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  1. Starting to see the football coaches recruiting areas as they come out of the dead period and high schools send out their “thank you for visiting” tweets.
    Coach Ford – Tacoma/Seattle area (of course)
    Coach Cooper – San Diego
    Coach DeVan – Arizona
    Coach Boyer – Central Valley (CA)

        • Well he runs a lot like his dad, is big and physical but also elusive, has great speed and vision. Also from Las Vegas area.
          Likes to truck safeties and dbs in the open field and will outrun lbs who take bad angles. Doesn’t get arm tackled, but can sometimes dance a bit too much after the handoff so he will get gang tackled for loss of 3 yards periodically.
          Is loyal and may play his entire career with one team.
          Spitballing the last few lines…but if he is reminiscent of his dad, all are true.

        • He didn’t start playing until his freshman year due to his parents’ safety concerns. Already a big producer at RB. Similar height to his dad.

          We know SJ is a hardcore Beaver for life, so we’ll at least have a chance with him if he ends up as a big recruit. Doesn’t look like he’s had much recruiting attention yet, but he’s starting to get it.

          • Also intertesting tid bit- he is HS teammates with MLB prospect we’ve been on for a year or so with huge upside. Who is also officially visiting this weekend- class of 25′ kid. We have a great shot at getting the verbal commit soon from

          • Wonder if that visit will actually happen if the weather stays icy out? Portland airport is getting freezing rain throughout the night tonight. Not really worth it to ask a kid to make an unnecessary visit.

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    From comment in previous thread:

    Dansen, Beav in OH re: Ephesians & Exodus

    Also, Salahadin Allah.

    Announcers this coming season will need to brush up on their Abrahamic religions as well as medieval history XD

  3. Speaking of MONEY, this from MLive via a FOIA request:
    As part of Smith’s seven-year, $52.85 million contract, only coordinators and the head strength and conditioning coach can receive three-year deals …
    Noteworthy that the S/C coach is up there with coordinators (who both make at least $1 million).

    BTW, Offensive line coach and run game coordinator Jim Michalczik will make $1 million in 2024 and receive a $100,000 raise the following season. He made $775,000 last season at Oregon State, according to USA TODAY.

    https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/01/three-michigan-state-football-assistants-will-make-at-least-1-million-this-year.html

  4. Beavs offer Jackson Kollock. 2025 QB who decommited from UW. Think we had brought him up earlier but wasn’t an official offer that I’m aware of. He just posted it about 30 min ago. Believe Gundy was in on him at UCLA. Don’t know much about him. 3* big frame. 6’4″ and 215 lbs.

  5. Lots of talk around these stupid congressional hearings about players being deemed employees instead of students. Anyone think this will actually happen? Seems like a stretch for anyone that doesn’t play a revenue sport, and the death knell for non-revenue sports if it does happen.

  6. Speaking of Steven Jackson’s son.

    I see Al Afalava has a kid name Darius that looks to be a pretty good D Line recruit, ton of offers anyway. Anybody know where we stand with him?

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      Last second 3 breaks the drought. Utes went on an 18-0 run during that 10 minute, 45 seconds.

      Over half of the first half they didn’t score a single point. And that’s not the first time it’s happened this season.

      Let that sink in.

      I’m only watching for the lol factor and sheer boredom.

      These players deserve better than this.

      Stinkle ball. Barf. Maybe we need to start spam emailing the AD to get rid of this ass clown.

      • Yup, how long is Barnes going to put up with this bullshit? I bet Pope doesn’t come back, why would he? I noticed he took a three while he was being triple-teamed, that says frustration to me.

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        can we start a gofundme for his buyout?
        if we link it to articles and boxscores, we can probably get some sympathetic national attention.

        I’ll be a Dons fan, until Tinkle leaves… or until Gerlufsen leaves.

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        You guys need to remember this is a young team still trying to gel together and learn the system. It is pretty unrealistic to expect a team with so much youth to play like 4 year veterans. We know how unstable the sport is and the great difficulty of keeping a roster together for several seasons. And we are still trying to overcome a fractured lockerroom from 2 years ago. This group will probably start figuring some things out around June and we should be playing our best ball by then. Coach Tinkle.

        • That’s been WT built in excuse for years now. Works on a lot of people. Hey new roster. Young team. Just need time to grow and develop. Rinse and repeat.

          • I thought I read where the Wazzu head coach, Kyle Smith has an almost completely new roster, and look at the impressive start they are off to.

          • I can guarantee that if I took over our hoops team as coach we would win some road games.

            I absolutely guarantee that. There are zero questions in my mind that it would not happen.

            I will not watch them now, because it’s a given loss.

  7. Seems like transfer activity is pretty much wrapped up for the time being. Did everyone make it on campus and enrolled? If not, they aren’t likely to be here for spring ball. Last year’s spring practice started first week of March with the last scrimmage in mid April. I’d expect similar timing.

    Spring portal is Apr 15th to 30th.

    Does Scotty have an updated scholarship count? or maybe scotty doesn’t know

  8. New 2025 QB offer to Robert McDaniel from CA: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/16375551/64ef6e492aa65307703e9db6

    Looks like a prolific small school kid. Several offers from a lot of the better G5 teams (App State, Liberty, Toledo, etc.). Looks like UCLA had been recruiting him previously. I think we’re his first P5 offer (yes, I still consider the PAC2 a P5). Really quick release and good mobility.

    Is this Gundy’s first HS QB offer? We had a bunch of 2025 offers earlier to higher-ranked guys that it doesn’t look like we’ve had much traction with (unsurprising, given JS/BL track record).

    • We offered Jackson Hollock who decommitted from UW with the coaching change. Other than that, not aware of any other 2025 than those 2

      • Good call. Forgot we already brought in a HS QB.

        I just watched his highlights again. Dude is a state champ, top 5 in the state all time in multiple stats, can sling it 60 yards easily, his coach let him call plays from the LOS and he hurdles people. How do guys like this still get underrecruited in this day and age?

        He’s definitely not as fast as Chiles in the open field, but he extends the play really well in the backfield.

        https://www.hudl.com/profile/15100880/Kallen-Gutridge

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          look at how compact his motion is.

          it’s like he’s throwing darts. and he can do it in yoga positions with big people on him. he can flick the ball further than a lot of qbs I’ve seen.

          and then he drops it in the bucket.

  9. Thanks to Daschel for doing the math but Beavs basketball is 1-25 on the road the last 3 years. Lol. That’s just such an incredibly bad number. 1 fucking win?!

      • Man, Tinkle needs to go. I’m all for Jack’s idea of a go fund me or something. Last night was horrible. Saw a write up about the game online and the writer said the Beavs had jet lag because of a long flight delay in Eugene because of weather. No quotes from WT but its not that long of a flight.

        • The flight’s not long but what they threw up on TV was an 8:00am arrival at the airport and they didn’t land until after midnight.

  10. Sounds like Sports Illustrated just folded. Laid off their entire staff. The ceo was fired recently for publishing articles written by AI with fake authors. Interesting.

    • That’s a group that absolutely failed to adapt to the changing media landscape. The brand still has some cachet, I’m sure someone will buy it and resurrect it.

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          have you looked at a swimsuit issue lately?
          They’ve gone so overboard with the whole diversity of body types/genders/etc. it’s nothing like the old days( I think that used to be their best selling issue?)
          There’s a decent chance that model on the pages used to be a 300lb man. Just a different world and there’s not much of a market for it.

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            That’s enough for me to start drinking over-priced cheap beer, just so I can angrily boycott my new choice of over-priced cheap beer.

          • Do what you want with your money.

            I never drank bud light or read sports illustrated, but apparently the people that did weren’t interested in the direction those companies went so they voted with their wallets.

            I don’t see the problem.

          • They were stupid enough to be drinking over-priced cheap beer.

            There is no surprise, when they stupidly shoot cases of it on social media.

            Absolutely none.

            It’s just stupidity on parade.

          • tbh, he could have just asked the first question and saved the sllly rant.

            pretty sure all the answers would have been, “No.”

            But there are teenage boys remaining in some of us.

            The rest of us realize we were able to buy porn at a certain age, and SI became irrelevant..

          • stupidity on parade

            there’s zero surprise that anyone doesn’t know that “america first” isn’t just a Nazi slogan adopted by possibly the most abjectly stupid trust fund baby that ever existed.

            Seriously, the man speaks in stupid. The stupid is his lexicon. He is stupid.

            He is possibly the stupidest person I’ve ever been forced to listen to, simply because his stupid ass was put in charge of stuff.

            The.Stupidest.Person.Ever.

            And that all his campaign slogans are Nazi doesn’t help.

        • A great political cartoon once featured hugh hefner with the S-I swimsuit issue, and he was saying “I only get it for the articles.”

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    the new Reser is trend-setting. Northwestern is demolishing their old stadium, capacity 47,000, and replacing it with a new facility, capacity 35,000. Almost spot on the Reser number. in the Big 10. In Chicago.

    • If TV rules, what the hell does stadium size have to do with anything?

      There’s a field, and your team can play on it, or they can’t.

      How many fans are there to witness it does not matter in any way, these days.

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    Beers misses two FT in a row; she has shown to be pretty streaky in that aspect
    4 min into the 2nd qtr and Cal gets its first lead.

    UPDATE: Beavs down by 10 with 3:20 left in the 3rd. Beers 0 of 6 FT’s

  13. WBB now up by one with 5 minutes left. Beers is now 1-10 from the line. Weird, they wouldn’t be in the game if it wasn’t for her, but you can’t miss that many free throws. Playing on the road is tough, but Lady Beavs need this game. They are better than Cal.

  14. Big comeback vs Cal, 71-64 after being down 14 at one point.
    Beers after going 1 of 10 hits 2 FT’s near the end.
    Paurova 16 pts and never missed, added a nice assist to Gardiner for a 3 with 1:15 to go in the game.
    T. Gardiner 18 pts, 4 of 4 FT late

    • They needed that W. The next 4 weeks is brutal as 7 of the 8 games are vs ranked opponents.

      Top to bottom the Pac is by far the toughest conference this year.

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    I will be surprised if. on Sunday, against the Beavs, the Stanford wbb coach doesn’t get her whatever the number is to tie the Duke mbb coach most wins#.

    • Signs were pointing that way but glad it’s official. OT was one of my big concerns so this is very welcome news. I’m sure next year’s starting quarterback is happy as well.

    • Will have to wonder what the status of Brewer is. Not sure he meets the criteria to get a 6th year. Typically he would have needed to miss two years due to injury.

      • His path is a little different than most.

        2019 played JUCO at Laney(Last Chance U)
        2020 – redshirt year but also Covid year
        2021 – played redshirt Soph
        2022 – played redshirt Junior
        2023 – Injured all season

        If that’s all accurate, then I dont think he technically used his redshirt year yet since it was 2020.
        So either he could use his redshirt year still, or he would be a candidate for a medical hardship for an extra season.

