him at this point. So, I think it would have to be a notch below like UCLA or ASU. And ASU should be a pretty good gig, with decent in-state recruiting and close proximity to So Cal.

        I heard a rumor he almost returned to UO, then backed out. He just may not want to return to college.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Watching a show on Netflix called “At all costs” which is about AAU basketball. I’ll admit I’m fairly naive about this shit but to me it’s sickening. These AAU teams are driven by money from shoe companies and exploiting teenage kids. They don’t give two shits about anyone. This is what has ruined college basketball.

    Now get off my lawn

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      If college basketball is ruined, why do I enjoy it?

      • Jack Jack says:
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        It’s his first exposure to the world of the Pump Brothers… apparently.

        If anyone knew how the world was stacked against CR when he started, maybe they wouldn’t have been the racist shits they were in some supposed critique of his coaching.

        But they were morons with mouths bigger than their brains, and we got what we got.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          speaking of racist shits, I’ll just leave this here……….

          From the previous thread

          Jack says:
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          Motherfucker is the king of snowflakes… an orange one at that… fake gilding, if you will.

          More correctly… he should be called a snowfake. And as Trumplethinskin takes your firstborn away for his foreign war(s) of choice, you can thank your stars that THE nigger didn’t kill America.

          Sleep well snowflakes, white as hell.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I did say that.

            Are you going to complain? Or is it all just a sliding scale of shitty morality for you?

            Let’s go back to posts by you on this very blog about Obama’s bro-in-law.

            Shall we?

            You can be dishonest with words all you want. But it’s time to call a spade a spade. I was loathe to believe the claims two months ago. But I have heard far worse from the Trump brigade now that they feel they can openly discuss their stupidity.

            And man, are they stupid… or just weenies afraid to speak truth for fear of retribution.

            Why bother softening what you and others think for the sake of PC? Be a man and announce everything in the vernacular of those who developed your brand of stupid and stuffed it into your tiny little head.

            Or are you too weak of mind to not bow to the PC words of weakness? What’s it going to be? Are we shedding PC because “fuck you” feels good to the fifth grade mentality? Or are we going to throw Peepee the frog back into the cowardly swamp from which he rose?

            You can’t have it both ways, snowflake.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            You do that. Calling you on your nonsensical bullshit.

            Go ahead. Go find them and copy/paste with links.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Sure.

            You tell me all the handles you use, and I’ll list some of their posts.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            .Lindsay’s four stomach’s. I think most here knew that.

            But keep up the good fight Jack. You’ve got just as many fake names here as personalities in your head

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I guess the bigger question that Robaminson needs asked….

            –wsn, March 6, 2014

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Beavs lose to Ratfuck 96-92. Lmfao. This abortion of a season is finally over. Praying robaminson leaves on his own or is fired.

            –wsn, March 19, 2014

          • Jack Jack says:
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            That’s just a quick look.

            Regarding multiple handles:
            I don’t need to create alternate stupid people who speak in your groupthink terms just to be able to knock the stupid down. There’s just that much stupid in the world. If you’re saying you’re not many or even any of them, so be it. But if you don’t see my avatar, it’s not me.

            Can you say the same?

          • WFO WFO says:
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            So Jack refers to half black people as niggers and that’s not racist, but WSN points out the fact that CR got hired and could recruit only because of his relation to POTUS and that is?

            If CR could coach he’d have a coaching job right now.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Dude… you are clueless… except for your last statement. What I provided was just a snapshot at the very end of CR’s tenure. There’s a shit ton more of it. I just called moron’s bluff.

            Shall we also talk about your misplaced whining about Solyndra and Benghazi in those same threads? It seems you were also a whiny follower of wrongful groupthink on those issues as well.

            At least you’re consistent when you call POTUS the half black.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Then post some shit that was actually racist or shut the fuck up, cupcake.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            You poor buttercup. You’re close on a lot of shit, but you succumb to the groupthink in the end.

            Robaminson isn’t racist? It’s just really really really really really stupid?

            Come on, son. You know better than that. You can shed the PC code crap language for racists. John Birch is in the White House now. Embrace it, son.

      • scotty says:
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        I don’t know, but I confess: I don’t generally enjoy it.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          I don’t either. To me it just appears to be one on one rat ball with an offensive concept. A single high ball screen with free lancing added in isn’t an offense. It’s too much like the NBA. Which I find even less enjoyable anymore.

        • angry angry says:
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          March Madness day 1 is usually cool, until the bracket blows up.
          Beav hoops was exciting last year. Otherwise agree with you guys.

          Remember Hoop Dreams? That showed well how much schools care about kids.

    • mckalk says:
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      There’s some shit in my neck of the woods called “classic basketball” they cut eight and nine year olds and the ones that make it pay a few hundred bucks for the priviledge. A neighbor’s kid could only make the “B” team and the parents told the coach, thanks but no thanks at that price and the coach got pissed off, said some crap about no chance of making the high school team in the future.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        And?