        Originally was class of 2018 but legal trouble in HS caused a delayed start to college. I don’t think he played in 2018 at all, but I’m not 100% certain.
        2018 could have been considered his redshirt year I guess, if he was enrolled but didnt play more than a few games for Laney.

        • Just think of it as if 2020 doesn’t count in any way toward eligibility, because it doesn’t.

          There were several athletes in all sports who simply sat out for a year, and the NCAA wasn’t going to question the best decision for each individually. So it’s where the “extra year” comes from. It just benefits football players in this way.

          • I didnt count it. Just wrote out what the OSU profile page for Brewer says.
            But they also say he played for Laney in 2019, as a freshman, but helped them to a state title in 2018. So it almost sounds like he played a short season in 2018, but it’s not clearly written.

          • I think the only difference would be whether or not he had to apply for a medical hardship, which he would probably easily get, if he hasn’t done so already.

        • Somebody is telling me Angie doesn’t think he’s coming back to play any more football.
          It’s Electric Eye vs Angie, for all the marbles

          • Marco and my son were both on the football team at chs and socialize a bit…he was in my store a month or so ago, told me he planned on playing next year. Although Akili Arnold told me he needed surgery and was coming back next year a week before he left too though so who knows for sure I guess

    • I doubt that is going to stop us from offering if its a big upgradein in an area of need. Based off of Beav Blitz reporting, we’re already over scholarships…sitting at 91. So anyone that’s committed recently was already given a scholly we didn’t have. Have to drop at least 6 but Blitz was also thinking we’d have around 10 guys move on that are still on the team. Would also seem likely that they’ll want to wait until spring camp as another round of xfers or juco guys come available. They’re all out on the trail recruiting the HS kids now.

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            I actually really like Brennan, I think he would have been a home run hire.

            I really like Bray so this isn’t an anti-Bray thing. I probably hire Bray given the situation also. But I expect Brennan to be very successful at Arizona whom I follow a bit since I actually started college there.

  16. Beavs already down 15 in Boulder. MBB is ground hog day! Same poor result game after game. How much longer do we have to put up with Tinks! Obviously he’s not going to step down as he should have a number of years ago. Sad thing the program is in such poor shape who would want to come in and clean up this train wreck?

    • Crazy thing is the talent level isn’t bad. Pope and Bilodeau are studs. Rataj always looks better when he’s not surrounded by this garbage coaching staff. Ndong looks like a future solid big. An actual coach worth a damn could face some real pieces if they don’t transfer. They just got to find the money to get Tinks out. I can’t remember a time when the program had such overwhelming lack of interest and I remember them going winless in conference play. So glad they “got their culture back” tho.

      • To be honest I don’t watch much college hoops too much anymore primarily because the Beavs have stunk it up for so many years less their final 8 run. Even Mizzou stinks this year!

      • It’s sort of men against boys tonight. Outmatched in every facet. Of course, the numbnuts announcers were praising Tinkle and his “system”. I have to hand it to WT, he must be a great guy, he has built an abundance of goodwill around the league. The other coaches probably want him to stay so they keep having sure wins.

    • I don’t know anything about him or if he’d even have interest, but maybe the USF Dons coach? They seem to be decent and near the top of the WCC every year.

      • Gerlufsen

        His offense is fun to watch.

        St Mary’s is at USF tonight. It’s a lot more fun than Pac hoops, at the moment.

        Mgongo and Williams work well together. And when they get going, they share the wealth.

  17. Last Beaver MBB game I watched, Tinkle had Craig Robinson energy, like towards the end of CR’s tenure. He just seemed done with it. Signaled to me there’s no point in tuning in as a fan till he’s gone.

    • Yeah pretty sad. Seems like he’s been coaching for 20 years. I remember the 70’s and 80’s undet Ralph, when I think we were top MBB in all time wins!

    • We do need to admit that we screwed that up, because Howland.

      The negative of having Howland would have subsided, because he would have been gone by now. Buyt we could have had worse than Tinkle.

  18. The remaining fans that can stomach attending at Gill need to bring signs for Scott Barnes to “Fire Tinkle”
    Tinkle has mailed it in for several years now and needs to just move on. He is the biggest fraud at OSU since Craig Robinson, Jay John, Ritchie Mackay, Eddie Payne…

  19. per the boregonian……

    “The Beavers completed a two-game road trip that is among the worst in program history. OSU lost by 33 to Colorado and 27 at Utah on Thursday. Not even the 3-28 (2021-22) and 5-27 (2016-17) teams had a two-game road trip where it lost by a combined 60 points.”

    Arizona and ASU come to Gill next week. See any wins there? Dry January continues

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    OSU needs to just flush the Tinkle era and start over. Now is the time for Barnes to appeal to the alumni base to donate to a buyout campaign because a once great basketball school is being embarrassed by Tinkle’s train wreck.

    • I do wish he’d agree to just defer the rest of the money he’s owed out, say 10 years or so. He has another $10mil left on the deal. I don’t see the Beavs doing any better in the WCC where hoops is pretty much the whole ball game. Right now if you use Sagarin, they are 11th in the Pac-12, and 9th in the the 10 team WCC (12 with the Beavs and Cougars).

      • Tinkle would have to agree to that and why would he? I do think Barnes has to pull the trigger even if it means finding someone on the cheap and hoping for the best, can’t be any worse.

  21. Spaces on “X” if anyone wants to listen. Damien Martinez joins about 25 or 30 min. Talks a bit about Gundy and how he’s going to open up and create space. Def sounds like we could be in for much more of the 3 and 4 wide sets. He also mentioned that the offense didn’t seem to change at all and now teams had several years of film and the offense was the same.

    https://x.com/i/spaces/1mrGmyLwmDnGy

    • The Niners are so successful on offense because they have a QB that can identify a zone and receivers that can find holes in that zone, and tight ends that can beat man. They go 3 or 4 wide then come back with a zone run in a tight formation which forces the defense to adjust how many down linemen to play.

      We effectively saw that in 2018 and 2019 under Smith but afterwards we didn’t have the receivers who could beat man coverage consistently, so teams would play press man and we shifted to throwing more fades.

  22. Wanna shake things up?

    Fire Stinkle. And hire Gary Payton to lead this program. This is exactly what this program needs right now. Just like Prime with CU. Could things really get any worse?

  23. Sounds like Camerson Brink is a game time decision for today’s WBB game at Stanford, because of a leg injury that cased her to miss the 2nd half vs oregon

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    Lane Kiffin shared an article that reports, based on CFB Focus info, that Ohio State has spent $13 mill on their 2024 roster so far. Still in the running for a top WR xfer from Bama and looking for some OL help. So that # will likely go up. This is incredible. Really emphasizes what Bray and Co have been able to do with nowhere near those resources.

  25. Someone at tOSU opened up the checkbook. They just got a commitment from Bama transfer QB Sayin, who was also the #1 QB in last year’s class.

  26. Tara gets #1203 at the expense of a senior-less Beavs squad; 65-56.
    Points off of TO’s favored the winners by 16-5, Beavs shot 25% from 3, rebounds nearly even.
    Rematch coming at Gill, 2-29……..Cameron Brink likely to return, ugh.

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    Funny, saw Caitlin Clark was trending and figured it was because of some crazy half court shot she made or something, but instead it was because Ohio State beat Iowa. But in the aftermath, the fans stormed the court and Clark and a fan collided, which cause Clark to be helped limping off the court.
    Then this video comes out that pretty clearly shows she initiated the contact and flopped. Which in a way is pretty smart because now Ohio State is going to get fined for not protecting the court better and lack of player safety

    https://twitter.com/crassiux/status/1749198992422908243

    • It was just out of habit. She is a soccer player on the court when it comes to contact and flips more than LeBronda James.

      Clark is one of the more skilled and likable women’s bb athletes but ESPN makes it tough to like anyone they hype for ratings constantly.

      • Frankly, the slo-mo and glitch-action is bullshit.

        Play the tape at a real speed, and it will probably show how violent it actually was–unintentional, of course. But two blind runners colliding, with one looking like a knee-knock and possible hyperextension is easily seen, if dumb tape guy doesn’t glitch the tape for hype.

  28. Both of the Arizona TEs in the portal, Dorian Thomas and Keyan Burnett, withdrew and are staying at Az. Good job Brennan, or collective. Either way I was hoping for one of them. Both had history with Ford and Moala.

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    Just to put the Brewer impact in perspective, he was really good in 2021, but not in 2022 before he got hurt. Never was a good pass blocker. He’d be coming back from injury. This is a blow, but it’s not that big a blow. We still return 4 veteran OL; we just need one young guy to step up.

    PFF Grades
    2021
    OVR: 89
    PBL: 58
    RBL: 93

    2022
    OVR: 61
    PBL: 55
    RBL: 62

  30. https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/01/oregon-state-offensive-lineman-marco-brewer-charged-with-assault-after-a-domestic-violence-incident.html

    Daschel with an update on the Brewer arrest.

    “Two charges were filed Monday by Benton County District Attorney, of assault in the fourth degree constituting domestic violence and harassment. Both are misdemeanors. Brewer is currently being held at Benton County jail.”

    “Brewer, 24, is accused of grabbing the arm of a woman during an argument, scratching her skin and causing bruising to her arm, according to the Corvallis police.”

    “We were made aware of the alleged incident involving Marco Brewer. We are in the process of gathering more information and will have no further comment at this time,” Oregon State athletic director Scott Barnes said in a statement.”

    “Brewer is technically out of eligibility, but could apply for a medical redshirt due to his injury history. Brewer is currently listed on Oregon State’s roster, but it is unclear as to whether he’ll be a part of the Beavers’ 2024 team.”

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      Seems like some chick is being overly dramatic. Definitely shouldn’t have grabbed her but how many times are both men and women grabbed by the arm without incident. Seems really wild to file a police report for being grabbed by the arm. Does this happen if he’s not a football player? I can never imagine me grabbing someone by the arm and it being taken to the police unless I was someone of stature.

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        That all being said it could’ve been malicious I shouldn’t assume. Let’s not forget he’s been training at basically pushing people around his whole adult life and could’ve easily overused his strength on a much smaller female.

    • Released on own recognizance as of this afternoon.

      Pretty telling that he wasn’t able to post bail and had to hang out in Benton County Jail for a couple days.

  31. Keirh Heyward started following the former duck OLineman, Jonah Tauanu’u today. He’s the former top 100 recruit who medically retired but is trying to bounce back via the JUCO ranks

      • Let us know when they start following a decent TE. Kind of wondering if they simply abandon the TE for a year and run 5 wide which would create more space theoretically for Martinez in running situations.

      • It was several years ago and I think Heyward overlapped. During the Cristobal era. Moala was at OSU then.

        Heyward’s not the first OSU coach to follow him, he’s just the most recent after the last time I mentioned him over a week ago. And I take it as a good sign that we’re still pursuing him.

    • About time getting around to Tauanu’u. He was tweeting about being offered by Texas Southern the other day. How are schools missing on him? His JC highlights consist of Jonah dominating the opponent, which is what they should be showing. Top 10 OT in the 2019 class. Let’s go!!

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    So sad to hear of Rob Holbrook’s passing. Loved watching him play on those Orange Express team of the early 80’s. That was when sports were a simpler time and more guys were local from the state of Oregon (Holbrook, Blume, Radford, Sitton, Green, Stangel, Stoutt, etc). RIP.

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        63 years old. His father said it was a cardiac event. Sad. I forgot that he pitched for the baseball team every season after basketball ended. True two-sport college athlete.

        • Thank you mckalk! Those players names bring back a lot great memories. Remember Danny Evans bombing away from the perimeter?!

          • RIP Rob…

            I was at OSU during those years–have some great stories from then.

            1) Snuck into Gill night before a Saturday day game against the Ducks-on regional TV (big deal then). Hung a frozen duck in the rafters with orange and black crepe paper. When lineups being announced, dropped the duck at half-court to about height of the PA system. Nobody knew what the hell was going on…staff couldn’t get to it until halftime- so during first half the refs would have to towel the blood dripping on the floor.

            2) Students would camp out on the ramp overnight to get best seats. Several of us got on the concessionaire’s list and we’d check in about 10 minutes prior to gates opening. Then we’d hide in the bathroom, run out and get front row railing seats when we heard the rumble of the crowd coming in. Got a lot of WTF looks from the guys who were first in line camping.

            Good times~

          • Yes, I saw an NIT game at Gill (one of Ralph’s down seasons) where Danny came out on fire. I swear they were using a red, white, and blue basketball. Most of his shots would have been three-pointers a few years later. They won the game, but I can’t remember who they played.

          • Talking to myself–have to get a life…just looked up that season and they played Idaho, New Orleans and Fresno State at Gill in the NIT tourney…

  33. Weird, our former OL and DL coaches from the Andersen era are now working for our former DC from that era.
    TJ Woods amd Coach Chad were hired this offseason by Sitake

    • I guess we’ll find out just how much of it was him and if the rest of the staff is any good. Sitake has done decent at byu. I thought the woods did a pretty good job with the Oline while he was here. Everything else was shit but the run game.

  34. Tre Smith the DE from SJSU would be a big get. One more year for him to play for NFL draft stock. You have to think Arizona would have the inside track, though.

  35. I think Ioane is excited to be a Beav. I’ve never seen so many post-commitment posts from one player. He’s posting multiple per day right now.

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    Just wait until Sparty fan has to hear Lindgren wax poetic about balance, and JS justify his incoherent aggressive play calls that cost them winnable games. Actually glad they are both gone. JS had his moments but his tenure was filled with puzzling decisions that got overlooked or given a pass because the context was “he is better than GA” or “the favored son returns and can do no wrong”.
    I give him 3 years at MSU and Bray will win more games than him in that span.

  37. There’s an interview with Chiles on Olive behind a paywall. In the first little bit tho it says Chiles asked smith if he was leaving 2 weeks before the ucks game. I couldn’t read any further but definitely shows that players knew quite a bit prior to him announcing.

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      Smith told chiles to focus on the games going forward. Chiles alludes to only knowing smith was leaving until after the CW. Chiles is running interference, he also took a shot at our fans,
      “Playing in front of 75,000, 80,000 compared to 30,000, and then the love and support you get out here (East Lansing), and how invested everyone just is,” Chiles said. “He didn’t really have to sell me too much”. fuck him too.

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          I understand that, but the jabs by both Smith and Chiles don’t sit right with me. If they want to leave then leave but don’t use some offhanded comments to justify your decision. It’s a bad look especially to the team and fans you walked away from.

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            They deserve my apathy.

            Too much effort for anything more, and I’m too lazy to get worked up over some other school’s nonsense.

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        Also sounded like Traitor Smith asked him to go well before he entered the portal too. Clearly some tampering but NCAA cares more about buying a kid a fucking cheeseburger than coaches leaving, gutting a team of players and staff and having illegal conversations with said players. Personally don’t think Smith lasts more than 3-4 years there. Either he has some form of success and goes to a better job or he’ll be mid to lower finishes in B10 and MSU moves on.

        • Good point. He said smith talked to him about going to Lansing shortly after the CW which was on November 24. Chiles didn’t enter the transfer portal until December 6.

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        He’s just a manipulated 18 year old. And JS is the ringleader of the group.

        Interesting how Chiles was playing off any recruitment to USC and not really wanting to play for Lincoln Riley in USC because it was too glitzy for his personality but he thinks MSU will be low key and less
        Pressure…until Michigan kicks them by 40 again and he has no shot at any real
        Success over the next 3 years playing in Lindgrens balanced offense in a defensive league where his bag of tricks won’t work more than a couple
        Of times.
        Nice backhanded comment about MSU caring more. Good luck when you have 80,000 booing you and your moronic coach after another baffling trick play costs you another game.
        At least we know he came to OSU for his veterinarian degree…

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        He’s scooching those numbers a bit Mich st had an average home attendance of 67k and we had an avg home attendance of 37k so a valid point but not accurate numbers. Plus I’ve seen mich states stadium on tv a couple times. it has that 9am feel to it, no energy. Anyways I hope he enjoys going 4-8 or 3-9 next year

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          I’m sure he’ll do fine.

          And if he makes it to the NFL, I might see him play again.

          I’m not going to lose sleep over the coach formerly known as Niner or any of the claptrap from its direction.

          We have more important things to worry about.

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        “and then the love and support you get out here (East Lansing), and how invested everyone just is,” Chiles said. “

        Translation: big fucking bag of money.

    • Up above I linked to the source of the Olive interview, Olive just linked to the podcast from a MiSt honk and then, after an hour or so, put it behind a paywall.

  38. Gotta love confidence:

    “I’m physical. I love attacking my opponents, I have great speed so I can cover as well in coverage and my explosion to the tackle. I also have great IQ, I love watching film.” – 2025 ILB Ioane

  39. Remember a month or so ago that MHVer twitter account dropped some teasers about some unknown “TKO” group who was in discussions with the Big12 about buying their rights if they grew their conference and starting a new streaming service for college football?
    Today there was news that TKO group, headed by The Rock, is buying the rights to the WWE and moving them to Netflix.

    So maybe there were legs to that rumor.
    I could go for Pac/Big football streaming on Netflix.

    https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1749791736879054957?t=RCVoEReANdyMojTmKUXXbQ&s=19

    • He is a mercenary and a fool to tout the returning guys and making another run like they just did. He has to know they only have 3 returning starters right? UW had the most 6 year players in the country I think, and multiple guys left for the draft early so they are gutted and will get clobbered in the Big10 anyway.

      Smart move to threaten to leave in order to force UW alumni to sweeten the NIL deal.

  40. Daschel reports on the contract between OSU/WSU and the WCC, a few items of interest:
    -Deadline for adding baseball to the WCC deal is this Friday
    -any NCAA men’s basketball tournament credits earned by Oregon State and Washington State go to the WCC
    -The contract does not have an option to extend the agreement beyond the 2025-26 school year.

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      Transforming the network into a regional sports access channel for the West would be the optimal outcome. The NFL and NBA may both be looking for regional producers for non-national games in the near future. And all schools in the footprint could take advantage of it, just as the 10 will likely need to continue doing.

      I don’t understand how so many learned administrators could not see opportunities, even in the short term, with an asset which literally grants exposure.

      I would go so far as to have a nightly report with highlights of each day for several sports on several levels within the footprint.

      I said in the beggining I could draw a straight line from this to The creation of the State Bank and State Granary of North Dakota. Those farmers were fed up with having to do business on the financiers’ terms, so they collectivized and created two co-ops which gave them the tools to do business on their terms.

      Those who are not leaders are followers.

      • After watching a few seasons of Pac12 network produced games vs ESPN/Fox/CBS produced games for the Beavs, it was pretty clear that Pac12 had a higher qualitu product than the other networks, they just didnt have the distribution.
        Nobody could see the games that didnt have Comcast/Sling, but they were well done.
        And the announcers were much better than the lower tier ESPN crews they’d give us

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      I’ve talked to current/former OSU players who have flat out told me Oregon has reached out to them via back channels (agents) to try to poach them from our roster over the past year. It happens everywhere though. The rules are not written well enough to cover all types of tampering, nor is there much the NCAA has shown they will do to police it anyway.

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        It’s going to keep happening until a school tries to do something about it. Would be nice if a big case could kind of reel this in.

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        Bray talked about it on Conzano. He didn’t mention the quacks but said players on the roster and not in the portal are getting calls all day everyday. One of these times, coaches are going to start naming names and schools. It’s going to be great.

  41. I’d bet they promote their OC after being the interim during the suspensions and beating Ohio State. Have to give him a year this late in the cycle, but I also thought Washington would promote their OC. All the big names signed extensions with massive buyouts already this offseason.

  42. Bray and Co pulling out all the stops on the OL Jayden Tuia. Not only had a recent visit in Corvo but DeVan, Gundy and Bray were all in Idaho doing a home visit. DeVan was also there at a home visit on Jan 15th. Considering his “best” offers are from Oregon State, Nevada and Fresno State, you’d hope they could land this guy, especially since he seems like a guy that will need some time to grow and fill out.

    • Love to see the emphasis on OL. It’s a numbers game: get in as many prospects as you can because there are 5 starters.

      This also makes me think some of the younger guys on the depth chart might be leaving.

      • I don’t necessarily think it means anybody is leaving. The previous staff was planning on bringing in 5 freshmen so it’s not like they’re taking extra lineman at this point.

          • That’s too bad. Would be really nice to have him on campus to see what he’s got and how he fits in and if they’re comfortable with him starting. If not they could address it in the portal if they’re not comfortable with what they’ve got.

  43. Men’s basketball enters tonight’s game at legendary Gill as 18.5 pt underdogs. If this was a road game I’d throw life savings at it but being at home…not so fast. We’ll still get the L but think we can cover at home.

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      He has to show a lot more power to get to #1, like 20+ home runs with no drop in average. He doesn’t play a premium position so he needs to be elite at all around hitting.

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    Did Oregon really decriminalize cocaine? I missed that. Can ya’ll fill me in? Like the logic/reality of that decision not political ranting…

    • Select excerpts From a WSJ interview/podcast in Eugene, Ore:

      “When Measure 110 appeared on the ballot, it gave Oregon voters the chance to make the state another first, the first to decriminalize hard drugs. When we say drugs are decriminalized, what exactly does that mean?