        If society doesn’t care about the education and welfare of those kids, why should we?

    • ObjCritic says:
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      It’s challenging to enjoy much of it if you analyze it or think about it too much. The whole college football context is fucked, high school following, but I hope that OSU can win a rose bowl with integrity.

      I don’t care about rigged bowl or playoff systems, if the Beavs won the Pac outright without recruiting scandals and player behavior problems, then won the rose bowl, great. I don’t care what theirranking would be or what others think of them. Not as “underdogs” or “Cinderellas,” but as a team that played the game well and knew they belonged there.

      Corruption generally follows in systems where’s there’s money to be made. AAU…Hell, how about Nike providing uniforms for college teams, hosting football camps at a Nike complex in Portland – which conveniently gets recruits close to Eugene and allows them to make the Nike/UO association if it wasn’t easy enough already….

      I return to my own lawn…

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Your tartan is fucking tiring.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          Your shtick is even more tiring. NBC indeed

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Leave television out of it moron… unless that’s where you spend your mind.

            As each of your kids goes off to die in a foreign land because a stupid trust fund brat bullied and lied and grifted his way into office, remember that you chose their fates with gusto.

            You don’t get to bitch and whine any more snowflake. Your guy is the man. This is what you wanted. This is what you’re going to get, you fucking pussy.

            Nut up, buttercup. This is your reward.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Not that it’s any of YOUR business, but I didn’t vote for him. So shut the fuck up with your stupid non nonsensical pure conjecture bullshit. You have zero idea what is going to happen in the next four years. I’ve stated it before and I’ll say it again. What you think, what you know and what you think you know are 3 different things. YOUR opinion is part of the reason he’s the president elect. Stop deflecting, whining, bitching, complaining and work on your own accountability. Which right now stands in the same pile. Pure shit.

            We survived 8 years of Bill Clinton. 8 years of your idol and 8 years of Obama. We will survive the next 4.

            And you’ve already stated your opinion of the “people” that live in “fly over states”. They aren’t people to you and your elitist ilk. It’s really sad but you’re too fucking smug to realize you’re doing EXACTLY what you accuse those “people” of.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I always love that stupid line. I will never borrow it, because it is really that stupid. But let’s sum up what you just wrote.

            Jack doesn’t know anything about what I think, so let me tell you all what Jack thinks.

            My attitude is just getting warmed up. The attitude you convey in your very last sentence is what mine was about two months ago. Now I realize that I am at fault for not raging against the machine, instead letting the people go on their merry way without knowing what I think about what they just openly said in the line at the supermarket.

            They’re going to hear it now. And I will cut no corners in the offing. Their brand of stupidity will be forcefully met with truth instead of me just going along to get along.

            8 years of my idol? My attitude has zero to do with stupid people thinking stupid things. If you want to bitch and whine about rural elites like you’re some stupid dating site with a bad jingle, be my guest. You’re still painfully wrong.

            You are getting precisely what your divisive ideas asked for. And now that you and everyone who whined about their wimpy little rural sensitivities are about to get killed off by the ultimate coastal elite, I has the sads for you too.

            Too wussy to put in a hard day’s work… to stupid to vote for the people who would let them be free. We’ve always been in it together. But you want it to be about what others think instead. That’s not going to fly any more.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            “My attitude is just getting warmed up. The attitude you convey in your very last sentence is what mine was about two months ago. Now I realize that I am at fault for not raging against the machine, instead letting the people go on their merry way without knowing what I think about what they just openly said in the line at the supermarket.

            They’re going to hear it now. And I will cut no corners in the offing. Their brand of stupidity will be forcefully met with truth instead of me just going along to get along.”

            Your attitude has been exactly the same since……. well, ever since I’ve been here. Nice try. Try shutting your elitist, holier than thou mouth and opening your brain and ears.

            Speaking of morons…………..

            Spewing garbage that your liberal studies professor drilled into your head is exactly the same as spewing the same garbage that was drilled into your head in church. Neither is “free thinking”

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I’ve plainly stated many things here that you can compile. Some are liberal. Some are conservative. And yet you choose to create straw men instead?

            Your nihilism knows no bounds.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            And while I won’t deny my own lunacy, I do have to say that it’s hard to take your assessment of me seriously. I’ve had you arguing with well known movie and literary (mostly non sequitur, but sometimes relevant) quotes many times.

  • deskahutez says:
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    Just throwing it out there, but I learned today that Scott Barnes has a senior son who is a decent hooper. Missed his junior year with an injury. 6′ 8″ and looks like he still has room to grow. I personally think we need to get a couple of athletic freaks on our squad if we are going to rise to the top of the PAC, but he could be a kid who Tinkle brings on and he is able to contribute down the road, plus he wouldn’t cost us a scholarship. Just throwing scenarios out, not saying I have heard any buzz about it, but wouldn’t be surprised given Tinkle’s willingness to bring on staff kids.