      Zusha Elinson: That means that if you are in Portland, Oregon, you could go out in the street and do a line of cocaine and you cannot be arrested and brought to jail. What they can do is give you a citation, but essentially drug possession, possessing small amounts of drugs and even using small amounts of drugs is no longer a crime.

      …the argument for decriminalizing has been the same for a long time, which is that advocates say that we rely too much on the criminal justice system to deal with what they view as a public health issue, addiction. So their idea was we’re going to take a public health approach to this, provide people with services, and those people will get services instead of going into the criminal justice system, either into jail, prison, or probation.

      Jessica Mendoza: Measure 110 passed with nearly 60% of the vote. The law changed the way law enforcement interacts with drug users in Oregon. Instead of arresting people who use drugs, officers are now supposed to point them toward treatment.

      ….what the framers of this law said, they said, police, what you can do is hand out these citations to people using drugs or possessing drugs in the street. And the idea behind these citations was they carry a $100 fine. But if the person wants to get out of that fine and not pay it, all they have to do is call an 800 number, a helpline, that will assess them, give them an assessment, and then point them towards services that they might need. And I think the people who wrote the law hope that these citations would be a little bit of an incentive for people addicted to drugs to seek out services.

      …I think it’s a really fascinating story because in some ways Oregon was bold and brave and went out in front of everyone and said, “We’re going to try out this approach that hasn’t been tried in the US.” That’s fascinating that a state would do that. At the same time, you’ve seen places like Washington say, “No, we’re not going to decriminalize drugs either.” I think especially with the way the fentanyl epidemic has ravaged our country, it’s going to make people think twice about passing this type of law.”

      https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journal/oregonians-decriminalized-hard-drugs-now-many-regret-it/978cadff-a484-4baf-b43a-cec440418a25#:~:text=Public%20drug%20use%20has%20skyrocketed,effectively%20made%20all%20drugs%20legal.

      • They looked at Portugal and thought it would be a great idea.

        Problem is Portugal actually has a viable culture that discourages abuse, and Oregon doesn’t.

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          Portugal shifted it to looking at it as a medical problem, and that being the proper intervention, as opposed to a criminal problem. It has less to do with cultural norms, and more about differences in healthcare systems.

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            This is a fair point.

            “Americans” don’t really care about Americans.

            They disrespect the flag and everyone who died for it by flying it at a game, they thank you for your service, and they tell you all to fuck off, if you’re an American.

            MAGA can lick my asshole after beany bean chili night… and I won’t even get into their Nazi propaganda lip-synchs.

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            Because they wanted to see how the shift in interventions would work out. The problem is 49 states look at it differently, and it will require a change at the federal level. Also, our healthcare system sucks and it turns out that can’t be relied on as part of the solution.

            The timing with the fentanyl crisis was also bad.

          • Neither jailing or whatever OR is doing are solutions. It’s just a matter of hiding the problem or keeping it plain sight. Unfortunately, hiding it helps the economy. Revealing it doesn’t.

            Drug abuse is a mental health issue like so many other things. Availability of drugs is the determining factor between drug addiction and some other form of addiction.

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            The left wanted it the right did not, like anyone would honestly think. Now they want to repeal it but with the amount of activist state judges the druggie apologists will probably sue to block it and win.

          • They won’t sue legislators they will sue to block anything that changes the law as it is was originally written. One of the original advocates said as much when possible changes to the law were being talked about as early as October.

          • They can try to challenge it in court after it’s passed, but the law allows for legislators to change ballot measures after the fact, so good luck to them.

          • On Tuesday legislators said they were going to introduce a bill to make changes to it.

            Since it’s a Libertarian policy, I’m waiting to see some support of measure 110 from them, because so far I’ve seen zero.

          • Does it though? It seems like the “do all the drugs you want” aligns, but tax payer dollars used for free detox treatment doesn’t.

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            It’a pretty sweet. I can go to safeway in my semi-suburban Portland area neighborhood and most days see a bunch of junkies shooting up or piles of discarded needles in plain sight.
            The store was getting ripped up left and right too, so now it’a guarded like fort knox and has multiple layers of barriers to get in or out of the store(stuff we never had until the past couple few years)
            The money that was supposed to be saved on law enforecement is supposedly going towards treatment. But the majority of street junkies dont want to seek out treatment.

            Oh…and since Oregon loosened up their laws, junkies from all over the west coast have flocked here. It’s easier to be a junkie when youre not beeing harrassed by law enforcement, so Oregon gets an influx of junkies and their burned out motorhomes.

            I’m a lefty or whatever people want to call me, but I voted no.

          • I had 2 brothers who battled addicition when they were younger. One was able to recover but the other has permanent brain damage from crystal meth and LSD use primarily. He’ll never function like normal again.
            It’s pretty insane that we tolerate some of these substances in our communities and watch people waste away.
            It’s a mental health problem(addiction), but like Beav in OH said above, the availability and tolerance of the hardcore substances like meth/fentynal is really what causes the addicts to spiral.

          • Treatment and counseling are definitely necessary. The stupid part about the new law is making the treatment optional. They need a combination of incarceration and mandatory treatment. But in order for that to be effective at this point you also need to increase the number of police on the street by 5-10x.

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            Whatever.
            It’s like people don’t know what living in a city is like, especially when human support services are, “Pull yourself up by the bootstraps, Munchausen.”

            If Portland wasn’t burned to the ground, it would be overrun by immigrant junkies with used needles that will certainly give abortions to all non-gay fetuses.

            The ebbs and flows of drug availability and use have nothing to do with the prosecution of the end user.

            It never did.

            It never will.

            If you want to have a frank discussion about gun and human trafficking, then you don’t want to talk about some of the more lenient tax policies we’ve been experiencing for the last 40 years.

            But that’s just you.

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            Mostly to stop the cops from shooting users, for whatever reason they were doing so at such a ridiculous rate.

            It was obvious the law had flaws, but the cops were just a bigger flaw. And this law dialed them back.

            If only the death toll at the hands of cops is concerned, it is a huge success.

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            Granted, Oregon is really low to start with, compared to places like Indiana or Ohio. And the rate ebbs and flows with the crime rate.

            And I would advocate more for the disabled in these instances, since cops seem unable to de-escalate those encounters with more frequency. But they should really be finding the sources of supply, not bothering with dealing with these individuals.

            The primary source of failure was obvious when the law was passed–there isn’t enough funding for support services to handle the process.

            People want to whine about the problems in society, but they don’t want to pay for some pretty easy solutions that would make life better.

  45. Beaver baseball excerpts:

    “We expect nothing but bringing a national championship home this year,” sophomore infielder Mason Guerra said.

    Some years, that goal seems more realistic than others, and this appears to be one of those years. The Beavers have star power, a loaded lineup, a deep pitching staff, endless experience, a touted freshman class, key transfer additions and a hunger to return to Omaha for the first time since 2018, when Oregon State won its last national championship.

    Hitting coach Ryan Gipson says the Beavers have the potential to be the best offense in the history of the storied program, and Guerra and Turley are predicting that the team will break the home run record again.”

    No real discussion RE coaching, Canham’s development or lack thereof(?), and of staff…

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/01/oregon-state-baseball-chasing-a-national-championship-in-final-year-of-pac-12-theres-a-chip-on-our-shoulder.html

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      Ya they’re definitely going to be one of the tougher opponents on the schedule as expected but these are big time gets that are plug and play. It would be good for the Beavs if Boise had a good season and we beat them. Got to come in and beat Boise the first year to control the narrative that we’re still a P5 team.

  46. We appesr to have a new special teams quality control coach.
    At least I think he’s new.

    Michael Frisina
    Twitter.com/michael_frisina

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    MBB hanging in there with Arizona, only down 44-36 at halftime. I haven’t been paying too close attention, but the Beavs haven’t gone on their signature scoring drought yet, so they’re either saving it for the second half or bucking the trend tonight.

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    Travel for the win!!!

    Stinkle time tried to give it away up 9, but Pope with the game winner at the buzzer to beat UA.

    Stinkle back in good graces despite losing by 60
    To CU and Utah. All is forgiven.

    I was wrong. No dry January

    Anyone seeing a pattern?

  49. Someone on ab was going to place a bet that the beavs wouldn’t lose to Arizona by 18 as the betting sites predicted – thought they’d lose but not by 18 and would bet accordingly. Curious to know if he/it/whatever followed through. If so, let us know how it turned out.

  50. Maybe MBB can use this win as a springboard. Confidence is such a huge factor in basketball and from seeing the trend in scoring differential, it seems like theirs has been drained by getting blown out in conference play.

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    In 2000 I was playing in the Rec center with a student ticket in my pocket for the AZ game. I was on a bit of a heater, and decided to keep playing instead of going to the game and watching another beatdown. When I got to my apartment, I turned on Sportcenter just as they were replaying the Deaundra Tanner buzzer beater. I was practically across the street when it happened.

    I tuned the TV off at halftime last night and went to bed. Laid there for about 15 minutes and remembered that game 23 years ago…decided to go back downstairs just to make sure Beavers were actually headed towards their expected second half collapse.

    Was happy with my decision.

    • i was in the student section for the Dino Tanner buzzer beater. Nearly got crushed by the fans running over each other to get to the court.
      Was also in the stands a year or 2 before that where we had #1 Arizona on the ropes, but our center (forgetting his name, Todd something) missed both free throws to ice it and Miles Simon drove the length of the court and finger rolled in the game winner at the buzzer off the rebound. That was such a bummer, Beavs had that one in the bag.

      • Speaking of getting crushed in a crowd. The 1998 CW overtime field rush was one of the scariest things I’ve ever been a part of. I can easily see how people get trampled to death in crowds like that. I could barely keep my feet underneath me, I was basically getting rag-dolled for a few minutes.

        • was at that game too. was a nice time to be a student, several fun upsets

          That Civil War game was dangerous. I saw people in the student section finish a beer bottles and then just check the empty glass bottle up into the crowd ahead of them. could have easily hit someone in the head with that.
          I was also at the game (can’t remember which one it was now?) where the goal posts got knocked down and one of the uprights hit a girl in the head down on the turf. I think that one resulted in a pretty serious injury. It got wild at times.

          • Since we’re waxing nostalgic on past Beaver great events, I’ll give you mine. We had been ranked fairly high all season (’80-’81) and were #1 in the polls going into the ASU game. I had been able to get tickets (after camping out all night) and was sitting with the rest of guys in some fairly decent good seats in Gill. For whatever reason, the team came out flat and was getting an ass beating by ASU early on and the crowd was having none of it. I couldn’t see what happened, but somebody further down in front threw something onto the court, disrupting play. Ralph stopped the game and grabbed a floor mic, looked up into the stands and pointed to some kid a few rows away that was winding up to toss something out and said, “I’ll have you, Junior” – I had no doubt in my mind that Ralph would’ve jumped into the stands and grab who ever it was.

            We may have had an awful football team (attended every home game for five years), but I was there for some legendary
            basketball. Ralph Miller was a hell of a coach.

          • Here’s another you guys might find humorous. Being in a fraternity, it was always a big deal to ‘rush’ an athlete. One year we were lucky and got two, one guy was a football player from Sedro Woolley, WA and the other was a basketball player from Marysville, CA. The basketball player was a 7 footer, believe it or not, and the problem arose of there were no beds long enough to accommodate him in the house, so we had to purchase a longer bed for him. It worked out, but I think he was there for just a year.

            The basketball player would tell us about practice with Ralph Miller. Generally, it consisted with Ralph wearing a suit, sitting in a folding chair, with a lit ‘More’ cigarette, observing from center court, while the team went through their basics: lay-ups, passing, etc. The one thing that Ralph abhorred was the bounce-pass; there was hell to pay if you ever made one – if you were going to pass the ball, it better not ever touch the floor. If you look back at videos of those old games, you’ll never see a bounce-pass.

            One day at practice, the basketball player was doing a one-on-one with one of the starters and blocked a shot. Ralph looked up at him from the chair and said “good job, monster.” That’s about as good as you ever got in the way of compliments, but Ralph was a great coach and the players would play for him – he got the best out of them.

          • Payton respected him…but he did unnecessary bounce passes in NBA…

            Maybe we should send Tinkle some “More” cigarettes …a many layered message …

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            I might pay to see Big Tinks in a plaid sports coat with a lit More 100 Menthol in his mouth on “Ralph Miller Tribute” night.

  52. Beavs baseball is officially Independent for 2025. I believe today was the final date to solidify any sports to be part of the WCC. Gotta be a good indicator that we’ve got some semblance of a tough schedule…if there wasn’t much there I don’t know if you could risk assuming games will materialize vs taking a more guaranteed schedule in WCC regardless of the caliber of teams.

  53. Last night was the game Oregon State basketball fans have been waiting for the last 3 years. The big question is can they build off this? There is not a lot of hope given Tinkles absolutely abysmal road record the last 3 years. But it’s clear this team has the pieces to be a winning basketball team. It all depends on if Rataj, Bilodeau and Akanno can play like they do at home on the road. If they win on Saturday, they should be carrying some real momentum into next week. If they lose. Well, they might as well pack it in for the season. But they looked fantastic in the second half. 7 of their 9 losses are Q1 or Q2. And many of them are road or neutral site games. Can they find a way to win consistently in conference AND on the road? We’ll see I suppose. ASU is a winnable game though. Especially at home.

    • Per Bill Oram:
      In his ninth year at the helm, Tinkle has won a higher percentage of his games than any OSU coach since Jim Anderson and more games total than anyone since Ralph Miller.

      Put that in your pipe, WCC………..lol

      • “and more games total than anyone since Ralph Miller”

        Don’t blow smoke up my ass, Bill. He’s been here 9 fucking years. Longer than any of the previous failed experiments.

      • Tinkle has won a higher percentage of his games than any OSU coach since Jim Anderson

        Ummm… no. This factoid is true, if we replace Jim Anderson with Craig Robinson.
        Does this Bill Oram fellow know how to find and read numbers? Tinkle blew past Jim’s win% and is headed for John’s win%.

        Fun fact:
        Jim Anderson and Jay John both coached for 169 games. 169 is two more games than Wayne Tinkle has losses at OSU.

      • Good Lord, is Tinks some kind of Voo-Doo Oracle who has cast a spell over the Oregon media? What a bunch of slanted bullshit. Tinkle is responsible for two of the worst seasons in Beav hoops history. Going for an elite eight team to a 3-28 record should say enough about his coaching and recruiting abilities. Is there any other Power 5 coach out there who would still have a job with this record? He has two seasons with a combined 8-55 record, think about that!

    • Sorry Bro but you are delusional if you actually think anything good comes from that game. It is a definite outlier and the trend is not good. Tinkle destroys the fundamentals of any talented players and messes up the rest mentally because he doesn’t have a clue how to put guys in good situations.
      I like seeing the big win and the upset victories but that is kind of the point. Tinkle will never be leading the pac and the hunted, his teams are always in the underdog role trying to pull off the upset.
      Tinkle hasn’t even sniffed a PAC12 championship except for the Elite 8 run. He has the 3 worst season records in school history. He has an extension that was foolhardy by Barnes and handcuffs any effort to move on from him. This is why OSU basketball has been reduced to: hoping for the big upset once in a while and watching dreadful basketball the other 90% of the time.
      I’ll pass on any talk of Tinkle being carved next to Ralph and Slats on the OSU Mount Rushmore of great coaches. Don’t even float it. He is a disaster and has reduced OSU to a shadow of what it once was.

      • Same here, Tinks isn’t fit to carry Ralph’s cigarette smellin’ jock.
        From the statistics can be misleading file:
        –He has the 3 worst season records in school history.
        –Tinkle has won a higher percentage of his games than any OSU coach since Jim Anderson and more games total than anyone since Ralph Miller.
        hmmm

  54. Someone else said it, but it seems like MBB’s success depends entirely on if the 3’s they chuck up go in or not. Last night’s 3% was pretty dang good.

  55. It’s really the role players that make or break the games for the men. Hot three point shooting can get them by vs higher level teams.

    If you look at the splits for home/away for everyone but Pope and Bilodeau, there’s a dramatic dropoff in points and efficiency.

  56. At the half, Hunter doing her Paurova act, hasn’t missed yet. Leads good gals with 12 pts.
    32-30 Beavs.
    Beers, again, misses 2 FT’s, the only FT’s so far tonight.

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        I doubt he’s the one responsible for some of its design.

        Ftr, don’t put crown molding on cabinets that aren’t full uppers. Don’t put horizontal tile on a vertical axis in wet areas… because it’s different.

        And try to keep roof cuts to a minimum.

        Also, if you’re going to take pics of the house for promos, you probably don’t want to include a shoe tree and a rack of hangers. One of the bedrooms looks like there should be a closet where there isn’t one.

        Also, are those uneven bars in the backyard?

        • Who knew Jack was not just a philosopher but also an architect, interior designer, cabinet maker, floor tile man, and realtor?
          Very informative post Jack. I might guess you just have a lot of opinions to share but on these you seem to have a more specific interest.

          FYI real estate listings can come in all shapes and sizes depending on your market. Shoe racks, Knick knacks, messy bedrooms, dishes in the sink, toiletries all over the bathroom can be the norm the norm in some markets.

          • FYI… never actually did realty.
            But turnkey design-builds are a thing, believe it or not.

            The landscape design can’t really be criticized too much. People rarely spend what they should on utility (slope remediation) and design function. And HOA’s or local governments are loathe to either spend the money on it or force developers to do so.

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    Not to throw cold water on MBB’s big win against AZ, but I don’t think the Pac 12 is very good this year in hoops and think AZ is over rated. Still a good win for the guys.

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    Yawn. No more MBB talk for me. It’s always the same like Groundhog Day every season and nothing will change with Tinkle.
    I’m looking forward to baseball season, not going to waste anymore energy on Big Tinks and his merry band of young players…

  59. Jeremiah Ioane commitment post train rolls on…he may be the most committed Beav ever.

    Pretty amazing that his brother was top 20 in Nevada in sacks as a freshman defensive lineman, too.

  60. Beavs get a late commitment for 202r with edge/TE Kai Richardson. Don’t know much about him aside he’s from WA and I suspect has ties to Tracy Ford. Saw a post of his from July 2023 where he was ranked a 2* TE. I assume he’s gotta be a PWO with how our current scholarship numbers are.

        • I think the announcers said they swept the Washington schools in February 2021. Horrendous foul shooting or they would be winning by 25. I think about 20 for 40 at the line. Up 14 with about 90 seconds left, but Tinks took Pope out for some reason and they are struggling to get the ball inbounds.

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            East explanation when you understand Tinkles approach. Now that Pope is the undisputed best player on the team, Tinkle will begin messing with his mind and “toughen” him up mentally by benching him periodically for no apparent reason. Thus Pope is a cinch to depart in the off-season and Tinkle gets to start over with a new nucleus and new guards. Built in excuses and textbook strategy for journalists to buy into and write about Tinkle as a program builder.

  61. Hopefully Iaone’s brother continues to grow quite a bit. He looks like a beast but is only 5’10 240 as a DL. If he can get to the height of his brother the weight will come and hopefully we can see them playing together.

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    A big win is only as good as the next game. Beavs followed through with a nice win. Is this a turning point? History says no with the massive road woes.

    • Thats the key. ROAD WINS. UCLA and USC having down seasons to date. If there was ever a chance for OSU to end the road streak this is it. Need AT LEAST one win on the LA trip then I think things could start to get interesting going forward.

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      The Pac is extremely bipolar. Utah got crushed in Seattle tonight. Buffs lost in Pullman. Arizona won in Eugene. 6 teams are within one game of 1st place.

  63. Joel Valsez dropped another YouTube video on throwing session. There’s a new addition to the WR room. Jhae Drummer has been moved from DB to WR. Perhaps one to keep an eye on for spring portal? If they’re trying a new role, doesn’t catch on, perhaps he decides to xfer out.

      • Lol. Valdez was a xfer last year from Linfield where he put up some awesome numbers but was injured for most this season. Still going thru PT on his knee injury actually. I wasn’t very familiar with Drummer either. RS-FR from state of alabama i believe.

          • I would hope so. Didn’t see Clemons but it was hard for me to recognize a lot of them and their nicknames. Didn’t realize Valdez has 2 more years. He looks like he works really hard so hopefully he can get healthy and earn some playing time.

          • That’s no reason in a wide open receiver room he can’t show he’s a D1 athlete and earn playing time. So was Mike Hass. I’m not saying he’s Mike but I could see him as being a reliable target as a role player. Probably blocks extra hard. Noga was a walk on too until he earned a scholly. He’s looked good in his limited opportunities.

  64. Seeing one NFL scout/talent guy thinking Gould could have one of the top 40 times in the draft. All I cam think about is how the fuck could we not take better advantage of a guy who will likely post a top 40 time? Same with Bolden. Rarely saw any crossing routes, more motion or fly sweeps, etc. Criminal what Lindgren did with that group.

  65. Beav gals up by 17 at the half. How ’bout points off of TO’s………..8-0 Beavs! a seldom seen stat for these gals!
    Rees leads Beavs vs her old school with 12 pts in 15 minutes.

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    Just got home…good to see we get to watch tay tay at the Superbowl, yuck. As a raider fan to have kc at allegiant is gross

  67. There’s a video floating around X of Gould making some nice plays at some kind of nfl draft thing. It would be great if he had success but be a kind of wtf about him not being more productive here. If he’s so fast how come they could never get him deep over the top of the defense? Especially with Martinez and the running game and them bringing safeties into the box.