    Here is to a great 2017 for Beaver Nation!

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Did you know that your handle backward is zetuhaksed?

      Cool stuff!

      http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/12/30/505410043/in-pro-brexit-english-city-a-jobs-crisis-is-averted-but-for-how-long

      • Burritodam says:
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        Non-sequitur. It’s a neat deal. If we vote against our livelihood the terrorists win!

    • ChrisOSAlum ChrisOSAlum says:
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      Why is it that the coaches kids are using scholarships while Barnes kid would not? Presumably. Apologies if this has been covered already.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Any one of them has the option to forgo a ship and pay their way. But usually when one does it’s because they’re only good enough to walk on at this level.

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          I would think that it would be a good strategy for the coaches to pay their kids way through college to potentially get three more scholarships (I’m counting two Thompsons and one Tinkle) for the team. If they are not doing it, there must be a rule or ethical reasons for not doing it. It can’t be about the money since it’s only a couple months salary for these guys. Maybe they could not find two more players in the last two classes – and one for next – that would make them better? Doesn’t make sense…

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Well… the money is a little different for an assistant than it is for the head coach. But I think if push came to shove Tinks would pay for Tres to get a must have player. That’s what Greg McDermott did with his son his senior year.

            The problem isn’t the ship count. Rather, it’s getting that must have player

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Happy New Year Angrybeavs!

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Happy new year degenerates! May 2017 be prosperous for you and your ingrates.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Looks like the preseason polls were right. Bama’s D is like an assembly line. Every year they lose a few AA’s and number one picks and seamlessly replace them the next season.
    Hopefully Clemson can beat them. UW and tOSU were a year early to the party.

    • scotty says:
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      Not sure I can root for Clemson anymore after that weird-ass molestation by number 42. That’s just not right.

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    “Hey Chip…. I we’ve got a spare room at the house here in Maui…come spend a few weeks and we can talk about getting the band back together somewhere. Mark”

    PS: instead of “win the day” how about “spend all day” bhwaa…-ha-ha

  • thebeaverman says:
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    Any names to keep an eye on for the assistant coaching hires?

    • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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      Was just going to post about that. Who are we hearing as potenial WR and Safties coaches?
      Would be nice to bring in somebody who has a couple of recruits willing to follow him.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      W.R.T. assistant football coaches: It would appear that the Utes and the Beavs have a similar need, that being a competent QB coach. Here’s hoping they’re both not going after the same guy(s).

      JMO obviously.
      =======
      The link to this story was originally posted by oob.

      Kragthorpe: Kyle Whittingham’s latest search must deliver a QB expert
      http://www.sltrib.com/home/4765837-155/kragthorpe-whittinghams-latest-search-must-deliver

      So here he goes again. Kyle Whittingham is giving himself the (almost) annual opportunity to do something extraordinary with Utah’s football program, for once.

      He’s persistent, if not consistent. The following excerpt is from the story that oob linked to.

      Will he succeed this time? Is this the moment when Whittingham’s adventurous management of his offensive staff finally produces a Pac-12 South championship? Or is he doomed to remaining just short of the elite level of his profession, having never discovered an offense to match his defense?

      Friday’s moves of co-offensive coordinator Aaron Roderick’s firing and running backs coach Dennis Erickson’s retirement give Whittingham two offensive openings. Utah needs a quarterbacking expert. That’s priority No. 1, whether the new coordinator has such expertise himself or brings in someone else to work exclusively with the QBs. A coach with a background like that of David Yost, newly hired as Utah State’s offensive coordinator, is what Utah needs.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        I don’t see anything in that article about us needing a QB coach. And I sort of appreciate the one we have for being able to get MM out of his head and into the game.

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    WBB up on PAC12 Net now, end of first qtr and Gulich with a nice move to make it 21-14 good gals, capping a 7-0 run.

    UPDATE: #22 Beavs lead #9 Huskies at the half. 44-22, Gill rockin’, we don’t need no stinkin’ modern building!!

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Holy crap!

      1st half:
      OSU: FG% 58, 3% 64, reb 23, bench pts 21, paint pts 22, A 15
      UW: FG% 24, 3% 42, reb 13, bench pts 2, paint pts 4, A 4

      We don’t even need to know the TO numbers.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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        But, they are using that “lady’s ball”!

        • Jack Jack says:
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          That does make the game a ton easier. But you still have to get open looks.

    • scotty says:
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      Grimace lost weight!

  • scotty says:
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    Well that got scary at the end… would have been an epic choke but the ladies pulled through 🙂

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    A belated Happy New Year everyone.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR – Auld Lang Syne by Sissel
    https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Rtajxo8d7js?rel=0&controls=0&showinfo=0

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Chio Kelly officially canned. Too bad we’re set at OC already…

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Saw people talking about Packers assistant John Rushing as a potential defensive coach on Scout. Coached at Utah State previously. Don’t know if there are any legs to that talk, but fits the criteria (previously worked for a utah college football team)

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