      • Speed isn’t everything for a WR. There are plenty of WR’s with good 40 times out there, even at the FCS level. You see lots of obscure names pop up at the NFL Combine every year with good measurements that might get drafted in the late rounds, but never make it.

        • There’s too many variables to judge on why he didn’t break out. Large part is the play calling and play design. Looking at pre draft one on one videos is not a good comparison to actual play.

          • Just have to hope he is used strategically and has success at next level if ge gets a deal. That’s the best outcome for him and the Beavers..

  68. FWIW, ESPN (I know…) WBB power rankings has OSU WBB debuting at #14, and identifies them as the “Team if the Week.”

    They’re at UO next Sunday….

  69. If the women’s teams keeps it up, they could lock up a top 16 seed. Beavs are hosting the Portland site this year. Half of the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 will be played there. Possible the Beavs don’t leave the state if they get on that side of the bracket. Big home court advantage.

  70. The ESPN comment got me to thinking about the PTN and its future and the whole streaming landscape of the future.

    The only thing that disturbed me with the Apple deal was the comment by the Apple exec (maybe even Cook himself?) about them owning the product, once produced and distributed. That just never sounded kosher.

    I briefly wondered about what other streaming entities were out there, and I was frustrated to think ESPN or Amazon might be the only alternatives. Then I decided I just wanted to check baseball news and see when (2/16) our first game was. No surprise… it’s in Surprise. But it’s available on a site we’re all familiar with–FloSports.

    What if Pac 12 Network production was available on FloSports?

    It could start as just third-tier rights, meaning it would be all the Olympic sports that fit in with their method–vertical sports access, not regional sports access. And I know the Big 12 has no third-tier deal, which is why some of the 10 will need to find the same kind of deals on their own. Many teams in that conference and others already have some deals in place with them, and they’ve been making bigger investments in college sports in recent years.

    As linear dies, it would become home to all sports streaming, and it could just be a standalone app.

    Partnering with a platform that still has a lot of room to grow but is highly experienced in the field could make the sum worth more than the parts.

        • Sort of. There are plenty of coaches that will explicitly say “we want to run x, y, and z.” JS/BL did when they came in and WT is infamously married to his style.

          There are pluses and minuses to both approaches, but especially when you’re rebuilding a roster, you need to be flexible.

    • Thanks!

      I like that Bray gets the call on whether or not to go for it on 4th downs…did Smith defer to Lindgren, or did Smith let lindgren call it?

    • I like the approach of tailoring the offense to the talent available especially in the first couple of years when you don’t necessarily have your recruits yet. Also the part of playing a receiver or TE based on talent and getting the RB the ball on the run game. It’s cool to hear he was very involved in the game planning of the offense.

      • Yes, getting the ball in space to the RBs other than a hand-off would be nice. Hopefully that’s one area that we can improve on with a better ball from the QB and better hands by the RB. Definitely was a trouble area last season for sure. We weren’t super accurate on the swings and screens and when we did have a good toss we dropped them. Getting Jam back will help and perhaps Hankerson(?), xfer from Colorado, has better utility in that regard.

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          Agreed.

          “We might have to throw it 50 times. We
          Might not. We will take what the defense gives us and go from there”

          Paraphrasing obviously. But I didn’t like that comment. If you HAD to throw it 50 times in a non run and shoot offense it’s probably because you fell so far behind you had to completely abandon the run.

          What ever offense they utilize it SHOULD be run first based.

        • Coach speak & short summary aside, I feel like he has an idea of what he would like to do, but has not fully explored his roster yet on the field.

          That won’t be until later.

          Re: running game. Without reading too deeply, he seems aware of where the offensive strengths of the roster are:

          “…We’re going to pull some things maybe look the same in the run game…”

          “…Do I want to throw the ball? Yes, I do. But I’m not going to be silly about it. We’re going to be efficient and smart and try to keep things as simple for our guys as possible. And I think if we can keep things simple for our players, that gives you the ability to reduce turnovers. If we can be multiple and create issues for the defense, while still making our process simple, then we can create explosive plays…”

          “…It could be spread triple option, like you’ve seen Chip Kelly do. It could be passes with run options…”

          “…Obviously we know what he’s good at, and we’ve got to develop some other areas to get him the football. I’m really excited about Damien…”

          “… I believe in getting the running back out when you can get them out of protection. I believe in free releasing the running back, getting them the ball. Maybe it’s first in a progression, whereas if they’re blocking or involved in the protection they might be fifth in the progression. In the screen game, I think that’s another way that we can get them the ball some. I am all for it…”

          • What if… stay with me here… we have two RBs who can do various things like blocking or catching the ball in space?

            Have we ever seen anything like that on the west coast?

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      IDK, he could’ve easily gone somewhere else this year even for more $. I’d hate for him to go but I think from his perspective, if he wants to cash out and perhaps get a better chance to thrive in an actual offensive system, he should xfer. Although, if Akano isn’t hogging the ball, Pope could toss up as many shots as he wants to since we have no actual plays to call. Watching a WT offensive scheme is just ever so slightly more put together than pick-up games we used to play as kids with a bunch of random bodies on the court.

      • I guess I don’t understand the role assistant coaches play. Does Tinkle keep his because they don’t challenge him? They all should know basketball well enough to formulate plays. Canzano interview with Pope (before the Arizona State game): What were you thinking in those late seconds? Pope, “I hoped he wouldn’t call a time-out.” Hilarious! Maybe, maybe, if the team starts to do well, Tinkle will feel he can retire on a good note. If the team continues to continue to do well, I hope Barnes isn’t inspired to extend his contract.

        • You’d hope. Tinkle has always been acutely aware of his detractors (maybe he reads AB!) Part of me thinks the reason he’s continuing on here is he wants to be vindicated that his approach works. After last week, the temptation will be there to say “we can beat anyone in this league when we execute how we want to.”

          In a loooooooong shot scenario where resumes matter, one silver lining is we escaped the non-con schedule with no Q4 losses.

  71. Sounds like Gundy sees the QB race as McCoy vs BG, with Johnson being a less developed wild card that has “leadership potential.”

  72. “14. New Orleans Saints: OL Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State

    There used to be fewer higher priorities in the Big Easy than O-line, especially the interior. Massive Fuaga (6-6, 334) could bolster the inside blocking immediately and perhaps shift out to his more familiar right tackle post over time.”

    Second OL in this mock…

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2024/01/29/nfl-mock-draft-2024-caleb-williams-jayden-daniels-quarterbacks/72398714007/

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    Another week, another story about an NCAA football program(Tennessee) being “investigated” for alleged NIL violations and committing major recruiting violations.
    And nothing will come of it. This story could be written about any blue blood team. The NCAA has already shown they will do nothing to offenders, and the teams will keep breaking the rules. And also, nobody knows what the rules are.

    https://247sports.com/Article/tennessee-under-ncaa-investigation-for-nil-violations-involving-nico-iamaleava-per-reports-226382065/

    • Yeah the NCAA is a joke! A few years ago Mizzou self reported to the NCAA about tutors doing homework and taking tests for a few football players. Mizzou got the book thrown at them with loss of some scholarships and not being bowl eligible. North Carlolina’s mens basketball was caught doing the same thing. They denied it multiple times until evidence came out proving that it did happen. What punishment did Roy Williams Tar Heels get? Loss of scholarships? Nope! Not eligible for the tourney? Nope! The proverbial slap on the wrist!

  74. Couple baseball press conferences,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYd8C8zQQBc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtzZPOj5UwI

    Nothing too exciting. Laif Palmer is out for a while which is a bummer as he was hyped a bit. Kmatz seems to be on track to start the year.

    Both coaches and players said Segura could be an impact freshman pitcher. All are confident in the offense. Lots of power but they’ll need to get on base to make those really hurt the other teams. Pitching seems like they have a lot of talent, and a lot of options. But no lights out Friday night guy.

    • I think May might have the best “stuff” of the potential 3-4 starters but has had control issues. I think Jimenez showed last year he could have the true Friday Ace that we’ve typically had up until last year. Sellars was so frustrating last year. Had like 3 really amazing starts but then the rest of the year was lit of the game after the 3rd. Really need our starters to give those quality starts again. Perhaps the days of a starter going 7+ innings are no longer the norm but we need to have our starters go longer than 3 or 4 innings…which most of them struggled to do last year.

  75. Interesting development on the Portland Diamond Project. Appears they may have some agreement to purchase RedTail golf course and its property if they do get selected as an expansion/destination city. Not that many of the proposed locations were amazing to get to but dam, that I-5/217 interchange area was awful to navigate when I lived there 13 years ago. RedTail was a fun course but so fucking busy. It’d take 5-6 hours to play a round of golf there.

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      it isn’t just that if a team moved to Portland they would be Oakland A’s level bad, or that a stadium would require a roof, or that the Mariners could probably quash the idea like a bug if it ever came close to reality – but I don’t understand the concept of local people trying to find a place to build a stadium without a team on the hook.
      I have to think those who have donated tens of thousands of dollars on this deal have some other way of making it “pay off” for them – both on the long term and the short term – real estate pump and dump I’m guessing. it just seems pointless. They’d be better off focusing their time on making sure the Hillsboro Hops don’t leave.
      https://ballparkdigest.com/2023/10/27/deadline-for-new-hillsboro-hops-ballpark-financing-pushed-to-next-march/

  76. Question for those of you that follow Beaver baseball how the pitching is looking for this year? I know that they don’t have many lefties which is unfortunate but curious to how it stacks up. The lineup is supposed to be really good so I’m hoping they’ll have the pitching to back it up.

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    There’s been a lot written lately about OSU and WSU maintaining support for their athletics programs at a “P5/P4” level. It got me curious how we compare to the Mountain West.

    Generally speaking:

    The Mountain West ranges between $40M to about $65M per year of athletic expenditures depending on the school. SJSU being an outlier at about $25M or so.
    OSU and WSU are at about $85M per year. OSU just above that number and WSU just below.

    What I found most surprising was the gap between the Pac 2 and the other 10

    The schools going to the Big 12 are in the $120M range (Outlier CU at around $95M)
    The schools going to the BIG are in the $145M range (Exception UCLA at around $130M, USC doesn’t report but I’d guess its on the high end)

    Pac 2 provides just a little over half the funding Oregon and Washington provide. I looked at this about a decade ago and it was much close, the gap is widening by leaps and bounds.

    The numbers make it pretty clear who and why each school ended up where. If OSU and WSU want to get back into a P4 conference it feels like they need to increase athletic expenditures to the $110-$120M range.

    https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/pac-12

    • Just for further info, I looked at the big 12, they range from $100M to $110M per school. (Outlier is K-state in the $90M range). Even Iowa State is over $100M. I’d think the dollars there would go farther than they would in Corvallis as well.

      The schools going to the SEC, Texas and OU in the $200M range

      • Sounds unsustainable and should continue divorcing sports from university missions. Universities will provide the infrastructure and “manage” the labor pool of another pro league….the American viewer appetite for football is great, but that should decrease over time with the bogus playoffs, market saturation, and changing viewing preferences of up and coming audiences?

      • Mark, you able to employ your gap-cancellation defense to make-up for the difference in expenditures? Need to get you involved somehow….keep that channel of forward thinking coming!!!!

  78. OSU commit QB Kallen Gutridge 5A offensive player of the year, #1 5A QB…

    https://www.oregonlive.com/highschoolsports/2024/02/all-state-football-2023-oregons-top-5a-stars.html

    “The 6-foot-3, 180-pound quarterback completed 208-of-321 passing attempts for 3,482 yards and 53 touchdowns while throwing just nine interceptions. In three seasons for Wilsonville, Gutridge posted a 58.4% completion percentage while passing for over 5,500 yards and 84 touchdowns with just 17 interceptions thrown. He also rushed for an additional 1,246 yards and 15 touchdowns on the ground.

    In his senior season, he led Wilsonville to a 12-1 overall record and a 5A state championship defeating Mountain View 33-31 in the state championship game.”

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    Beavs have a crystal ball to land 4-star ATH who is the top recruit in Oregon. Has offers from Georgia, Tennessee, Nike, and others.

    It’s super early and we’ll probably lose him, but the TB era feels like an alternate reality so far in recruiting.

  80. Ibekwe is just brutal sometimes. Bricks two free throws and then missed a point-blank shot. Gave UCLA a ton of momentum, Bruins up 8 with about 10 minutes left. They’re swarming Pope, someone needs to step up.

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      He’s brutal most of the time. He’s a liability and Wayne refuses to see it. He’s a disaster in pick and roll defense and has such a low motor. He’s always so passive. There was one play where a guard lost the ball and the ball was at his feet and if he dived for it, it could save the possession but instead he just gave a passive reach and UCLA got the ball. If you’re gonna win a game on the road in a toss up game, you need guys who want it and will fight for it and he isn’t that guy. I’d much rather see Ndong play and experience growing pains than seeing them trot out Ibekwe in crunch time when we know what player he is

      • Ibekwe missed another front end of a 1 and-1 and then somehow missed a tip right at the rim. Beavs down 6 with 50 seconds left. UCLA was there for the taking in both games.

        • Ibekwe finished with 0 points and 3 rebounds. Wayne’s inability to find a starting caliber C has been the difference in at least 3 of their losses in conference play. When Pope is trapped like he is tonight, having a big man that can’t finish in the paint or make a half decent pass is just handcuffing your team.

          • Well, it’s a road game. WT has won like 20 of them in 10 years. Great home stand but people need to come back down to earth and realize that WT usually grabs 1 win each year that are improbable. Can’t win with 6 assists. That’s awful. Shot 57% from the stripe.

  81. When Wayne Tinkle has a successful weekend like last week it is viewed as a new course and good fortune just around the corner by novice observers, or those too hopeful to reflect upon his tenure honestly.

    Tinkle success must never be confused with building a program into a long term contender because he simply isn’t a good tactician nor is he program builder.

    His successful stretches/weekends/seasons must always be viewed no differently than the following:
    -Even a Blind squirrel can find a nut
    -A broken clock is right twice a day

    And explained by the same factors:
    -his own players overcome his weaknesses periodically
    -opponents overlook the Beavs as an easy win
    -home court advantage at Gill is worth more than we realize
    -PAC12 is not the basketball conference it used to be

    Tinkle may be a nice guy but he is a fraud as a D1/P5 coach. No way he should still be coaching at OSU, and anyone that still believes he can build a winner is being played for a fool.

    • See last week’s article: “Is Oregon State not the worst team in the conference anymore???”

      I think he’s underrated as a recruiter, but terrible as a tactician. That would explain his relative success at Montana and creates a good analogy of a FCS football coach that wins with superior talent at lower levels, but isn’t able to make the jump to the next level.

    • I get it’s social media, but Dam, there were some awful takes happening after those 2 wins. “If the Beavs win out, would that get them in the tournament”? WHAT?!! Win out?!! I want what that person was on. Lol.

      • Especially with relegation to a lesser conference, any good or even decent player will enter the portal. I think some will feel disappointed for having to do so. Jordan Pope will be able to carry his POW, conference and national with him wherever he goes.

    • “Yawn. No more MBB talk for me. It’s always the same like Groundhog Day every season and nothing will change with Tinkle.
      I’m looking forward to baseball season, not going to waste anymore energy on Big Tinks and his merry band of young players…”

    • Even the top teams in the PAC have been terrible on the road. Let’s face it, anybody playing at home can beat anybody. It’s just bad basketball and the 2-3 teams invited to March madness will flame out early

    • Thankful to know that the wolves have eliminated the foxes and are now guarding the henhouse for the sake of everyone’s sports enjoyment.

      Just released by the advisory committee: “We advise all conferences, athletes, school presidents, administrators, lawyers and government officials to back off of all current and future litigation or we will take matters into our own hands by ending our highly valued affiliation with the NCAA. Our goal is to simply coexist peacefully and make sure that SEC and Big10 interests are at the forefront of any and all decisions in terms of markets share, financial deals, school publicity and player promotion. There will not be anymore questions regarding SEC or Big10 schools “cheating” or “buying” players. Any comments to that effect in the media will be met with immediate action by our publicity arm at ESPN. You will be ridiculed over the nation’s podcast realm by 1000 different voices saying the exact same thing. Any concerns about this joint venture becoming some type of move towards an eventual separate college football product outside of NCAA boundaries, more of an NFL lite product can be dismissed as mere conspiracy theories. Loser conferences and loser programs only entertain such conspiracy theories to distract from their own failures and shortcomings as football losers unlike those of us in the mighty SEC and Big10. We are here to simply preserve all that is good about college football and to avoid any disruptions from well meaning but uninformed lawyers and government officials poking into our storied sport. Any correspondence can be directed to our media offices at ESPN and FOX, they will be happy to set you straight on the current situation and how important SEC and Big10 are to all of college sports.”

  82. Last visit weekend before the late signing period.
    Beavs will have unsigned 2024 commit Eddie Freauff on campus for his official visit, and then several PWO guys will be visiting as well.
    There should be a few unofficial visitors from the 2025/2026 class too.

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    Yahoo sports has an article with a new perspective on the Fox guarding the henhouse SEC/Big10 advisory board.
    It goes something like this:
    They have to do something before the Supreme Court steps in and destroys all college athletics! The old booster rules of amateur athletics has gone by the wayside and NCAA hasn’t kept up with the times and doesn’t even punish cheaters with any consistency so this board will not replace the NCAA but is championing a proactive approach to the present conditions and seeks new solutions. It isn’t really about SEC/Big10 but somebody had to take the lead…

    My view is the whole thing is spin for a bunch of self serving administrators and universities seeking to corner the revenue into their limited chosen programs.
    It is a ruse and the super conference is within 1-2 years.

    Big12 commish Brett Yornak can’t be sleeping well after this and he needs to begin the process of either joining them or breaking it up. Big12 will be on the outside of the advisory board interests.
    I fully expect this will trigger several big swings by BY to expand and stabilize the Big12 as a national footprint partnership with most of the big time mens bball programs and a football conference of 30-40 schools becoming its own lower tier competitive brand and less “NFL-lite” than the SEC/Big10 will become.

    PAC2/OSU has its war chest, tv network and plenty of leverage to become a major factor in what is coming. Hopefully President Murthy was at Nvidia last week and actually was engaging in talks regarding tech, and bonafide funding for a Nvidia/OSU partnership.

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      What if OSU partnered with Nvidia and created an expansive top of the line Esports arena and complimented it with full streaming and production capabilities as a content filler through the PAC2 network and streaming rights, sold advertising, rights merchandise related to it as an OSU linked product?

      OSU could be at the front end of a new type of viewing demographic. I’d guess there are many times more
      Kids interested in video gaming tournaments than major college football.
      It would make sense that college football is shrinking as the boomer generation ages.
      Video games are the new national
      Pasttime and also a worldwide
      Market.

      • The CIC will have a “drone playground” in it.

        Reser could easily host drone races, with the concourses set up the way they are. For gamers, any number of set-ups could do for an arena setting. Major tournaments get ridiculous numbers approaching 100 million unique streamers.

        And we can start off with some JUCO players, while the first couple recruiting classes develop.
        https://esccl.com

  84. Fuaga has solidified his first round grade at the senior bowl. With a good workout at the combine, he could move into consideration for the 1st or 2nd tackle off the board. Best fit is for teams that want to run the ball.

  85. If Tinks is such a big man guru, why the hell does Ibekwe continue to get minutes? First three minutes, Ibekwe badly mistimes the center jump, barely reaches for a loose ball in the lane that USC gets, and then gets stuffed on a point-blank layup and the ball goes out of bounce off his body. Beavs already down 12-5, I’m thinking zero road wins. I have to laugh at all the stupid hype of the Arizona schools sweep.

  86. Beavs are down by 25 to USC in the second half. USC hasn’t beaten a high major opponent by more than 14 all season and had lost 11 of 14 and 6 in a row. This is the Wayne Tinkle special. Anywhere else and he wouldn’t be employed tomorrow morning

    • So 3 out of 4 road games are +25 pt losses in the last 3 weeks?
      Extensions are delusional and near criminal at this point. Tinkle is just stealing money from OSU. Such a poor product. Get out already. Need a big donor to just buy the guy out. Trying any number of high school coaches at a much lower salary would be better than why Tinkle is selling.

      • I was a little surprised to see The Oregonian reporting that Tinkle still has three years on his contract and if I was understanding correctly the buyout would be 8.7 million. I guess I was wishfully thinking that it was fewer years and money!

    • But but but they swept the Arizona schools last weekend?

      ASSU sucks balls and got blown out by Cal at home. Bobby Hurley is a little whiny bitch who’s gonna get ripped apart by the rest of the Big 12.

      Arizona? Average at best

      • We’ve lost all our road games by an avg of 16.5 pts a game heading into today’s match-up. Anyone expecting a different performance is delusional at this point.

  87. In the latest “news of the [sports media] world” segment, the WSJ has a story about Charter cable eclipsing Comcast as the leading cable TV provider. A few excerpts worthy of attention:

    “About 55 million US households still pay for traditional television, down from a peak of about 100 million a decade ago. Part of that decline was caused by the rise of web-based alternatives such as YouTube TV, FUBO TV and others, which have about 18 million subscribers combined.”

    Comcast lost “nearly 13% [of its subscribers] in the past year.” It is also “working to grow its Peacock streaming service, where it is moving more content” [like Big 10 football]. The recent NFL playoff game was seemingly a successful experiment, to wit: the addition 2.8 million Peacock subscribers “over a three day period made it the single biggest subscriber-acquisition moment.”

    That, of course, is the kicker, (and I don’t mean Sappington): “Sports had long remained the biggest–and one of the last–draws of traditional television. But many sporting events have moved exclusively to streaming in recent years.”

    • Unless I read that report wrong, it said baseball lost money. How does are baseball program lose money with the crowds they draw and deep runs into the playoffs?

  88. Daschel (not behind paywall, yet) discusses the NCAA Financial Report for OSU. The report can probably be found elsewhere too.
    A couple notes:
    football and men’s basketball were the only sports to produce a net profit. Football’s surplus was $16.51 million, while men’s basketball’s profit was $754,033. The sport with the largest deficit was women’s basketball at $3.18 million, followed by women’s rowing at $1.84 million and baseball at $1.82 million.
    -Ticket revenue for Baseball was No. 2 at $1.44 million, more than men’s and women’s basketball ($1.28 million) combined.
    -Sports camps generated $1.5 million for the school. The top producing sport was volleyball at $274,584, baseball was a close second at $268,691.

      • Grubb must have a really good agent. He squeezed UW last year for a raise when he was rumored as Sabans choice for OC. Then he delays for a few days before joining DeBoer at Bama this year and now he is floating rumors that he never sold his Seattle home and may jump to Seahawks. I’m sBama boosters are cutting checks right now to keep him. He needs to hit the jackpot now because Milroe throwing 50 passes per game will get him run out of Tuscaloosa

        • Bama doesn’t need him, there’s no shortage of guys who want to be the Bama OC and will do it just as well and for less money. Lot of former NFL OCs are looking for work right now

  89. Didn’t realize quite how big our WR 2024 signees will be this week. Durant is 6’2″ and Freauff is 6’4″.
    Freauff’s a bit of a mystery because he missed almost his entire senior year with an injury. And his older tape basically shows a guys who i just bigger and faster than the other kids in his league out in central Oregon.
    Could be one of those hidden gem type athletes we’ve been hoping for

  90. Eddie Freauff visit appears to be going well. Dad posted that corvallis is special and program is building strong. Sounds like the 2 remaining targets are good to go for the next signing period.

  91. BWB at Oregon 4pm on PAC-12 network

    Didn’t realize USC won at Stanford Friday night with a 51 point performance by one of their gals. Damn

  92. WBB playing with fire on the road against the Quacks. Were up 13 in the 2nd quarter. Now only lead 41-39 heading into the 4th. Need to avoid this loss. Oregon is way down this season.

  93. tough next couple of weeks for the ladies. All ranked opponents. At Colorado and Utah, then UCLA and USC at home. 3-1 in those games would be ideal. Need to split with the mountain schools and sweep the LA schools at home. Thought I read UCLA lost their star player to a knee injury and USC just beat Stanford in Palo Alto on Friday. None of these games will be easy.

    Don’t usually follow much womens hoops but they are a lot easier to watch than the shitshow on the mens side.

  94. It’s amazing how you can watch like 2 min of the women’s team and see legitimate plays being ran. Screens. Great passing and creating assists for each other. Then you watch the men’s team and they have 5 assists in the entire game. WT should watch a few of the women’s games.

  95. were the Beavs picked to win the Pac-12 at media days? I never saw anything other than the interviews. D1 baseball picked the Beavs to win the conference

    • Don’t recall the media days but every publication has the Beavs ranked the highest P12 to start the season so unless there’s home cooking involved, they should’ve been. P12 could be very competitive again this year but I believe most publications only have 3 of them to start in top 25. Beavs, Stanford and Yucks are the 3 I typically see. Might even be a few that left the Yucks out of the top 25 leaving mostly Beavs and Tree.

    • Yeah, that ship sailed at least a week ago when the Beavs announced their ST coordinator. Interesting he went to Seahawks when there were some people reporting him to San Diego and perhaps even 1 other team as well..not the Seahawks.

      • Yeah, I knew the ship had sailed, just thought it was interesting. Jay coached with MacDonald at Michigan so the connection is there. The Chargers already had one of the best ST coaches in the NFL so it is a surprise that John stuck with him.

      • Which is why the offer would have included more responsibility with a title like AHC. Can’t justify paying a ST coach that much. Jay was a S coach last year, btw. But same difference.

        If he did land here, my full expectation would be that he would be gone in a couple years.

    • I’d expect a lot of UDFA but seems unlikely to have too many actually drafted. Although, Gould did get the invite to the combine right? Between his punt return in Senior Bowl and potential to show his speed in the combine, he might get himself a late round flyer as well.

  96. Sean Mannions playing days are over. Took a job with Green Bay coaching. Doesn’t say his exact title in the article I read but said he will be working with QBs.

  97. UW 6’3″ TE Curvas enters transfer portal, I don’t think he’d want to move to OSU with its lack if a conference, but curious if anyone thinks Bray and staff might pursue him?

      • While I’m sure they’d love to grab a TE, I’m curious just how hard they’re going after one. While Gundy didn’t outright say the TE wouldn’t be involved, the offense definitely won’t be nearly as involved with 2 TE sets, etc. Ideally, you’d want a TE with several years left as I think we have some decent talent still despite losing Velling. Would’ve been fun to see Velling stay and see how he could thrive in the new scheme where it would seem to highlight his route and pass catching skillet more than being a blocking TE first.

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      I love how many people are acting like the PAC2 are the ones being unreasonable. They really believed we’d just tuck our tails between our legs.

    • From the no shit Sherlock files…..

      “I think they’re probably going to try to create a system that works for them, which might not work for everyone else.”

      Some of us already saw this coming. And you didn’t have to be Nostradamus.

    • If they are considered employees because they receive scholarships to play a sport, they should have to pay income tax on the value of the scholarship including tuition, room, board, books, and anything else that it covers just like the rest of us. Guess who is working on his income taxes right now.

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        For fucks sake don’t simp for the federal government.

        If they can get out of paying taxes then good for them, every one of us should pay as little taxes as possible.

          • That’s not how it works.

            We funnel debt to overseas interests, and the banksters here make money off the interest and return the principle plus a gated return.

            A big part of our national debt is basically us being a credit card for other countries. As long as they keep paying the monthly minimum, our debt looks solid. So if we lose one or some of those payments–due to something like a war of aggression–that will create instability in our markets.

          • lol… your hair is on fire, because an abjectly stupid trust-fund brat wants that dysfunction to scare the feeble-minded into having their hair on fire.

            If you insist on trying to weirdly turn illegal into a subject, 15k doesn’t come close to that number, given inanimate objects would also qualify. You’ll also have to go after the ports, especially the privately controlled ones.

    • Unless I’m mistaken, Ivy league schools don’t offer athletic scholarships. I wonder what type of compensation is being referred to in this case

      • They primarily help with room, books and food. This would’ve been consistent with my brief recruiting experience out of high school to places like Willamette. Not pay for school but give you food and books. Not sure how this equates differently when considering the scholarships kids receive other places. Perhaps there’s some sort of clause in that paperwork that makes the employment aspect of it harder to implement vs what the Ivy League does. Definitely interesting to see what ramifications this has moving forward.

    • Dartmouth, well known for turning out real blue collar, working class, man on the street types. I hope their trust funds don’t dry up before they are able to form their union

    • So many new parts between coaches and players. We should start to see what the offense will looks like a week in. With everything going on and so many positions up for grabs should be exciting.

    • Hopefully just occasionally or last 20 minutes kind of thing. As much as I like getting better practice reports it’s foolish to think teams don’t steal plays and signals. Spring might be more open than fall or weekly prep.

  98. I may be a biased Beaver, but I can get behind a coach who says stuff like this:

    “With the talent we have and the schedule we’re going to put together, we have a real opportunity to make an at-large bid in the College Football Playoff,” Bray told his team. “If we win 11, 12 games — which we can do — that’s a reality. I’m excited about things because we have a real, tangible path to get to where we want to go. We have an opportunity to go where this program has never been.”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/trent-bray-brings-hope-and-optimism-as-oregon-state-football-charts-new-course/ar-BB1hS0ga

    • That’s how I always felt about it. Got chastised on Reddit for saying JS will have a harder time making the playoffs with the Spartans than he would have if he stayed with the Beavs. We got talent but last season it seemed like we didn’t get much out of it. Hopefully this new staff can get them going especially QB play

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      “I’ve got no desire to be USC and Oregon and flip a roster every single year,” Bray said. “I want this place to continue to be a place of development and substance and be about taking high school guys. I think that’s what’s going to separate us. And we know, too, we’re going to develop a guy into an all-conference player, All-American and USC is going to come poaching. But we’re hoping that next guy will be ready then because we’ve developed him. And so that’s how we’re going to be unique and differentiate ourselves from the other schools in this area.”

      And:

      ““I just couldn’t get on the plane,” Bray said. “I felt for the players in our locker room and the players that I’ve recruited and sat in their living rooms and told them why this place was so great. It didn’t feel right to leave them. I had a responsibility to this place that has taken such good care of me. Between playing and coaching, I’ve probably been here around 15 to 16 years of my life. I love the community. My quality of life here is great. Why would I leave? We have a great opportunity in front of us and we have the potential to do some great things.”

      With all of the b.s. associated with college sports, people Bray and Rueck make me continue to follow some college sports. Hell, i’ll have to go to a few football games next year …i enjoyed the new Reser and with a functioning sound system and a hungry team of Rogue Beavers, college football should be fun. I respect a guy like Bray who believes in and practices reciprocity.

    • …the defense will look largely the same, even though he won’t be directing it any more (Bray plans to take on more of a CEO role and will not call plays).

      CEO……with his background and attitude that seems like a positive. A big positive, he knows what a HC needs to do.

      Martinez sez:
      “… he just wants to bring more of a dawg mentality to the team, because everyone who knows Bray knows he’s all about that,”

    • “What I hope jumps off to the film and when people watch us is how hard and physical we play,” Bray said. “The effort that’s given and the physicality on both sides of the ball. Those are the two big things, because that’s unique in college football. There’s a lot of finesse in college football. That will be a separator for us.”

  99. Man, if Turley can avoid a major slump like last season, he’s going to have a monster year. Dude hit 14hr and 46 rbi in 44 games. Considering he really struggled for about a 2 month period, for him to still do those #’s is crazy. Ready for Surprise! Beer, baseball and sunshine.

  100. Have you guys heard of gray moving inside? I think that sucks because there’s a pretty big drop off after him. He deserves to if that’s why he came back but I don’t think it’s going to help his draft stock much. Tackle is the harder position and plenty of guys switch in the nfl with no experience. There’s even talk that Fuaga might start out at guard. I personally don’t have any trust in any of the other tackles so far and was hoping to see another transfer added.

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